Modding single player Mass Effect 3 bans you from Origin

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

You have to be seriously mentally challenged to ban people for modding games. They make PC gamers buy the games and DLC just so they could support a company that does good by them. Would Bethesda be where it is now if their games weren't so heavily moddable? Would Valve be where it is? Fuck no. Counter Strike was created as a mod. Counter Strike made Valve famous. Counter Strike uplifted e-sports and companies that manufacture mouses, mousepads and gaming keyboards. After Counter Strike every major developer tried to recreate it's success, thus creating Battlefield and Call of Duty (among others). Big companies owe everything to the modding community! Treyarch went as far as to rip off gun-game which is a community mod for Counter Strike. God knows what modding community could come up with if Bioware released modding tools for ME3 and if DICE released modding tools for BF3. They could create new mods, new missions, new games. People would buy the core game just to be able to play awesome mods. EA could then adopt those mods as official mods and base games on them. That's what a good company does. That's what Valve did and look at them!

 

[Raesvelg]

You have to be seriously mentally challenged to ban people for modding games.

Good for you they're not going to. Click the link in the OP.

"As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
game."

 

[Xangi]

You have to be seriously mentally challenged to ban people for modding games.

Good for you they're not going to. Click the link in the OP.

"As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
game."

Read the last post, Origin bans anyone with modded SP files. Not surprising considering this is EA.

 

[Raesvelg]

Read the last post, Origin bans anyone with modded SP files. Not surprising considering this is EA.

I did. Did you?

Recently, at least?

"To clarify,

Scylla was
correct and I was correct. Scylla's answer was more broadly based in
that if you modify your SP and it has no game changing effects to
your/others multiplayer experience (say for example, granting you x
amount of credits or making a weapon x times more powerful) then there
is no problem with this. My answer was poorly worded and I apologize for
that - I was aiming to answer a couple questions I had received via PM
(the same two questions from many different users) as well as support
what Scylla said.

As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
game."

 

[Double A]

You can write all over the books you buy, despite them not being your intellectual property. How are mods any different?

This is ludicrous. I am sorry but when I purchase a product from someone I expect to be able to do with it what I will within the confines of the law. EA can kindly go to hell.

Isn't that like telling a trout it can go jump in a lake?

 

[Xangi]

Read the last post, Origin bans anyone with modded SP files. Not surprising considering this is EA.

I did. Did you?

Recently, at least?

"To clarify,

Scylla was
correct and I was correct. Scylla's answer was more broadly based in
that if you modify your SP and it has no game changing effects to
your/others multiplayer experience (say for example, granting you x
amount of credits or making a weapon x times more powerful) then there
is no problem with this. My answer was poorly worded and I apologize for
that - I was aiming to answer a couple questions I had received via PM
(the same two questions from many different users) as well as support
what Scylla said.

As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
game."

"To confirm, YES you will be banned if Origin picks up that you modified SP which it scans for on ME3 launch. Locked."

This is all I need, why are you even trying to defend this policy?

 

[Fappy]

You can write all over the books you buy, despite them not being your intellectual property. How are mods any different?

This is ludicrous. I am sorry but when I purchase a product from someone I expect to be able to do with it what I will within the confines of the law. EA can kindly go to hell.

Isn't that like telling a trout it can go jump in a lake?

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Raesvelg]

Read the last post, Origin bans anyone with modded SP files. Not surprising considering this is EA.

I did. Did you?

Recently, at least?

"To clarify,

Scylla was
correct and I was correct. Scylla's answer was more broadly based in
that if you modify your SP and it has no game changing effects to
your/others multiplayer experience (say for example, granting you x
amount of credits or making a weapon x times more powerful) then there
is no problem with this. My answer was poorly worded and I apologize for
that - I was aiming to answer a couple questions I had received via PM
(the same two questions from many different users) as well as support
what Scylla said.

As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned
for modifying your files *unless (and this is where my intention was)
they give you an unfair advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the
game."

"To confirm, YES you will be banned if Origin picks up that you modified SP which it scans for on ME3 launch. Locked."

This is all I need, why are you even trying to defend this policy?

He went back and clarified his statement to what I posted above.

I really don't know how much clearer I can make this.

 

[Skallagrimm]

Legality is nothing to do with morality.

It's clear why EA are punishing people who mod Mass Effect 3, it's control. They want control over the product because then they can just sell more of it, nobody makes stuff they might want to put into DLC that someone might have the brazen gall to make for the sake of oh, I don't know, making the game more enjoyable. Such selfishness for someone to make an enhancement to the game in their spare time without EA's permission, and going against EULAs..... Because those are the cornerstones of everything that society stands for obviously.

Seriously, who the hell can actually support this kind of thing, and above all, why? Hurts nobody, and only gives people more enjoyment. Bethesda and Valve have the right idea, EA are fast becoming a company I will actively deny money to.

