Miyamoto Unimpressed by Modern Games
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It's funny seeing people going after those who don't share Miyamoto's opinion. It's almost as if you're only allowed to have an opinion if it's the "right" opinion or something.
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I really think whoever wrote this title should slap themselves. Nowhere in this article does it say he isn't impressed with modern gaming. He talks about not having time to play games and how innovating is more difficult for the new playerbase, but he never goes and says he's unimpressed. Don't try to draw attention to your article with flashy or pointed titles if they are a blatant lie.
What's worse is the Miyamoto flaming going on now because your title makes him sound like an ass (which was my impression too prior to reading the article).
On topic I think that he's got the right idea, we are harder to please as modern gamers when it comes to certain genre. What baffles me though is how millions of people worldwide still find appeal for the same old formula when it comes to certain games, looking at you CoD and Battlefield, but then also expect innovation from other titles and get angry when there is none. Seems almost hypocritical on our part.
What's worse is the Miyamoto flaming going on now because your title makes him sound like an ass (which was my impression too prior to reading the article).
On topic I think that he's got the right idea, we are harder to please as modern gamers when it comes to certain genre. What baffles me though is how millions of people worldwide still find appeal for the same old formula when it comes to certain games, looking at you CoD and Battlefield, but then also expect innovation from other titles and get angry when there is none. Seems almost hypocritical on our part.
Step 1: remake the same few games over and over.
Step 2: say all video games are samey and uninteresting.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: everyone thinks your an idiot.
Step 2: say all video games are samey and uninteresting.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: everyone thinks your an idiot.
Yeah, EyeToy was pretty cool. Oh, you were talking about the Wii? Yeah. Totally surprising and original. Good quality games, too! Definitely not half a dozen shit mini-games.John Funk said:
Hmm... It appears that most people who responded to this have a very base understanding of the article and the company. Understandable. Most of the people on this site are either Sony or Microsoft fans or part of the PC gamer "master race", anyway. It is easy only to pay attention to Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, and Pokemon when one only has basic knowledge of Nintendo. Of course, Nintendo has also made Pikmin, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Warioware, Rhythm Heaven, Beat Agents, Mother, Custom Robo, Golden Sun, Shinning Force, and so much more. It is okay not to like Nintendo games, but it is fallicious to state that they have not created new ideas since the 90s.
I'm getting the impression that a few people in this thread are missing the spirit of the original article and Miyamoto's idea of captivation. For better or worse, over the years Nintendo has put themselves in make or break situations of experimentation, and God bless them for it.
For every headache inducing neck pain creator (Virtual Boy), we get something that changes an entire landscape like the DS. We may complain about the reiterations of IPs, but staples like Mario and Zelda always seem to be the required software to make people take the plunge into their experiments. The 3DS didn't pick up steam until there was an Oot 3D and Mario Land, titles that many consider "just what the 3DS needed".
In today's gaming landscape, where consoles and video cards are a technological arms race that sacrifice originality and experimentation to offset skyrocketing development costs, I for one am glad to see Miyamoto and Nintendo take bold steps in completely different directions. I can understand how over time Mario and Zelda become the safety net to guarantee a minimal adoption of these new experiments.
IMHO, if Nintendo would only open their doors more to 3rd parties with IPs of their own (from dev teams that require far less money for Nintendo platforms than the alternative), letting them in on the experimental fun, great things can come from that.
TL;DR, "Modern Gamers" have been developing their own standards of what a "forward-thinking" and "next-gen" game experience is, and Miyamoto seems intent on completely redefining how we interact with our beloved boxes from scratch. If Mario and Zelda 391 and 272 (respectively) supply them with the funds to continue taking stabs at it, they may just offer us the holy grail after enough time. I for one am thankful that they're the last company trying that direction in terms of growth.
For every headache inducing neck pain creator (Virtual Boy), we get something that changes an entire landscape like the DS. We may complain about the reiterations of IPs, but staples like Mario and Zelda always seem to be the required software to make people take the plunge into their experiments. The 3DS didn't pick up steam until there was an Oot 3D and Mario Land, titles that many consider "just what the 3DS needed".
