Miyamoto Unimpressed by Modern Games

[Cobbs]

Here's a way to surprise players Mr. Miyamoto. Why don't YOU come up with a NEW original IP?

^This

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Hmm... It appears that most people who responded to this have a very base understanding of the article and the company. Understandable. Most of the people on this site are either Sony or Microsoft fans or part of the PC gamer "master race", anyway. It is easy only to pay attention to Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, and Pokemon when one only has basic knowledge of Nintendo. Of course, Nintendo has also made Pikmin, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Warioware, Rhythm Heaven, Beat Agents, Mother, Custom Robo, Golden Sun, Shinning Force, and so much more. It is okay not to like Nintendo games, but it is fallicious to state that they have not created new ideas since the 90s.

I like how you started off by insulting everyone in the thread. How very awesome of you. I doubt you've been here long if you think that most people here are only fans of the big 3 and PC elitist. You'll learn.

Anyways back to your point, it's very easy to pay attention to the big franchises you mentioned because that's all Nintendo advertises.

But you have to admit Pikmin 2 came out almost 10 years ago..T
he last Kirby game to come out was a disappointment that held the player's hand all the way through (seriously you couldn't die for crying out loud)
Fire Emblem is only popular outside thanks to Japan because of Smash Bros Melee and even then most of the series is Japan Only,WarioWare is a pile of minigames
Rhythm Heaven is a very niche title that wasn't advertised much outside Japan
Elite Beat Agents was good but again, niche as hell and didn't sell as well as expected
Mother.....did you see how the handled Mother? Nuff said
Custom Robo was good but again, lack of advertising in favour of sure sellers
With Golden Sun it took almost 10 years for them to make a sequel that wasn't that great
Shining Force is an old Sega Franchise that's seen a lot more than just Nintendo's consoles

Even out of all the big franchises that you listed, Nintendo has goofed on the latest Metroid by letting Team Ninja make the crappy Other:M, and we've yet to see a StarFox sequel worth our time. And this is coming from a fan of StarFox Assault...

It's really become about Pokemon, Mario, and LoZ and with a growing population of people who are getting tired of LoZ being almost literally the same story retold over and over, Nintendo's IPs are no longer indefensible to being called stale.

Almost every time someone argues that people's negative opinions on Nintendo aren't warranted it's really just the same argument. "You can't have a negative opinion of Nintendo."

Damn it yes we can. We can also agree to disagree. People have gotten away with bashing Sony and MS since they entered the console race but there's still a large antsy group of people who jump to shield Nintendo at almost every chance they can. Thankfully less people are wearing their nostalgia glasses these days.

So, you conclude that people who still defend Nintendo are wearing Nostalgia glasses?

Seems legit and totally smart.

So you skimmed through my point just to make a silly memebase style response? Seems like a waste of time

 

[Brett Bowling]

That dosn't sound like he's unimpressed, it sounds like he is unimpressed with his schedule.
It sounds like he wouldn't play games at all if it wasn't his job.
If his games are the only ones he plays then it sounds like he does only because that what he's paid to do. Saying it like that kind makes it sound like he be bitter about it.
That explains the 3DS price drop, it was him getting revenge on the fans that force him to keep making games. "Oh what you thought you were getting Paper Mario 3 and Luigi's Mansion 2 as launch titles hah fat chance you weenies oh yeah and thanks for letting us rip you off $80, oh what you getting sad well how about this, we'll reinburse you with 20 extremly bad emulations of games you have already played whose value dosn't even come close to $80"
I guess Nintendo fans like me deserve it since I had been wanting Pikmin 3. Now thanks to my greed he has to spend all his time making that instead of playing the games he always wanted to try out like Arkham Asylum and Darksiders.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

All this hate is really just depressing...
Way too much hate on this site these days.

For one thing i always though that the leading people behind Nintendo were the ones shitting out Mario games all the time because as far as i know Miyamoto hasn't been actively involved in the making of every Nintendo game ever.

Stroke out 3 paragraphs of useless text just here.

Because as i've been writing this out i've come to think that perhaps Nintendo's current desire for technological evolution is misplaced in the world of gaming and would be better suited for something else, because gaming evolved to the current controller and everyone's fine with that, you can take on fantastic experiences with the regular buttons controller if the game has good writing and flow of gameplay.