 

[Raesvelg]

Seriously, who the hell can actually support this kind of thing, and above all, why? Hurts nobody, and only gives people more enjoyment. Bethesda and Valve have the right idea, EA are fast becoming a company I will actively deny money to.

Nobody has to support it, because it's not true.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/344/index/9917845/2#10648995

The post was updated, admittedly days after what was likely an off-the-cuff remark that ultimately sparked this thread.

The first rep to speak in the thread was correct; you'll only get banned if you mod the game to cheat in multiplayer. Which is pretty much the way it works with every damn multiplayer game there is anyway.

All this misplaced rage is eroding my faith in humanity and their ability to do things like, you know, read.

 

[Atmos Duality]

All this misplaced rage is eroding my faith in humanity and their ability to do things like, you know, read.

It's misplaced because they changed their statement AFTER the topic took off?
At least try to keep the misanthropic jabs in context and continuity if you must make them.

 

[Raesvelg]

All this misplaced rage is eroding my faith in humanity and their ability to do things like, you know, read.

It's misplaced because they changed their statement AFTER the topic took off?
At least try to keep the misanthropic jabs in context and continuity if you must make them.

Basically anyone who came in after post 449 (my own, I might add) and who didn't remark that this whole thing has basically been a tempest in a teapot is suffering from misplaced rage, yes.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Basically anyone who came in after post 449 (my own, I might add) and who didn't remark that this whole thing has basically been a tempest in a teapot is suffering from misplaced rage, yes.

Well, as long as we aren't slamming anyone out of order...
Carry on with your contempt for humanity. ^_^

 

[Raesvelg]

Well, as long as we aren't slamming anyone out of order...
Carry on with your contempt for humanity. ^_^

Honestly, it just gets frustrating when people clearly feel the need to chime in without reading anything other than the OP, and not even bothering to click on the link before they rush to the end to scribble down some rage-induced rant.

I've seen this exact pattern repeated over and over again when someone makes an off-the-cuff remark in an official capacity (an inherently contradictory one in this instance, actually), and people just explode for days until a clarification is made... and then people who can't be bothered to stay current continue to explode with rage.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Honestly, it just gets frustrating when people clearly feel the need to chime in without reading anything other than the OP, and not even bothering to click on the link before they rush to the end to scribble down some rage-induced rant.

I've seen this exact pattern repeated over and over again when someone makes an off-the-cuff remark in an official capacity (an inherently contradictory one in this instance, actually), and people just explode for days until a clarification is made... and then people who can't be bothered to stay current continue to explode with rage.

Oh, I know that frustration all too well.

Within this very topic (some 4 pages or something back), I explained the logic behind contract law and its intent rather explicitly...only to have the same incorrect claims and ignorant statements about it pop up again.

The frustration of futility is not wasted on me. But hey, I don't hate humanity for it. I just hate the stupidity. And hard as it is to believe in the moment, there is more to people than just collective idiocy.

 

[Omnific One]

Well, I sure most gamers would find a way to continue to play if they get banned. If you know what I mean.

Hopefully it won't happen to me, but contingency plans are always good.

 

[TheScientificIssole]

Stop quoting me. I get it.

Do you?

Sorry is single player that hard for you?

Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?

If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.

It's easy enough.

Bull Crap!

 

[Francis Budden-Hinds]

I'm curious as to where the jump from "EA will ban you if they catch you modding Mass Effect" to "you shouldn't mod Mass Effect" comes from. I'd be more inclined to say "you should try not to get caught."

I going to be honest here, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

EA will ban you if they catch you modding Mass Effect 3 - this has been the case before I even discovered this thread, it was established by BioWare, not me.

You shouldn't mod Mass Effect 3 - I said this at the very start, so I don't know how you think I jumped to it.

Also, you'd rather argue with someone has an opinion instead of the people who actually created the problem?

Because EA isn't an earthquake or a Bear. It's not some kind of uncontrolled natural phenomena, it's a company made up of people. Thus we can assign moral character to it's actions and assess them with adjectives like "good" or "bad".

Okay so EA will ban you for modding their games. Fine. The question is should they?

 

[Cyrus Hanley]

Stop quoting me. I get it.

Do you really?

 

[Vuliev]

This is a unacceptable. They couldn't even be arsed to make the FOV in PC version tolerable. We have to mod the game in order to play it without getting sick, and they wanna ban us for it. They fucked up PC version. Is it really that hard to make a FOV slider and add in some graphics options and a holster button? They made the fuckin' game they can add that stuff in less than 5 minutes.

Okay, I have to ask: what exactly does changing the FOV do? I haven't had any problems with it in any of the Mass Effects, but seeing everyone complain about it makes me curious.