There's a difference between having a right to free speech and to defend you work and then there is making something for the sole purpose of offending everyone for no reason.
Job well done ModDB.
Job well done ModDB.
ModDB Shuts Down School Shooter Mod
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Nice to see the minute something becomes too close to the bone, people crumble and buckle to the public 'outlash'
I -really- dislike the way the world works.
I -really- dislike the way the world works.
I do believe in free speech and ideas...but that mod is just pushing the limits on what is acceptable. People continue to compare the mod to movies and books saying "Well there is worse stuff in movies", in my opinion...GAMES ARE NOT MOVIES. The difference between 'Seeing' and 'Doing' something is on completely seperate levels. Also in modern times a Videogame holds more influence than movies once did, I believe that FF7 had more of a impact on my childhood than any movie ever has.
That's better. It's good to know it wont be released on that one modder database.
The creator of the mod is terribly frightening in his thought-processes and choice of words. I think people don't understand that, while the mod maker has absolutely no conscience, the people who own the website realize that such a game is a liability that they don't want to deal with.
The creator of the mod is terribly frightening in his thought-processes and choice of words. I think people don't understand that, while the mod maker has absolutely no conscience, the people who own the website realize that such a game is a liability that they don't want to deal with.
Put the elements of a school and shooting in a game for America and it gets banned...
Pretty much the rule people are jumpy these days.
I would suggest watching the video on the webpage.
Honestly we kill people all of the time in games. Modern Warfare,halo,(insert shooter here).
Even small children at that in a game on the DS called Contact and possibly others I don't know of.
SO I don't see the big deal with this really, just people overreacting as always making things worse than they actually are. Scared is what they are.
Pretty much the rule people are jumpy these days.
I would suggest watching the video on the webpage.
Honestly we kill people all of the time in games. Modern Warfare,halo,(insert shooter here).
Even small children at that in a game on the DS called Contact and possibly others I don't know of.
SO I don't see the big deal with this really, just people overreacting as always making things worse than they actually are. Scared is what they are.
Shame. Wasn't going to buy, as it sounded boring to be honest, but would have been nice to have the opportunity to. I'll never understand why there is so much more hate for this game than most other triple A titles.
Maybe I'm just missing something.
Oh well, time to play GTA 4 and murder about half of the population, then get five stars, kill all the cops, then kill myself with an RPG.
Maybe I'm just missing something.
Oh well, time to play GTA 4 and murder about half of the population, then get five stars, kill all the cops, then kill myself with an RPG.
I don't really have anything to say here, because I already did my venting on the ModDB page, but I would like to note that it's nice to see that this thread hasn't devolved into the utter hatred of anyone on the other side of the line by everyone, as happened on the mod page. Seriously, every comment is either saying that ModDB sucks for taking it down, or that the people who think ModDB now sucks should go jump off a cliff. It's quite depressing.
Well, some slight arguments here, but still over 9000% better than the mod page.
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Double EDIT: Random thought while reading more entries; does anyone remember how widely criticized the JFK Reloaded game was, and how it was attacked so badly that the makers gave up on it, and doomed it to a life of being freeware that no one remembers? Freeware that actually takes some work to find, seeing as it was buried under controversy and had to be hidden? Anyone think this mod will go the same way?
Well, some slight arguments here, but still over 9000% better than the mod page.
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I like the quotes on that spoilered page, it really just goes to show what this SchoolShooter mod could've been if the ban hammer hadn't struck. I'm torn between believing that a game like this is just flat wrong, wanting to try it on the basis of just a game to see what it's like, and wanting to try it on the basis of forcing thought to see how it stands up against other mods we take to be thought-provoking like Dear Esther and such.GrimHeaper said:
Double EDIT: Random thought while reading more entries; does anyone remember how widely criticized the JFK Reloaded game was, and how it was attacked so badly that the makers gave up on it, and doomed it to a life of being freeware that no one remembers? Freeware that actually takes some work to find, seeing as it was buried under controversy and had to be hidden? Anyone think this mod will go the same way?
Free speech and rights and all that is great and all. The Mods also have a right to remove it. My personal opinion is that they did the right thing. I also hope that the F.B.I. now has this man on its watch list and is keeping a very close eye on him. I'm honestly surprised no one's called the police on him yet. If I heard comments like that, I'd fear for my life.
EDIT: I forgot about Jack's threat. Didn't his deadline pass a few weeks back? And he did NOTHING. Or am I getting my dates mixed up?
EDIT: I forgot about Jack's threat. Didn't his deadline pass a few weeks back? And he did NOTHING. Or am I getting my dates mixed up?
God dammit. You guys are acting like ModDB broke into the guy's house and deleted the mod from his computer. No. They just won't host it on their website. You can still download it once it's released.
I personally agree with their decision. Freedom of Speech or not, it's in extremely poor taste and the creator sounds like a psycho. I'll stick with 1187 and Research & Development.
I personally agree with their decision. Freedom of Speech or not, it's in extremely poor taste and the creator sounds like a psycho. I'll stick with 1187 and Research & Development.
Good job, ModDB. While free speech is important, there is a line that can be crossed and it's important to watch it.
I wholly support your decision and am now your bestest friend.
I wholly support your decision and am now your bestest friend.
I supported the release of this game until I read about the reason of its production...
Nonetheless, if anyone makes a violent and alienating game for a purpose other than "Anyone who wants to be a school shooter, but is too big of a pussy to actually do anything." will get my full support.
Nonetheless, if anyone makes a violent and alienating game for a purpose other than "Anyone who wants to be a school shooter, but is too big of a pussy to actually do anything." will get my full support.
Well said but I think you can stand up for moral principles by saying this game crosses the line. Where is the line? The moral line is just like good micro in Starcraft; I can't define it but I sure as hell know it when I see it.GothmogII said:
I'm also supporting ModDB's decision. Having games where people play out there fantasies instead of doing them in real life is no excuse. If those fantasies even *need* an outlet before they become a reality, that person needs to seek help, not vent in a game. This applies to any such fantasies, from pedophilia to mass murders at schools.
I might get flamed for this, but let's face it, games are *still* in a precarious position because of the ridiculous portrayal by the media and older generations that games are just for kids. While they are trying to solidify themselves as a legitimate media form as music, literature and film, this is not helping. I can only hope that day will come sooner where no one will differentiate them - and games will only receive the same amount of controversy as anything else. Until then, the bad taste should be held down somewhat, I mean there's enough gore and realism in games as it is (maybe a bit of a bias against in terms of sex, but that's just *another* aspect the general public needs to be aware of, not crying over one little scene like in Mass Effect)
I might get flamed for this, but let's face it, games are *still* in a precarious position because of the ridiculous portrayal by the media and older generations that games are just for kids. While they are trying to solidify themselves as a legitimate media form as music, literature and film, this is not helping. I can only hope that day will come sooner where no one will differentiate them - and games will only receive the same amount of controversy as anything else. Until then, the bad taste should be held down somewhat, I mean there's enough gore and realism in games as it is (maybe a bit of a bias against in terms of sex, but that's just *another* aspect the general public needs to be aware of, not crying over one little scene like in Mass Effect)
At first I was sad because I thought this was a mod I saw ages ago (Maybe HL1) where all the weapons are home(/school)made weapons out of, like, pencils and pens and rubberbands and ruler-swords and stuff. But then I found it was was some dumb troll project. D:
I wonder whatever happened to that cool project...
I wonder whatever happened to that cool project...