Modern Warfare 2 boycott huge Success

[MiracleOfSound]

When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.

I know you're new here but platform bashing is not appreciated by most escapists. Using words like 'contard' makes you look like a troll.

To be clear, I'm not referring to every console gamer, just those that purchased Modern Warfare 2.

That doesn't make it any better.

I don't see your point, assuming you have one.

My point is that words like 'contard' don't really hold a place in intelligent discussion.

It encourages flaming between consolers and PC gamers, which is a waste of everybody's time and energy.

 

[CmdrGoob]

This anti-boycott shit is so pathetic, though. "Hahahah, look, a games company made millions even though they reduced the features available in their game, isn't that awesome, I'm glad I'm on their side." Yeah, great. That's real great for gaming.

 

[oliveira8]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=227204?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-News-RSS

This prety much sums up the whole situation; and puts it all into perspective.


I was really looking forward to COD6. The only saving grace is that they released the info early enough to save alot of PC gamers and me 60 bucks. I highly doubt even NOW that was intentional since Activision has done little in the way of showing any remorse or lack of greed over the situation.

Whats really scary is that soo many PC gamers have bought the damn game and even now lie to them selves by saying "oh, its not that bad... I can get used to it..."

The outrage has boiled down now to complacency

One more Nail in the PC gamer coffin.

... with EA I'm sure watching from the side lines waiting to see if activision can make a profit.

jesus christ people its ONE COMPANY. so what if IW hates the PC? who gives a rat's ass? it doesnt mean the death of the PC. valve hates the ps3 yet the ps3 is still going strong. stop making false idols and predictions then worshiping them as the second coming. IW doesnt control the entire market or what it makes. PC gaming isn't going anywhere. the PC has MANY genres that dont get press because it is not console related. one FPS not being for the PC isn't a big deal nor does it mean it's death. its just another game that no one will remember in ONE TO THREE YEARS. saying PC gaming will die is like saying the american economy in 2000-2010 can survive without oil/gasoline. PC gaming isnt in the spotlight anymore. it may sound like a bad thing to say from a PC gamer BUT PC gaming is still alive and very healthy, its just taking the "puppet master/cieling cat/altiar from AC1" approach. it may LOOK like its gone but its there, and its watching.

It's not IW. It's Activision the company that OWNS IW.

And they are not just one simple company in the video game industry. They are THE fucking company in the video gaming industry.

They make the most profit, they sell plenty of well recognized inside and outside of Gaming world(Call of Duty, Guitar Hero and World of Warcraft all under one roof) and they are fucking rich. And the bigger they grow(money wise) the more expansive they going to get. Maybe they will start to eat more gaming companies or another publlishing house. Anything can happen now.

At the end of this decade Activision-Blizzard has no real competitor, has their former adversary EA has been trailing off.(With huge revenue loses and hundreds of lay offs and closing studios.)
So the next decade in gaming is going to be in their hands. Let it be for the PC or Console.

 

[Nazulu]

I can't beleive how many thick escapists we have here, this is actually a loss to everyone! Waiting till the day when single player will be 2 hours long and you can only have 3 vs 3 in random servers with no protection from hackers.

 

[Tdc2182]

Haha, knew it wouldn't, I mean a lot of CoD's fan base are casual gamers who don't care about the PC's problems as they're console gamers.

As for me, I just brought it for my PS3

Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is this is what a lot of the anger stems from.

Uhh, excuse me... Say again because I could have just have sworn You said "Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is" I gotta get my eyes checked. That statement is complete and utter bull.

 

[Tdc2182]

When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.

I know you're new here but platform bashing is not appreciated by most escapists. Using words like 'contard' makes you look like a troll.

To be clear, I'm not referring to every console gamer, just those that purchased Modern Warfare 2.

That doesn't make it any better.

I don't see your point, assuming you have one.

To make it more easier for you to understand, Dont be a douchebag, escpecially when you are new.

 

[JeanLuc761]

Haha, knew it wouldn't, I mean a lot of CoD's fan base are casual gamers who don't care about the PC's problems as they're console gamers.

As for me, I just brought it for my PS3

Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is this is what a lot of the anger stems from.

