Modders Restore Knights of the Old Republic II Content

[Crazy Zaul]

Anyone have list of all the stuff they restored? The only thing I know about is the droid factory and that was in the 2009 version.

Found one.

 

[aceman67]

Anyone have list of all the stuff they restored? The only thing I know about is the droid factory and that was in the 2009 version.

Found one.

Have you tried... I don't know... GOING to the mod download page and looking at their change log pages? I mean, the link is in the article...

Common sense... who would'a figured...

 

[Anti Nudist Cupcake]

I've waited years for a completed version of a restored content mod. Other modders tried (team Gizka) but sort of... dissipated. Lazy tards.

Now that this is out, I can finally, after 4 years of last having played this spectacular game that has deeper writing than every bioware game released in the last three years, start playing again.

Damn this game had an awesome story, a shame they couldn't finish the ending properly.

 

[aceman67]

SSSSSHHHHHH! That never happened. If Revan and Malak were corrupted by the Sith Emperor then that would imply that

Spoiler

Revan never 'fell' in order to protect the galaxy from a bigger threat, he simply fell in order to do the True Sith's bidding.

And the writing in KOTOR II is way too good to allow such a good plot point be retconned in such a ham-fisted way.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but thats exactly what happened, go read the Revan novel.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

So, how long until Hassat Hunter and Stoney manage to get the M4-78 mod to run alongside this?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

SSSSSHHHHHH! That never happened. If Revan and Malak were corrupted by the Sith Emperor then that would imply that

Spoiler

Revan never 'fell' in order to protect the galaxy from a bigger threat, he simply fell in order to do the True Sith's bidding.

And the writing in KOTOR II is way too good to allow such a good plot point be retconned in such a ham-fisted way.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but thats exactly what happened, go read the Revan novel.

You also realize that the last time Drew Karpyshin adapted another Star Wars author's work, he completely shat over the Jedi Versus Sith comics to make Darth Bane into a complete moron?

The man is a hack when he isn't writing his own characters. Besides, Games and Books are both on the same level of Canon, C, meaning that they are interchangeable. So I'll go with the ambiguous and not totally ham fisted explanations.

 

[malestrithe]

No one considered that the version you played at the time was the one the designers intended? For whatever reason, time probably, the designers chose to jettison that excess baggage and focused on the things they could reasonably work on.

You played the designers vision of the game. Don't couch this modding notion with the noble sounding "it how they wanted it."

 

[EHKOS]

....I think I just made a mess in my pants. Going to install this right now, screw you guys!
*runs off to find ancient install discs*

 

[PPB]

I really need to try this out. I think the last time I played KotOR 2 was about 4 years ago and I remember telling myself I wouldn't play it again without a mod that restores some of the content (as I recall, there were more than one project going on at the time, such as Team Gizka's TSLRP which I believe died along the way).

So I'm adding KotOR 2 to my playing queue. If only it wasn't so full right now, with so little time...

 

[Doom972]

I didn't realize they continued to improve on it. I might have to do another playthrough. I think this is one of the best examples of modding. This is why I play on PC.

 

[Doom972]

No one considered that the version you played at the time was the one the designers intended? For whatever reason, time probably, the designers chose to jettison that excess baggage and focused on the things they could reasonably work on.

You played the designers vision of the game. Don't couch this modding notion with the noble sounding "it how they wanted it."

There are quests that don't go anywhere and unfinished subplots. This is clearly an incomplete game.

 

[crazyrabbits]

*snip*

As Tumedus said, there are very strict rules that Lucas and Lucasarts/film set forth that determine what is Canon and what is not.

That rules being: If it is published under the Star Wars/Lucasfilm Entertainment brand, IT IS CANON. Period.

(puts on fanboy hat)

There are actually multiple levels of canon in the Star Wars universe, according to the company's official continuity editor. This is referred to as the "Holocron", and there are five levels.

G-canon is "absolute" canon, and refers to the films (in their most "current" form), novelizations, radio plays and direct statements from Lucas. T-canon is anything related to television shows (The Clone Wars, the supposed live-action series), which supercedes C-canon (anything related to the Expanded Universe). N-canon is non-continuity works that still have elements considered to be canon (Star Wars: Galaxies, for example). Non-canon is any "what if" stories, crossover appearances, etc.

In addition, the current continuity editor (Leland Chee) has said in various interviews that:

a) there is one overall continuity;
b) Future C-canon works can override information found in prior C-canon works if it's consistent;
c) Total canon is defined as the film plus Expanded Universe continuity.

In short, if future stories use information from a previous EU story and keep it consistent, it has a higher level of canonicity. Seeing as Revan is listed as a male Lightside in the book, and referred to as such in the sequel, it is (for all intensive purposes) canon to the EU. His 'alternate' ideals in the first game are rendered irrelevant due to the fact that he is clearly listed as having a set identity in future works, which are consistent.

 

[Darth_Payn]

*snip*

You can say what ever you want, disagree with me for however long you want, but this novel: http://www.starwars.com/shop/books/star_wars_the_old_republic_revan/

Confirms EVERYTHING I have said. And its written by the guy who WROTE the original KOTOR and the SWTOR storylines.

Star Wars novels are considered CANON. Your opinion is moot.

Moot? I see. Now, you've used the word, but I don't think you know what opinion means. Unless you want to take a look at your post there and can honestly argue opinion's a matter of right and wrong, you're (ironically) wrong.

You enjoy your opinion. I'll enjoy mine. We both know who is right, right?

Just so you know, you are wrong and aceman is right. The Star Wars universe is very very precise about what is considered canon in its universe. To the point that it has several official, as in legally established by GL and LucasArts, levels of canon to account for any continuity issues.

Regardless of what you think it should be, the canonical Revan from KotOR timeline onward is explicity lightside.

That's what I'm talking about. Everything in the STAR WARS timeline that doesn't contradict the movies is canon. If it adds to the movies, that's just gravy. I remember this one story in TIME saying there's a guy whose entire job is keeping order in the Expanded Universe, and his title is Keeper of the Holocron.