In today's gaming landscape, where consoles and video cards are a technological arms race that sacrifice originality and experimentation to offset skyrocketing development costs, I for one am glad to see Miyamoto and Nintendo take bold steps in completely different directions. I can understand how over time Mario and Zelda become the safety net to guarantee a minimal adoption of these new experiments.
IMHO, if Nintendo would only open their doors more to 3rd parties with IPs of their own (from dev teams that require far less money for Nintendo platforms than the alternative), letting them in on the experimental fun, great things can come from that.
TL;DR, "Modern Gamers" have been developing their own standards of what a "forward-thinking" and "next-gen" game experience is, and Miyamoto seems intent on completely redefining how we interact with our beloved boxes from scratch. If Mario and Zelda 391 and 272 (respectively) supply them with the funds to continue taking stabs at it, they may just offer us the holy grail after enough time. I for one am thankful that they're the last company trying that direction in terms of growth.
I like how you started off by insulting everyone in the thread. How very awesome of you. I doubt you've been here long if you think that most people here are only fans of the big 3 and PC elitist. You'll learn.Vanilla_Druid said:
Anyways back to your point, it's very easy to pay attention to the big franchises you mentioned because that's all Nintendo advertises.
But you have to admit Pikmin 2 came out almost 10 years ago..T
he last Kirby game to come out was a disappointment that held the player's hand all the way through (seriously you couldn't die for crying out loud)
Fire Emblem is only popular outside thanks to Japan because of Smash Bros Melee and even then most of the series is Japan Only,WarioWare is a pile of minigames
Rhythm Heaven is a very niche title that wasn't advertised much outside Japan
Elite Beat Agents was good but again, niche as hell and didn't sell as well as expected
Mother.....did you see how the handled Mother? Nuff said
Custom Robo was good but again, lack of advertising in favour of sure sellers
With Golden Sun it took almost 10 years for them to make a sequel that wasn't that great
Shining Force is an old Sega Franchise that's seen a lot more than just Nintendo's consoles
Even out of all the big franchises that you listed, Nintendo has goofed on the latest Metroid by letting Team Ninja make the crappy Other:M, and we've yet to see a StarFox sequel worth our time. And this is coming from a fan of StarFox Assault...
It's really become about Pokemon, Mario, and LoZ and with a growing population of people who are getting tired of LoZ being almost literally the same story retold over and over, Nintendo's IPs are no longer indefensible to being called stale.
Almost every time someone argues that people's negative opinions on Nintendo aren't warranted it's really just the same argument. "You can't have a negative opinion of Nintendo."
Damn it yes we can. We can also agree to disagree. People have gotten away with bashing Sony and MS since they entered the console race but there's still a large antsy group of people who jump to shield Nintendo at almost every chance they can. Thankfully less people are wearing their nostalgia glasses these days.
That was kind of his point. Between being one of the most recognizable names in game development and publishing and generating the next big thing the world wants to mimic (for good or ill), he doesn't have the time to spend on all the games. A guy with the stance that innovation is better when it can happen probably isn't lining up to play a hoard of games in the standard fantasy setting.hurricanejbb said:
Am I just being thick or does the title seem out-of-sync with the text of the article? I was fully expecting commentary that Miyamoto was harshly criticizing modern games, but the text of the article, at least to me, doesn't read that way at all. Instead, it reads more like he's simply stating there are challenges ahead for modern games in maintaining the interest of gamers. Yet another sensational title designed to get page views, or did I just misread everything?
ADDENDUM: Looking over these comments, how many of you actually read the article before commenting, instead of just assuming the text based on the title? How many of you were able to actually think independently of the sensationalized title and not let it color your interpretation and comprehension of the article text? Did I simply read different article text from the vast majority commenting here?
ADDENDUM: Looking over these comments, how many of you actually read the article before commenting, instead of just assuming the text based on the title? How many of you were able to actually think independently of the sensationalized title and not let it color your interpretation and comprehension of the article text? Did I simply read different article text from the vast majority commenting here?