Modern Warfare 2 Recalled in Russia

[ma55ter_fett]

I think everyone saw this one comeing from a long ways off, IW just didn't care enough to run a decent PR campain apparently.

 

[flaming_squirrel]

My favourite part about MW1+2 is how the Americans get completely and utterly buttfucked both times, resulting in the British SAS crew to save the day. Not sure why the Russians are being such a bunch of pussies about it when that's taken into consideration...

I'm also boycotting this game. So, it's 18 people total - rejoice, brother!
Anyway. The point is - have you ever seen a Russian terrorist? You know, not some southern nations, which was once parts of USSR and now feel offended for no apparent reason, but a truly Russian terrorist? IW basically made it all up. And that pisses people off here. Russians have never organized terrorist acts. But since some people here still actually think WE attacked Georgia... Perhaps you think we're all drunkards and communists.

Your tears fuel my airport killing spree.

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

The fact that Russians are whining about this is odd, since, I think, they are the bad guys in pretty much every American game they're in.

Fixed.

There really are terrorists in Russia who kill Russians(the terrorists may be thetzenian or any other of the hundreds of minorities living in Russia).

Imagine a game, where British terrorists brutally murder British civilians. You know, stereotypical British, first they drink tea with cookies and then gear up and start mass murder. What? There are terrorists in GB. Oh, they're not British? And "thetzenian" are not Russian. Now you understand?

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

You know what, people? All the outrage is because Russian people are fed up with "OMFG COMMUNAZIS" portrayals, yet there are a bunch of nationalistic movements in the country. And i can't say gonverment does a good job in fighting racial intolerance. Plus, Putin is a pretty tough leader. Not a full-blown dictator, but still pretty hard-line one.

It's kinda funny how our gamers rage about airport level, yet they have no qualms about...

Spoiler

...Washington D.C. being set on fire. Like they would not torch it if they had the chance.

Bunch of hypocrites.

This. Absolutely this.
I have grown to hate our gamers.
Every forum states exactly the same "Fucking Americans. Again we are the bad guys. It is right that the game was banned."
I am so not proud to be a russian gamer right now.

 

[baseracer]

Oh Russia. Didn't you read the quotes after you died? About how nationalist sucks.

 

[TheBlobThing]

You know what, people? All the outrage is because Russian people are fed up with "OMFG COMMUNAZIS" portrayals, yet there are a bunch of nationalistic movements in the country. And i can't say gonverment does a good job in fighting racial intolerance. Plus, Putin is a pretty tough leader. Not a full-blown dictator, but still pretty hard-line one.

It's kinda funny how our gamers rage about airport level, yet they have no qualms about...

Spoiler

...Washington D.C. being set on fire. Like they would not torch it if they had the chance.

Bunch of hypocrites.

I completely agree with this sentiment. Russia has a history of being a hard brutal dictatorship, hence they translate SO WELL to being video game bad-guys.

 

[Alex the Pally]

I consider the ones with the predator missiles to be the most fun. Finger of god technology is so awesomely destructive.[/spoiler]

The Predator isn't a missile, it's a UAV. The missiles themselves are the good ol' Hellfires that they mount on the Apache.
Obligatory Wiki link [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-1_Predator]

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

Your tears fuel my airport killing spree.

Why do you think I'm crying? I'm just getting angry. It's Russian habit - we remain silent until we're really pissed off. And when we're really pissed... You ever heard what happened to Napoleon? He was pretty much successful. But then he pissed off us.

 

[WNxSajuukCor]

I like a good story, and I think that MW2 pulled off a good story aside from leaving things well open enough for a MW3 in another two years.

Spoiler

There's a reason why they said "No Russian" before entering the airport. It was set up that way by Shepard to make it look as if Americans had a role in the massacre. That's why the CIA agent is shot. So, if anything, Russia took this airport attack as an act of war and invaded America. Makerov was just the middle man paid to carry out the attack to incite war between the two countries. Russia was defending itself in their eyes, they certainly shouldn't be thought of as the generic "bad guys." If people don't see it this way then the story of the game is lost to them

 

[Carnagath]

I'm not so sure that, if a game was released where you play a US marine that murders families in Iraq, it would be very well received in the US either.

 

[ChaosGenesis]

Anyway. The point is - have you ever seen a Russian terrorist? You know, not some southern nations, which was once parts of USSR and now feel offended for no apparent reason, but a truly Russian terrorist? IW basically made it all up. And that pisses people off here. Russians have never organized terrorist acts.

Don't be so ignorant. Most every country has terrorists (if not all).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia

The point is: It's a video game. If you're so detached from reality that you take things like this to heart, that's fine for you. Don't buy or play the game. But don't try and make a big deal about it or try and deny an enjoyable game from people who are mature enough to realize they're using a controller/mouse to virtually "kill" a bunch pixels in a shape of people, not murdering real people.

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

I have grown to hate our gamers.
Every forum states exactly the same "Fucking Americans. Again we are the bad guys. It is right that the game was banned."
I am so not proud to be a russian gamer right now.

I am so not proud that you're a Russian gamer too. Bad guys are international in MW2 but IW completely made up this this terrorist thing, that's the problem. Read my British example above.

 

[baseracer]

Your tears fuel my airport killing spree.

Why do you think I'm crying? I'm just getting angry. It's Russian habit - we remain silent until we're really pissed off. And when we're really pissed... You ever heard what happened to Napoleon? He was pretty much successful. But then he pissed off us.

