Don't worry. They still are.mikecoulter said:That's pretty pathetic Russia. I thought you were badass.
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Number six.
Modern Warfare 2 Recalled in Russia
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http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-manliest-images-on-the-internet/
Number six.
I was actually just lying in my bath today, whilst replaying the games astonishing 3rd act in my head, thinking, "How are the Russians going to react to this game?"
It seems they took the easy way out.
Dear god, get a sense of humour. If a film did this then it'd be ok. But no... just because it's a game means we all have to get in a bit of a tizzy.
For the record, I played this scene and felt god awful for doing it. But then my brother played it and he felt great so I'm not sure if that says more about me or my family.
It seems they took the easy way out.
Dear god, get a sense of humour. If a film did this then it'd be ok. But no... just because it's a game means we all have to get in a bit of a tizzy.
For the record, I played this scene and felt god awful for doing it. But then my brother played it and he felt great so I'm not sure if that says more about me or my family.
MW2 is actually the only game that offends me. My good sire, if only all common people understood that terrorists have no nation... But they don't understand. And that's why we still have to ban things in XXI century.Journeythroughhell said:
You got me there.Lord_Gremlin said:
Maybe we need a new rating system for people buying video games. Loosen the age restrictions and instead implement a "How stupid and ignorant are you?" system.
It's nice to see that there are others genuinely boycotting MW2. I still don't know what IW was thinking when they butchered the PC version's online side and other capabilities... thanks, brother. xDLord_Gremlin said:
Anyway; making up some other terrorist faction for a work of fiction is a lot more compelling than using the same old tired Arab/Islamic terrorist model everyone imagines (An example from H.A.W.X. comes to mind where the PMC Artemus Global Security essentially turns terrorist comes to mind), but I admit they could have done it better.
As for the Russia-Georgia thing; I don't really keep up with the news since I find it to mostly be sensationalist bullshit in one way or another, so I don't really have an opinion on the whole thing. I guess that's one way of remaining neutral?
I just try and switch my brain off when it comes to things like this, though, because inevitably there are people who are going to be really biased one way or the other, so I believe that in this case it's just better to try and not argue over it for the most part.
Like I said, though, I haven't played MW2, so I don't know exactly what IW might have done to cause the situation, or what else they included that might somewhat offset things that people are offended about. I'm just going on other people's words, which is in itself a bad idea since people are bout to overstate some things, understate some things, omit details, make shit up, exaggerate... all that lovely stuff that fills me with contempt and makes me very distrustful towards my fellow man in general. Things could be better than they are being made out to be, or they could be worse. I don't know. And if you really are boycotting it, chances are you don't know the situation 100% either. It might not necessarily make you wrong, but there may be something there you don't know about that makes things not quite as bad.
So, until the price drops severely and I actually do decide to buy the damn thing (I guess I'm boycotting it until either IW fix the PC version, or it comes down to budget price); Sometimes it's better to just not think about these things.
Fuck you IW and Activision [http://www.gamereplays.org/modernwarfare2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=555175]
That is so damn retarded, you can skip it and even if you decide to go through it for the story you don't even have to shoot at the citizens, I hate stupid people ruining creativity in games.
EDIT: to what you quoted to me.
If you actually played through the level and realized how it contributed to the overal story even you would call it creative, but because you are ignorant to the overal plot you wouldn't know that.
Really? A work of fiction is bullshit? Congradulations captain, you've just been promoted to Admiral Obvious. Where in the title do you see "based on actual events"? Why are you making such a hissy fit about it when, again, I've never heard of anyone make a big fuss about the many American deaths potrayed in the first one. But thats not my point, my point is that if you don't like it, don't play it, and to not critisize a work of pure fiction. I'm not offended by the rasist McDonalds commercials in Japan, why should you be offended by a fake pixelated attack that didn't potray any real person.Lord_Gremlin said:
EDIT: to what you quoted to me.
If you actually played through the level and realized how it contributed to the overal story even you would call it creative, but because you are ignorant to the overal plot you wouldn't know that.
Russia has terrorists. Honestly. People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
This happened 7 years ago.
Sure, they might not be "Russian," but they live in what is called "Russia." The same way the Armenian terrorists in Turkey live in Turkey, but are Armenian. The same way Muslim terrorists in Serbia live in Serbia but aren't Serbs. They are still terrorists residing in that country.
Stop arguing semantics.
But the point being is, it's a video game. You are portraying an American CIA agent, working deep undercover for a terrorist who is currently working in Russia who was hired by an American general. If that doesn't say more about America than it does about Russia I don't know what to tell you. As an American it tells me that we are an overly militant country where people will go to any and all means to "protect" us by stripping away our civil rights. They do this by playing on our fears, or in extreme cases in Call of Duty or half the Tom Clancy books ever written by creating a war. It's just like 1984, where the people are told they are in perpetual war to CONTROL them. Honestly, I thought the plot for this regarding how it related to CoD4 was stupid as fuck. I thought the story was overly convoluted, and attempted to tell too much far too quickly. It lacked the finesse that we were given in CoD4.
I won't deny the airport scene is purely for, this, the discussion, and the news coverage, and the whole scene that it has caused. It's a business maxim, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succ%C3%A8s_de_scandale) Have you noticed how you don't see heavy advertising on TV? This is why, they don't have to pay anyone to get on TV now.
And what Srkkl or whatever above me said.
And I didn't buy the game either. I'm not buying a PC game when they neutered multiplayer, nor is this game worth 60$ for just the singleplayer.