Uhh, excuse me... Say again because I could have just have sworn You said "Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is" I gotta get my eyes checked. That statement is complete and utter bull.

You are apparently unaware of the fact that the first Call of Duty, also published by Activision and developed by Infinity Ward, was released only on PC. Modern Warfare was the first major success on both the PC and console. Just fyi

 

[stabnex]

I'm going to start stabbing you now... I'm not sure when I'm going to stop.

 

[Noname55]

When the contards are playing "Modern FPS #864: This Time With A New Gun" they can look back on this and see why.

I know you're new here but platform bashing is not appreciated by most escapists. Using words like 'contard' makes you look like a troll.

To be clear, I'm not referring to every console gamer, just those that purchased Modern Warfare 2.

That doesn't make it any better.

I don't see your point, assuming you have one.

My point is that words like 'contard' don't really hold a place in intelligent discussion.

It encourages flaming between consolers and PC gamers, which is a waste of everybody's time and energy.

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

They came up with a new story, made unique revisions to their renowned multiplayer, had co-op missions that just from what I've seen moved beyond standard shoot-fests, etc. There are definitely plenty of games in this genre milking the same old stuff over and over, but I'm not ready to put MW2 in there just yet. Maybe something like Crysis though; all that does is take Battlefield 2, FarCry, and every random shooter feature made in the last few years and bundle it together into something that didn't really work.

But how has any of those "innovations" not been done before?

I respectfully point you to a game called Just Cause; an open-world GTA-style game that made a hundred innovations in transportation through mechanics like a grappling hook and a parachute. Just seeing those in action I knew they could be taken somewhere. But overall the game was horrible due to a lack of polish and the fact that the most basic elements; taking an assault rifle and shooting up a base; did not feel natural at all.

There are much more subtle innovations in a game you never know about. That intern who says "Hey, I came up with a more effective animation transition system so if there's empty space between the keyframes it'll interpolate and look more smooth. Furthermore, we can still allow user input while it's doing it." actually makes the game more fun. But can you put that stuff on the back of a game box? No.
Some game, yes, follow a lot of innovations that were made a long time ago, but just do them much better. Super Mario 64 wasn't the VERY first 3D platformer, but the previous one, (Geograph Seal by my research) got no recognition because it didn't do anything very well.

Sometimes just changing a lot of numbers, and little game rule changes that are too out-there for a 1.7 update, can completely fix a game.

Just Cause was a better game than Modern Warfare 2 in my opinion, because any attempt at innovation is superior to the continued stagnation of the industry. Even with its flaws, the attempts at innovation make up for it.

 

[CriMs0nC0bra]

Did you expect different? The majority of the people who play Call of Duty also make enlightened gaming purchases such as Madden and Guitar Hero every year. The sales will continue as long as people are dim-witted and willing to accept the same thing, fed to them every year for higher prices each time. Which.. they will.
I'll continue enjoying Dragon Age and Assassin's Creed II. I honestly have no desire to play MW2 in the slightest, so I guess I'm a neutral party here. I'll play it eventually, because I'm sure the story is well done, as was the first.

But really.. Anyone who is AGAINST the ideas of the boycotters must be insane. I'm not saying join them, but really.. They are making a valid point. Their efforts are in vain, yes.. But when a PC game is advertised with "Mouse and Keyboard control! And, graphic options!" as it's main features, anyone who has played games on the PC for any decent amount of time will realize that's ludicrous. That includes the jocks who only own a 360 or a PS3 and know nothing about gaming aside from shootin' bitchez is fun, and madden is tha shit.

 

[Tdc2182]

Haha, knew it wouldn't, I mean a lot of CoD's fan base are casual gamers who don't care about the PC's problems as they're console gamers.

As for me, I just brought it for my PS3

Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is this is what a lot of the anger stems from.

Uhh, excuse me... Say again because I could have just have sworn You said "Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is" I gotta get my eyes checked. That statement is complete and utter bull.

You are apparently unaware of the fact that the first Call of Duty, also published by Activision and developed by Infinity Ward, was released only on PC. Modern Warfare was the first major success on both the PC and console. Just fyi

And it wasn't recognized widely until it came to console version.

 

[JeanLuc761]

Haha, knew it wouldn't, I mean a lot of CoD's fan base are casual gamers who don't care about the PC's problems as they're console gamers.

