Miyamoto Decides When Nintendo Releases Next Console

[Quadtrix]

I don't know what it is about Miyamoto, but when you see that smiling face, you can't help but like the guy. He's just such a lively person.

 

[StriderShinryu]

At least this time he's telling the truth and not saying it's up to several developers. There is only one developer that sells well on the Wii and only one with enough pull to cause them to alter their current course, and that's Nintendo themselves.

 

[duchaked]

'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,'

ha ha ha

...but anyway, maybe in the next generation I can finally return to playing the game series I grew up with
assuming they hadn't already been milked to death (or I could buy an NES now)

I do still have the N64 and GameCube...hmm bbl

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

I got a Wii a couple months back and I think I played it for maybe the first week and a half. I hardly ever play it anymore. The motion controls just get in the way for me. When I do play, I plug in a gamecube controller. I'll stick to my xbox. But I'm still not that excited for Eye T- I mean Natal.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

I am not a member of the Sony Defense Force, I am not a PS3 fanboy. I'm a Final Fantasy tard, get it right. And I do have plenty of issues with the endless amount of generic first person shooters that get cranked out on consoles, which I made a thread about not long ago that was roundly ignored for having too many words.

Wait a minute... didn't you JUST say that the PS3 and 360 are bringing all the good games to the market? In fact, yes, you did. Here's the quote right now:

And yet XBox and PS3 are the ones bringing the good games to market.

Then you say that you're sick of all the generic shooters that are being turned out? News Flash: The large majority of popular games on the 360/PS3 are shooters. Gears of War? Borderlands? Modern Warfare? Halo? Mass Effect? Yeah sure they slip-in the occasional God of War for some variety, but then we have a whole other legion of clones for THAT style of gameplay. Not to mention that many of those are also available on the PC where they can be played with better controls, but let's not open-up THAT debate... the point is, they're available on yet another platform, leaving only a scant few titles that can actually be attributed to any given system.

The Wii might have a smaller library of (worthwhile) games, but at the same time it has a larger variety of types of games because it isn't just a bunch of FPS's and God of War clones. Your Marios play nothing like your Zeldas, then the occasional gem like No More Heroes comes along that can only be described by saying "Play it to find out" without going into a lengthy description of the game.

So does the Wii have fewer games? Perhaps. But where else are you going to GET the Wii's good games?*

*Edit: Okay okay, so they're working on bringing No More Heroes to the 360 (and I think PS3), but it's only been what? 2 years? Mind you that the Wii has the sequel now. Not to mention that to make it work with a regular controller, it'll probably lose a lot of what made it stand-out since the game makes heavy use of the motion control. It'll be a diluted experience, at best.

 

[Flight]

I'm glad the Wii won't be going away for awhile. Even if some of the concepts are poorly-executed (or else not brought up to their full potential) in some of the games, I find it to be quite an enjoyable system... and I say that as a person who also enjoys the XBox 360 and the PS3. (Console War? What's that? )

 

[DRADIS C0ntact]

Surely the next innovation in games consoles would be something that doesn't need to be replaced in five years? Something that is more similar to a PC...like a PC. The 360 and I'm led to believe PS3 allowed you to upgrade your console without buying a completely new machine, although that was limited to the harddrive. But what if the next step in consoles is to step back towards PCs and allow people to upgrade certain parts in the future. They wouldn't make as much money selling consoles but they could get it back from selling the parts. It would be like the HDDVD player for the 360 only less redundant.

Unless the next generation of consoles have something even more spectacular to offer then I don't know whether I will bother to get one until the prices inevitably drop to half of the release price within two or three years.

I don't think we're going to see that happen. One of the biggest perks of choosing consoles over PC is the ease of entry. You just hook up the console, insert the game, and you're playing. You don't have to worry about interchangeable parts or upgrades. Yeah we can upgrade hard drives currently, but it's really not needed unless you're big into DLC.

The problem with fully upgradable consoles is that it adds unnecessary complexity to both devs and gamers. Developers will have to make sure their games work across all possible hardware configurations. Average Joe gamer who doesn't want to mess with upgrades may be forced to go out and buy a new video card or memory in order to get a better frame rate on newly released games.

I mean essentially, these wouldn't be consoles anymore. There would be nothing differentiating them from PC's except for less functionality and the lack of a keyboard and mouse. I don't think that would make console gamers happy.

 

[internetzealot1]

In Miyamoto we trust.
EDIT: Hmmm...after looking at some of the posts on this thread, I would like to interject that any Nintendo console is worth buying solely for any Nintendo-developed games that it will recieve.

 

[Xanthious]

I simply have too many problems with the Wii that need to be fixed before I even think of buying a Nintendo console outside of the DS. I can't get over the fact that the Wii is a Gamecube with badly done gimmicky controls and no decent third party support. That's not to say Mario Ass Wiping 36 won't be a good game but more to say that it's just more of the same thing we've been seeing since the N64 days.

For all my issues with the Wii I can't fault Nintendo for going after casual and under 12 crowd. It's working out for them and probably kept them from going the way of Sega in all likelihood. In the future though I would really like to see Nintendo show the actual gamers that put them on the map a little bit of love is all instead of pushing us to the side to concentrate on the lowest common denominator.

