Miyamoto Unimpressed by Modern Games
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Make new IPs god damn it! Do Miayamoto and Nintendo really not get how releasing the same five IPs for the last twenty years might make it difficult to surprise gamers? I mean last original game they released was Pikmin over decade ago now and coincidentally was the last Nintendo game I actually really enjoyed playing.
That is not even how my eyes view the world as my eyes allow me to focus on objects I want to view. 3D just shoves everything in your face making it very hard to focus my eyes on what I want to see thus straining my eyes.
Well at least my "unusual" 2D TV does not give me headaches within seconds of looking at the screen.
That is not even how my eyes view the world as my eyes allow me to focus on objects I want to view. 3D just shoves everything in your face making it very hard to focus my eyes on what I want to see thus straining my eyes.
Or, at the very least, make a Metroid that doesn't suck.DVS BSTrD said:
Or rerelease a HD version of fricken Final Fantasy VI!
OK, so you said he shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses because there are pleny of awesome games that aren't made by Nintendo. That statement right there indicated that you were talking about quality, which was not what Miyamoto was talking about. If I got this wrong then I'm sorry.PurePareidolia said:
As for Nintendo releasing the same title over and over. Well, I got nothing. Super Mario Galaxy was kinda original since it offered a lot to the series. New Super Mario Bros. offered a new Super Mario Bros. Zelda offered a new Zelda. The 3DS offers a great deal of ports with minor changes from the original games. So surprise isn't any element I relate to Nintendo right now.
Also if you think the rest of my post was regarded to you and intended as praise for Miyamoto you were dead wrong. I was saying that Myamoto is blinded by nostalgia and thus got a wrong impression. He's like those who wish those who wish they could live in the 70's or the medieval. He looks back with rose tinted glasses and fails to see progress, he fails to see what has become better. If that sounds like a compliment to you then I'll take it back and just call him an idiot, does that sound fair?
Good lord. The amount negativity in this, over an entirely justified opinion. The last truly good game I played was in 2005 with Shadow of the Colossus. Whether you agree with me or not, I think there's certainly a criteria to be allowed an opinion along those lines.
Forgive me for liking an era where developers could try new things, where frat-boy gaming hadn't wilted the landscape of creativity, where a gamer could modify their games and platforms without being put on a virtual leash, where dynamic design was the rule, rather than the exception.
Forgive me for liking an era where developers could try new things, where frat-boy gaming hadn't wilted the landscape of creativity, where a gamer could modify their games and platforms without being put on a virtual leash, where dynamic design was the rule, rather than the exception.
A better title for this article would be "Miyamoto too busy to play many games and dislikes aspects of the current market compared to the way it was a few decades ago." Although I guess "Shigeru Miyamoto is dissing that thing you like!" gets more page views.
While his opinion is certainly something valid to have, there still seem to be some issues with this (keep in mind I'm adressing the points in this article, not the original interview). For example, this statement:
Also, I've never understood this mentality of "Things were better when they were simpler" Sure they may have made us feel good, but how long could that have kept up before we got bored? At least with increasing standards matched with an increase in development we get games that far surpass what we could've imagined and make us want more. I'd say it's a healthy development, sparking companies to try and impress us net and to therefore see who can stay and who may need to go to the sidelines.
What I find funny about it though is that for someone who says they aren't surprised by most modern games now they sure seem to like only playing games that they developed, in other words games that could surprise him the least especially if he knows all the intricacies that went behind making it.
Also, I won't get into too much since other people said it as well, but yes, the 3D that Miyamato is talking about isn't the same way we view life as 3D. After all, I don't get headaches after 2 and a half hours when looking at real life in 3D.
While I will say that sometimes I don't know which game to get and what to avoid, I don't think this is an issue of games today but rather the means to which we are aware of them. For example, most of the stuff I have on my iPhone game wise was all stuff that wasn't easy to find through the main app store, but rather found through suggestions by others. But again, it seems much like how Miyamato is sometimes nostalgic for his games, he seems also nostalgic in how he remembers buying games. If it weren't for the fact that anyone can head online and check a forum or videos to see if the game they want to get is any good, he may have had a point there, but here I'd say Miyamato is probably wrong on this point.
Also, I've never understood this mentality of "Things were better when they were simpler" Sure they may have made us feel good, but how long could that have kept up before we got bored? At least with increasing standards matched with an increase in development we get games that far surpass what we could've imagined and make us want more. I'd say it's a healthy development, sparking companies to try and impress us net and to therefore see who can stay and who may need to go to the sidelines.
What I find funny about it though is that for someone who says they aren't surprised by most modern games now they sure seem to like only playing games that they developed, in other words games that could surprise him the least especially if he knows all the intricacies that went behind making it.
Also, I won't get into too much since other people said it as well, but yes, the 3D that Miyamato is talking about isn't the same way we view life as 3D. After all, I don't get headaches after 2 and a half hours when looking at real life in 3D.
Miyamoto...just retire. There I said it, get away from gaming, take some time off, if it strikes you, PLAY some new games, start to finish. And then come back stronger than before.
He's correct in one thing, when you work in the games industry there's very little time to yourself to indulge in other games. You immerse yourself entirely in whatever the project is at the time.
But seriously. Enough of this whining. If you're in a rut this exactly the mindset that takes hold 'BACK IN MAH DAY'. No, back in your day, rose tinted glasses are extra thick. So get out of projects and corporations and live for a bit again.
Does wonders.
He's correct in one thing, when you work in the games industry there's very little time to yourself to indulge in other games. You immerse yourself entirely in whatever the project is at the time.
But seriously. Enough of this whining. If you're in a rut this exactly the mindset that takes hold 'BACK IN MAH DAY'. No, back in your day, rose tinted glasses are extra thick. So get out of projects and corporations and live for a bit again.
Does wonders.
That's fair, I wasn't all that specific with the glass houses comment, but I did mean I in terms of surprisingness and being "worth my time", which I guess is kind of a quality bar in and of itself. On the other hand it might not be fair for me to say I know plenty of surprising original games when I don't play every game (or even most games) that comes out from time to time.Yopaz said:
in any case my follow up post was only to clarify my original intent, not to presume anything about your position on the matter.