As for me, I just brought it for my PS3

Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is this is what a lot of the anger stems from.

Uhh, excuse me... Say again because I could have just have sworn You said "Which is unfair as it was the PC GAMERS who made cod what it is" I gotta get my eyes checked. That statement is complete and utter bull.

You are apparently unaware of the fact that the first Call of Duty, also published by Activision and developed by Infinity Ward, was released only on PC. Modern Warfare was the first major success on both the PC and console. Just fyi

And it wasn't recognized widely until it came to console version.

Not true. Call of Duty 2 and 3 were on consoles and yet the series wasn't widely recognized then (except to those who were fans of the series from the beginning). It wasn't until Modern Warfare came out that Call of Duty really got the attention. For that matter, Modern Warfare wasn't successful just because it was on consoles, it was successful because it was an excellent game.

 

[Caradinist]

I understand why some folks were mad at the lack of dedicated servers, i myself played the first Call of Duty when it came out, and i was accustomed by the 32, even 64 player matches (which by the way is disorienting and chaotic at best, throwing your grenade up in the air hoping to nail a target was and actually still is a common tactic)

Although i sympathize with them, i now switched to X-Box 360 for CoD games. The very main reason for this is that my computer can no longer support these games, just running this game would involve going through a computer overhaul, buying 400 bucks worth of hardware to switch from AGP to PCI-E.

As for the lack of dedicated server, it really is a shame. the days of 64 players blowing each other up in one server that's paid by somebody else in Call of Duty is over. But hey, at least the console can run it at 60 frames no problem.

Besides, i would rather deal with 12 year olds screaming into their mics than players equipped with a Heavy Machinegun and a Wallhack.

 

[oliveira8]

*snip*

they can't grow, any more growth/control and the US government will step in and take everything. there is a little thing called anti trust laws to make sure markets can grow/develope and not be impeded by bigger companies. activision cannot control the industry, if they did, they will get one hell of a ***** slap from uncle sam. no one company can control the market, or determine what it does, no matter how rich they are.[/quote]

They are a multi-international company runned by French people.
The people they cannot buy/merge with is EA(And Ubisoft!) who is Activision-Blizzard main competitor. And inside the market theres still plenty of niche markets.
As long a company doesn't abuse his dominion they can keep rolling.
The community law has holes in which clever business men can go around, and Activision isn't being runned by idiots, they know how make business. They just don't know how to make games.

And they can grow past videogames like a digital distribuition system of their own, their own console, PC hardware, etc etc...The possibilities are endless with enough money and the right timing.

 

[Bat Vader]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

 

[mechanixis]

There is a link to an image my flatmate received, it is the group on steam made for the boycott of MW2. On the page 99% of the people are actually playing MW2, i'll see if i can find it.

http://kotaku.com/5403286/what-modern-warfare-2-boycotters-are-playing

So much for a boycott.

Second edit: Not really 99% of them, but still it sounded good!

This is INCREDIBLY HILARIOUS.

Frankly, this whole boycott thing is a joke, and nothing anyone says will validate it to me. Consumers in this industry have no clout whatsoever. Sure, Infinity Ward made some fairly dickish decisions that I don't see a basis for, but boycotting the game is the most pointless gesture imaginable. And developers know that these are only empty threats, see above link, because the core of the fanbase is teenage boys without the self-restraint to follow through on a boycott.

 

[Noname55]

I see no flaming in here, therefore that point has been rendered false.

No it hasn't. Until this thread is locked or no one posts on it again the point still stand that it can encourage flaming by making poking fun at a specific group.

Whether they bought bought Modern Warfare 2 or not it irrelevant. So what if people bought Modern Warfare 2. That was their choice and they shouldn't be looked down upon by people who boycotted or don't support Infinity Ward or Activision.

PC gamers and Console gamers are in the end all gamers. Whether or not anyone wants to accept it or deny it is their choice.

So because we are part of the same overarching group we need to support everything that group does? That's some faulty logic right there. Hey, we're all people, I suppose I should support the Janjaweed.

 

[Nektheritos]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/11/1258035395841.jpg

Aaah, gotta love boycotters...