Dude... They broke through the fucking door and just ran over the damn guy. The only thing short of stopping a mob is tear gas and shotguns.CanadianWolverine said:I think there is some of the responsibility for this tragedy being over looked here:
The employer and managers responsible for sending those under paid, no benefits workers to 'reinforce' should be criminally charged and fired. Walmart should also be investigated to see if this is standard practice to send employees into harm's way.Five minutes before the store was to open, the horde of unruly customers shattered the door, trampled through the half-dozen Wal-Mart employees who had desperately been trying to reinforce the doomed entryway, and proceeded to shop, according to police and eyewitnesses.
Common sense should tell you that if you have a pressing mob outside your front doors, you get people away from the doors and tell the crowd to get orderly or disperse ... or there will be no shopping period, we'll just turn out the lights and walk out the back door till the cops take care of the mob. This isn't just a story about the mob of shoppers being greedy and irresponsible, its about the business being that way too.
And not only that, but apparently there were police present? Why weren't they doing their jobs and calling in the riot police, ambulance, and demanding people get orderly or disperse?
There are all kinds of hands with blood on them with things like this. I hope some people who are running businesses read this: don't even try to do business in situations like this.
Your blind Wal-Mart hatred is unfounded. It's a crappy job just like any other High School / College part time job. They all have bad pay, and they all offer little or no benefits. Get over it.CanadianWolverine said:I think there is some of the responsibility for this tragedy being over looked here:
The employer and managers responsible for sending those under paid, no benefits workers to 'reinforce' should be criminally charged and fired. Walmart should also be investigated to see if this is standard practice to send employees into harm's way.Five minutes before the store was to open, the horde of unruly customers shattered the door, trampled through the half-dozen Wal-Mart employees who had desperately been trying to reinforce the doomed entryway, and proceeded to shop, according to police and eyewitnesses.
Common sense should tell you that if you have a pressing mob outside your front doors, you get people away from the doors and tell the crowd to get orderly or disperse ... or there will be no shopping period, we'll just turn out the lights and walk out the back door till the cops take care of the mob. This isn't just a story about the mob of shoppers being greedy and irresponsible, its about the business being that way too.
And not only that, but apparently there were police present? Why weren't they doing their jobs and calling in the riot police, ambulance, and demanding people get orderly or disperse?
There are all kinds of hands with blood on them with things like this. I hope some people who are running businesses read this: don't even try to do business in situations like this.
Indeed, as leader of the cult of skaro I claim role of leader in this new program. But all ego driven jokes aside yeah we really do need such programs here in the U.S.Hunde Des Krieg said:Exactly why we need public euthenasia programs...
If they didn't stop and try and help the man, at the very least, then they deserve to get charged with manslaughter.Brokkr said:I heard that the police are going to look over the footage from the security cameras and charge a lot of the people who were responsible for this.
Right, so why was that guy in a place to be ran over in the first place? If he wasn't actually in a position to stop the mob, why was he placed there to 'reinforce' the door? Where was the department managers and general manager when this took place? On a hunch I very much doubt anything above a shift supervisor was 'reinforcing' the front doors.Rankao said:Dude... They broke through the fucking door and just ran over the damn guy. The only thing short of stopping a mob is tear gas and shotguns.
Wow, you must face a pretty bleak job market where ever you are if all your jobs are like that, especially if you have a college education to pay for during or afterwards - student debt is brutal. Not all jobs are like that, it is possible to find jobs even out of highschool that pay well and have benefits as a incentive to keep employees - I strongly suggest looking into the trades for example, I know I enjoy carpentry and hope to learn other trades that go into building and maintaining sustainable and safe homes.SuperFriendBFG said:Your blind Wal-Mart hatred is unfounded. It's a crappy job just like any other High School / College part time job. They all have bad pay, and they all offer little or no benefits. Get over it.
Oh don't worry I reported that son of a ***** I don't care if I get banned, thats not on.Ago Iterum said:Okay, yeah, a second post, I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this. What the hell is wrong with you. Funny?gerrymander61 said:Haha, funniest shit i've heard all week!
This post of yours got me so annoyed, but I plan on keeping my badge for not being banned or probationed yet. And you're not worth a banning. However, I'd be delighted to see a lifetime ban attatched to your name.
I'll sit and await my medal for not tearing the... faeces out of you verbally, and hope that others see the light and report this waste of vital organs.
Wal-Mart doesn't pay any less then flipping burgers at McDonald's. There is a job market, but for a first job Wal-Mart is actually pretty good. Anyone can get sick of these low paying jobs because yes for the total amount of work you do you are underpaid, but such is the fact of life. I worked at a grocery store as my first job, and all the bag boys were part time regardless of the hours they did. But by law over here if we do more then 36 hours a week for 3 weeks, then yeah we are forced into being full time, but there are similar laws present in the United States, and yes Wal-Mart follows those same laws.CanadianWolverine said:Right, so why was that guy in a place to be ran over in the first place? If he wasn't actually in a position to stop the mob, why was he placed there to 'reinforce' the door? Where was the department managers and general manager when this took place? On a hunch I very much doubt anything above a shift supervisor was 'reinforcing' the front doors.Rankao said:Dude... They broke through the fucking door and just ran over the damn guy. The only thing short of stopping a mob is tear gas and shotguns.
Wow, you must face a pretty bleak job market where ever you are if all your jobs are like that, especially if you have a college education to pay for during or afterwards - student debt is brutal. Not all jobs are like that, it is possible to find jobs even out of highschool that pay well and have benefits as a incentive to keep employees - I strongly suggest looking into the trades for example, I know I enjoy carpentry and hope to learn other trades that go into building and maintaining sustainable and safe homes.
And where do you get off accusing me of being blind and full of hatred towards this corporation? If a documentary (http://www.walmartmovie.com/) and the testimonies of (former?) employees of those places in this thread won't convince you of the truth of the matter, I would strongly suggest that is you who is being blind.
And don't try to paint this like I was only laying blame at the feet of Walmart, I realize full well that everyone there bears the weight of responsibility for this death; just because this Walmart places their employees in harms way doesn't mean the customers had to harm the employee and each other, or that the police had to react to a tragedy rather than prevent one. Even the employees bear some of the responsibility for not telling the employer 'Hell no' and walking off the job when the working conditions became unsafe.
Yeah, where do they get off laughing at something they find funny.CrafterMan said:Oh don't worry I reported that son of a ***** I don't care if I get banned, thats not on.Ago Iterum said:Okay, yeah, a second post, I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this. What the hell is wrong with you. Funny?gerrymander61 said:Haha, funniest shit i've heard all week!
This post of yours got me so annoyed, but I plan on keeping my badge for not being banned or probationed yet. And you're not worth a banning. However, I'd be delighted to see a lifetime ban attatched to your name.
I'll sit and await my medal for not tearing the... faeces out of you verbally, and hope that others see the light and report this waste of vital organs.
its human nature we are very much a pack/herd species the behaviour is called animal magnitism have you ever noticed when a random bird changes direction and the whole flock follows that is all it is.Ranooth said:Wow, i have no idea what to really say. How have we evolved as a species with things like this going on?