No, it was a dumb move by Napoleon to stay in Russia during the winter. The smartest thing the Russian's did was use the scorched earth policy. And the Russians didn't even do it first. It was the Portuguese who recommended the Russians to do that.

 

[Spitfire175]

The fact that Russians are whining about this is odd, since, I think, they are the bad guys in pretty much every American game they're in.

Fixed.

There really are terrorists in Russia who kill Russians(the terrorists may be thetzenian or any other of the hundreds of minorities living in Russia).

Imagine a game, where British terrorists brutally murder British civilians. You know, stereotypical British, first they drink tea with cookies and then gear up and start mass murder. What? There are terrorists in GB. Oh, they're not British? And "thetzenian" are not Russian. Now you understand?

My my, you are an angry one, aren't you?
First off, I had to make a genralistion about games that involve Russians. Or can you name games that potray Russians as the good guys? Other that Stalin vs. Martians?

Did MW2 actually tell aything about Makarov's origins? Was he a stereotypical Russian? I think not. British terrorists, eh? They have home grown ones and The IRA just next door.

If you bother to read carfully, I indeed said "thetzenian" are not Russian, I don't understand why you repeat what I said? They are a minority that demands independence, I do very well know that. It's not unheard of someone killing citizens of his own country in an act of terrorism, why should Russia be so much different? Because "it's Russia"? How very short sighted and selfish. If Makarov kills civilians, he isn't exactly a frontman for the nation/people, is he? He works for money and power, not just "because he's Russian". And then there's the thing that (in MW2) the Russian goverment was overthrown by the ultranationalists(so it would seem, as Zakahev was made into a hero, at least that's how I saw it, don't crucify me if it's not so), so one could interpert the scene and its origins so that it is possible only because the real goverment was not in power anymore. Wouldn't that be a homage to Putin?

Calm down, getting angry gets you nowhere.

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

Don't be so ignorant. Most every country has terrorists (if not all).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia

Oh my. You actually mentioned those terrorist acts. Against Tsar/Emperor. Why not remember the times when Germans were barbarians? OK, there are no Russian terrorists in modern Russia - now it's clear, I hope?
You know, I see you don't care how your people are portrait-ed in videogames, movies, books? You can always say - that's just pixels/dvd video/paper. But it is something, shown to millions. Millions of - let's be honest - mostly ignorant and stupid people. Who will buy "da best shooter game dis year" and then they go one "Russian? Ya, those are terrorists! They kill other Russian".

 

[Spitfire175]

Your tears fuel my airport killing spree.

Why do you think I'm crying? I'm just getting angry. It's Russian habit - we remain silent until we're really pissed off. And when we're really pissed... You ever heard what happened to Napoleon? He was pretty much successful. But then he pissed off us.

No, it was a dumb move by Napoleon to stay in Russia during the winter. The smartest thing the Russian's did was use the scorched earth policy. And the Russians didn't even do it first. It was the Portuguese who recommended the Russians to do that.

It's Russia's greatest weapon, General winter that has saved their hides from the western European dictators. Until that, they get their arses handed back to them.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

I have grown to hate our gamers.
Every forum states exactly the same "Fucking Americans. Again we are the bad guys. It is right that the game was banned."
I am so not proud to be a russian gamer right now.

I am so not proud that you're a Russian gamer too. Bad guys are international in MW2 but IW completely made up this this terrorist thing, that's the problem. Read my British example above.

Your retarded hooray-patriotism saddens me. Terrorists don't have a nationality. It doesn't matter if they are arabic, chinese, russian, hell, american.
Stereotype my ass, if you're so easily offended, then you're not being patriotic, you're being stupid. Your words make no sense.

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

If you bother to read carfully, I indeed said "thetzenian" are not Russian, I don't understand why you repeat what I said? They are a minority that demands independence, I do very well know that. It's not unheard of someone killing citizens of his own country in an act of terrorism, why should Russia be so much different? Because "it's Russia"? How very short sighted and selfish. If Makarov kills civilians, he isn't exactly a frontman for the nation/people, is he? He works for money and power, not just "because he's Russian". And then there's the thing that (in MW2) the Russian goverment was overthrown by the ultranationalists(so it would seem, as Zakahev was made into a hero, at least that's how I saw it, don't crucify me if it's not so), so one could interpert the scene and its origins so that it is possible only because the real goverment was not in power anymore. Wouldn't that be a homage to Putin?

Calm down, getting angry gets you nowhere.

Look, if all people who's gonna buy this game were as smart and intelligent as you are, then there would have been no need for bans or censorship at all.

 

[Danpascooch]

I can't say I am too surprised, at least they have a better reason than about 95% of Australia's bans

 

[Danpascooch]

Although I haven't played the game myself (I'm one of the 17 or so people ACTUALLY boycotting it), if there are other things there that obviously are meant to appeal to an exclusively American audience, then the outcry becomes far more justified.

I'm also boycotting this game. So, it's 18 people total - rejoice, brother!
Anyway. The point is - have you ever seen a Russian terrorist? You know, not some southern nations, which was once parts of USSR and now feel offended for no apparent reason, but a truly Russian terrorist? IW basically made it all up. And that pisses people off here. Russians have never organized terrorist acts. But since some people here still actually think WE attacked Georgia... Perhaps you think we're all drunkards and communists.

No, out of all the terrorists I have personally seen, none of the zero of them were Russian.

Since I doubt you have seen too many terrorists personally, I am assuming you are basing this stereotypical and false view on games and movies and TV shows