 

[Nurb]

New ideas...? NINTENDO?

New ways to milk all of their creations maybe

 

[SMOKEMNHALO2001]

I knew that Miyamoto was secretly God.

It was a secret? I thought everybody knew!

No no he's Jesus, Morgan Freeman is God, everybody knows that.

 

[Silva]

I hope someone gave Reggie a high-five after that one.

Nope, no bias here.

I actually agree that this is bias, but more because it followed a statement that they were "presumably" referring to the Playstation Move. When there's evidence of that, it can be said without bias. Until then, it's a theory based on nothing but emotion. And the emotion this theory reveals is a very pro-Nintendo one.

However, this bias isn't necessarily harmful. Goldman's not doing any damage by agreeing with "Reggie" here.

 

[Dragon_of_red]

I just had this video going threough my head while reading this

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Just replace the angry yelling guy with Miyamoto and i find it funny.

Yeah, i dont see the point in getting a wii 2 if there is going to be one... since i cant really see how they could improve it much other than graphics, but i dont care about that.

 

[persona J]

i think they probably have enough money to beat the competators in the next gen anyway so why bother doing it now.

 

[Ryank1908]

"Competitors" might have been the wrong word for Reggie to use there. I don't know if I'm the only one but I currently don't see Nintendo as anything like Microsoft or Sony in regards to consoles.

Nintendo are not really in the console race, because they've made an entertainment system which is completely different to the norm, thus they're not really 'competing' anymore. I sure as hell wouldn't go to Nintendo for a traditional console game nowadays.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Anyone who says motion control doesn't work needs to play metroid prime 3. Then go back to "generic space marine and/or military shooter 7" and see how much gamepad fps controls suck compared to wiimote aiming.

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that mario galaxy does.

That said the ps3 slim is very tight and it is on my list to buy sometime now that I have an HD tv.

Nintendo just had the most brilliant marketing and release strategy this gen. And the fanbois collectively have that vein throbbing on their forehead when they think about it.

I think you're confusing brilliance with astronomical luck and Metroid Prime 3 with Metroid Prime 1 which was an infinitely better because it had no wii-mote and no emotions being spoonfed to a mute protagonist.

Every single aspect of the Wii launch was planned out beforehand. Exactly what do you attribute to luck?

1. no hi def to lower the console price
2. proven manufacturing process so they could scale up easily with demand - ps3 failed on that point (not that there was any demand until the price dropped)
4. proven technology so the customers weren't beta testers (xbox 50% fail rate)
5. Wii Sports was not only a great tech demo but actually FUN. It showed off the capabilities and the potential. And it was a great sales tool. Nintendo knew they had the fanbois and the people who will buy just about anything. But the early adopters friends and family played a game of bowling or two and even if they never owned a console in their lives they went out and bought one.
6. sold at a profit from day 1

I'll just have to disagree with you on MP3 vs 1 because I played both and think the motion controls only added to the experience. Particularly if you never used lockon fire and had to aim 100% of the time.

And I can name hundreds of games that are better and invoke far more joy than SMG, though it was a good game. But I'm not gonna do it, because I'm tired and I don't feel the need to try and impress people.

Hundreds is a colossal exaggeration. There are hundreds of games, yet you don't even list one. How about 5 system exclusives on either hd system? The only one I saw for PS3 that had potential was Ratchet and Clank. The funny thing is for the 360 has several XBLA games that could do it. But I don't know of any disk games that aren't also cross platform and ported to the PC.

 

[almostgold]

New ideas...? NINTENDO?

Did you really just say Nintendo doesn't have many new ideas? What about the entire concept of the Wii? Or the DS? Whether or not you like those ideas is different entirely, but to claim they're not bringing new ideas out there?

 

[Delusibeta]

Anyone who says motion control doesn't work needs to play on a PC. Then go back to "generic space marine and/or military shooter 7 360" and see how much gamepad fps controls suck compared to mouse and WASD.

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that *insert any good PC indie game here, (for example: World Of Goo, Audiosurf) or Team Fortress 2* does.

That said the ps3 slim is very tight and it is on my list to buy sometime now that I have an HD monitor.

Valve just had the most brilliant distribution and release strategy ever. And the fanbois collectively have that vein throbbing on their forehead when they think about it.

And now it's a PC fanboy post.

Although, you have to admit the mouse is superior to the right thumb stick.

 

[Mr.PlanetEater]

And I challenge anyone to name a game for either hd system that provides the same level of joy that mario galaxy does.

Braid
Castle Crashers
Half-Life 2 episode 2
Fallout 3
Alien Hominid HD
Portal
Is that enough or do I need to go on until you snap out of your Nintendo in the 90's dream. :/
I love Nintendo and all but it annoys the heck out of me when people ***** about one console or another.

 

[Stabby Joe]

The way the title was worded made me think of a spoiled child going "I GET TO DECIDE! ONLY I DO!"

Well, Miyamoto did save the company and make it one of the top 3 of our time near single-handedly with his ideas. So no wonder Nintendo worship- sorry, allow Miyamoto to pull much of the strings.

I'm not questioning his worth, it's what the title made me think at first.