And anyone who is bitching at Russian invading Georgia, who resides in any "Coalition" country, namely the US or UK, shut the fuck up. We had less reason to invade Iraq, and did so based on lies and deception. Russia was defending South Ossetia, which is seeking independence from Georgia. Sure, Russia was heavy handed in their invasion, but you can't claim we weren't in our invasions either. Pot, meet Kettle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
This happened 7 years ago.
Sure, they might not be "Russian," but they live in what is called "Russia." The same way the Armenian terrorists in Turkey live in Turkey, but are Armenian. The same way Muslim terrorists in Serbia live in Serbia but aren't Serbs. They are still terrorists residing in that country.
Stop arguing semantics.
But the point being is, it's a video game. You are portraying an American CIA agent, working deep undercover for a terrorist who is currently working in Russia who was hired by an American general. If that doesn't say more about America than it does about Russia I don't know what to tell you. As an American it tells me that we are an overly militant country where people will go to any and all means to "protect" us by stripping away our civil rights. They do this by playing on our fears, or in extreme cases in Call of Duty or half the Tom Clancy books ever written by creating a war. It's just like 1984, where the people are told they are in perpetual war to CONTROL them. Honestly, I thought the plot for this regarding how it related to CoD4 was stupid as fuck. I thought the story was overly convoluted, and attempted to tell too much far too quickly. It lacked the finesse that we were given in CoD4.
I won't deny the airport scene is purely for, this, the discussion, and the news coverage, and the whole scene that it has caused. It's a business maxim, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succ%C3%A8s_de_scandale) Have you noticed how you don't see heavy advertising on TV? This is why, they don't have to pay anyone to get on TV now.
And what Srkkl or whatever above me said.
And I didn't buy the game either. I'm not buying a PC game when they neutered multiplayer, nor is this game worth 60$ for just the singleplayer.
And anyone who is bitching at Russian invading Georgia, who resides in any "Coalition" country, namely the US or UK, shut the fuck up. We had less reason to invade Iraq, and did so based on lies and deception. Russia was defending South Ossetia, which is seeking independence from Georgia. Sure, Russia was heavy handed in their invasion, but you can't claim we weren't in our invasions either. Pot, meet Kettle.
If nothing else, the game made me feel bad for killing Russians. But when they all handed my ass to me many many MANY times, I stopped caring.
Yep, seen that before. Never underestimate hackers - the truly creative people.Chaos Marine said:
So, all those stupid and ignorant people will skip this scene? I doubt it. And making a disgusting scene which offend people - is not being creative. It's being a douche-bag.Srkkl said:
Oh, give it a rest Russia. It's a work of complete fiction with plot holes you can pilot a hind through.
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Besides, I found the scene chilling and powerful. Playing into your cover and gunning down civilians because you think it will be for the greater good of bringing down his entire organization - I had to resist the urge to turn the gun on Makarov the entire time, telling myself the civilians were all going to die anyway. It sent chills down my spine the entire time.
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Besides, I found the scene chilling and powerful. Playing into your cover and gunning down civilians because you think it will be for the greater good of bringing down his entire organization - I had to resist the urge to turn the gun on Makarov the entire time, telling myself the civilians were all going to die anyway. It sent chills down my spine the entire time.
No, Russia is doing the right thing. It may not be because of the reasons I want to, but it still is the right thing. I say ban the game everywhere.
Ban it so that Infinity Ward may learn something from it and stop being assholes. It seems their little pathetic stunt to gain publicity is backfiring.
Good.
Ban it so that Infinity Ward may learn something from it and stop being assholes. It seems their little pathetic stunt to gain publicity is backfiring.
Good.
If you perceive reality through the colored glass of video games, I feel bad for you. And this country, as you may be representative of a larger group.gilthanan said:
Truthfully though, you probably view the game through the colored lens of your own politics. I'm pretty sure the American general was out for revenge against the ultranationalists who portrayed Zhakaev as a hero; you know, the guy who nuked 30,000 of his soldiers and an untold number of Middle-Easterners "While the World did nothing".
Are... Are you me? That's pretty much my reaction.Sparrow said:
Shepherd was given nuance, abackstory and reasons for doing things. Marakov was given a "he kills shit because he's evil" line and sent out to kill civilians. This means that, let's face it, Americans are portrayed as bad guys in this game for a reason, while Russians are civilian-killing, baby-eating monsters "because they're Commies."
Meh, roll on #3 when a Brit, a Scot and a Russian will slaughter both armies and proclaim Glasgow, London and Dublin (representing all of Ireland, I want the RoI in on it as well!) as the triple-joint capitals of the world, with Cardiff as the admin centre.
Exactly. It's sad that people would get offended, but it's stupid because everyone knew it would happen. IW aren't stupid for having the idea, but to publish it despite how bloody obvious the reaction would be says it all about them.Hardcore_gamer said:
While that may be true, video games, writers, and movies often times will have social commentary and a motive behind the stories they tell.cobrausn said:
And yes, you are right about Shepard, but with the various CIA scandals and the military-industrial complex that has dominated the country in the past and arguably still today make what Shepard has done easier than it should be, and far more believable from the audiences perspective.
Indeed got the same feeling right after i killed the civilians. I was like "What have i done" feeling. Great work by the developers!VanityGirl said:
Arent we forgetting the fact that in that "Terminal Massacre" the Russians where being murdered by RUSSIANS.
Thats happens here in America too you know.
Thats happens here in America too you know.