I mean it's not like every medium has to change its way of conveying story because books are done with simple paper and print and if they're just well told they can make the most gripping stories you can imagine.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I Agree with Miyamoto - AAA Titles
I Disagree with Miyamoto - Indie Titles

Finished Legend of Grimrock. That was genuinely fun.
Finished Mass Effect 3 (rather, I watched my friend finish it after grinding with retards online for about 3 hours). That was genuinely cliche and shit.

But I find this especially ironic coming from the man whose entire career has been based on milking the same concept for 20+ years. The last genuinely interesting original work he made was Pikmin, roughly 10 years ago.

Stereoscopic vision might be natural to us, but the resolution of the effect for our eyes is 300 times better than what the 3DS can emulate, AND it doesn't have a fixed depth.
Drop the 3D fad Miyamoto. Just let it go.

 

[Electrogecko]

Here's a way to surprise players Mr. Miyamoto. Why don't YOU come up with a new original IP?

Actually, the original article does touch on Miyamoto talking about opportunities to create new IPs. Though you have to find it incredible that Mario has survived so long with core games that are still generally accepted as good/maybe even great, when other iconic characters such as Sonic and Megaman have been pulled through the dirt by their respective companies. And that's totally discounting IPs like Crash Bandicoot, who went from strong competition to bargain bin garbage, or Spyro, who is only around in name-only as a ridiculous cash-in.

And it also ignores that Nintendo has managed to keep Zelda as a strong, reliable franchise even when they attempt some new frontiers in terms of visual style and control scheme. It's only really the DS games that really fell on their face, since Twilight Princess is by no means bad. Skyward Sword has its issues, but it at least is a little more successful as a core motion controlled game than its competitors.

"I am not that concerned, actually. Nintendo and I have always hoped that games would someday become a more accepted part of our daily life. Every month this becomes closer to the reality we live in.

"Games have grown and developed from this limited in-the-box experience to something that's everywhere now. Interactive content is all around us, networked, ready. This is something I've been hoping for throughout my career.

"With this success comes a new challenge of course: how do we make our titles relevant in this world of games. How do we keep going when everything has changed? It's a huge challenge. But it's a good one. It's what we always wanted."

As a Japanese developer, I think Miyamoto has a healthy attitude towards the industry. Of course, he targets a different kind of audience, but he fills a niche that seems unfulfilled by any other company. Despite clinging to a small core of franchises, Nintendo has done incredible things since the days of the NES, keeping those franchises relevant and remarkably strong when other companies have failed. It's striking for a Japanese company to have that kind of ability to transform itself, when their company structure is all about conformity. Nintendo has done extremely well expanding its market, even if said market is not where people expected them to go. It was a smart move on their part not to compete with the experiences we already get from the PC, XBox 360, and PS3. After all, Miyamoto wants to "surprise" people. He's not going to do it by pumping out Setpiece Tour Shooter 2012.

I am curious as to what Miyamoto does think up next after Pikmin, Nintendogs and Wii Sports. Pikmin was just incredibly endearing and bizarre, whereas Nintendogs and Wii Sports broke ground into casual territory. With Wii Sports and Wii Fit, I actually got to connect with my non-gamer family with video games, something I could never do with my other favourite games like Skyrim or Ragnarok Online.

I'm sick of saying it myself...this is close enough.

I'm not sure if Miyamoto is the most trustworthy source for info on modern games. I love the guy and believe that he makes great games, but I doubt he's gotten around to playing Bioshock, Portal, or Skyrim.

Anyways, I'm sick of hearing (reading....whatever) all the anti-Nintendo crap around here. It's all BS.

Out of all the companies that we should be demanding a new IP from, Nintendo is one of the last on the list. Seriously, they have dozens of running franchises, many of which are in the running for greatest franchise of all time, and still they're criticized for not putting out enough original content?

I'm not saying that Nintendo is the king of innovation and creativity that some may think they are, but from the way people talk about them around here, you'd think they were the grand emperor of rehashing shitty games and milking their franchises into the ground, which is just so far from being true that it's maddening.