Mojang Offered Up Scrolls Trademark, Bethsoft Said "No"
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Did Tim Langdell get a job at BetheZen or something? This sounds like it's got his fat greasy fingers all over it.
Zenimax is home to the biggest cunts in the industry, even more so than Activision, and EA in some cases.
So if you don't buy Skyrim just because of this reason alone, you are ignorant, and stupid. Bethesda's development team hasn't got nothing at all to do with this.
So if you don't buy Skyrim just because of this reason alone, you are ignorant, and stupid. Bethesda's development team hasn't got nothing at all to do with this.
What the hell is the world coming to? Honestly.... Is every gaming company out there slowly turning into activision or something?
The actual reason for this is that Bethesda actually modeled the legal system in oblivion after their own internal system. It's really quite tragic how many of their employees have been fined/arrested after accidentally touching someone else's mug in their break room.
You have to remember its the use of the word "Scrolls" that Bethesda is upset about. Not trademarking it, or adding more to the title, does not change that they are using the word.
This would be like copying someone's homework, then offering to put it on different colored paper. Not really the issue.
I'm not saying I agree with Bethesda's side in this case (I actually think it's pretty stupid), but this particular story doesn't surprise me. They're not interested in whether or not you're trademarking the title, Notch, so why are you shocked that they turned down your offer.
Really and honestly, I'd like to hear Bethesda's side in this. Notch has been very vocal about the whole thing, so of course everyone is dog-piling on the band wagon, but we really haven't heard anything from the other side.
It kind of reminds me of the Extra Credits thing that happened here. Everyone was up in arms from what James had said, until the Escapist chimed in with their side. Then everyone realized it wasn't that one-sided.
This would be like copying someone's homework, then offering to put it on different colored paper. Not really the issue.
I'm not saying I agree with Bethesda's side in this case (I actually think it's pretty stupid), but this particular story doesn't surprise me. They're not interested in whether or not you're trademarking the title, Notch, so why are you shocked that they turned down your offer.
Really and honestly, I'd like to hear Bethesda's side in this. Notch has been very vocal about the whole thing, so of course everyone is dog-piling on the band wagon, but we really haven't heard anything from the other side.
It kind of reminds me of the Extra Credits thing that happened here. Everyone was up in arms from what James had said, until the Escapist chimed in with their side. Then everyone realized it wasn't that one-sided.
After hearing this, this case is out the fucking window. They won't come to a compromise that involves GETTING WHAT THEY ASKED FOR!
I'm not going to pretend I know anything about copyright law, but to me, it makes sense that Zenimax is going to continue on with this case, since one of the central points of all of this is not only to stop Mojang from applying for the Scrolls trademark, but to protect their own trademark, that being The Elder Scrolls. Couldn't this set a harmful precedent for Zenimax if they just let this one slide and allow Mojang to call their game "Scrolls: whateverwhatever". I mean, speaking from a strictly logical point of view, there is essentially no difference between the title "Scrolls" and "Scrolls: etcetc". Scrolls is still at the forefront of the title, and as a result it's going to stand out as the title's most distinguishable facet.
What's to stop a future developer from naming their title "The something Scrolls", and then citing the Mojang precedent as justification for its relative closeness to Zenimax's "Elder Scrolls"?. Sure, Zenimax would still own the trademark, but since a precedent had already been established that Zenimax is relatively lenient on the enforcement of its trademark, a judge may act in a more lenient fashion towards any future developers wanting to adopt a title which was similar to "The Elder Scrolls". I don't think "Oh, well, this is different" would be a very effective legal defense on the part of Zenimax should something like this occur.
Which leads to my main point - people, calm the fuck down. This is a complex legal issue, and it is simply another case of lawyers doing the job for which they are fucking paid. The fact that people are so blind to all of this and are so ostensibly eager to jump on their anti-corporate bandwagons is laughable, and it conflicts so strikingly with the rational, level-headed mindset I'm sure many people on this website would like to believe they possess.
What's to stop a future developer from naming their title "The something Scrolls", and then citing the Mojang precedent as justification for its relative closeness to Zenimax's "Elder Scrolls"?. Sure, Zenimax would still own the trademark, but since a precedent had already been established that Zenimax is relatively lenient on the enforcement of its trademark, a judge may act in a more lenient fashion towards any future developers wanting to adopt a title which was similar to "The Elder Scrolls". I don't think "Oh, well, this is different" would be a very effective legal defense on the part of Zenimax should something like this occur.
Which leads to my main point - people, calm the fuck down. This is a complex legal issue, and it is simply another case of lawyers doing the job for which they are fucking paid. The fact that people are so blind to all of this and are so ostensibly eager to jump on their anti-corporate bandwagons is laughable, and it conflicts so strikingly with the rational, level-headed mindset I'm sure many people on this website would like to believe they possess.
I think people are missing the point of the article.
Notch - while was setting himself up for failure by trademarking a word - has announced that he is WILLING to give up the trademark case so to settle the debacle, yet Bethesda is still determined to sue Notch for the sake of the trademark, WHICH HE WANTED TO GIVE UP ANYWAYS!
Notch - while was setting himself up for failure by trademarking a word - has announced that he is WILLING to give up the trademark case so to settle the debacle, yet Bethesda is still determined to sue Notch for the sake of the trademark, WHICH HE WANTED TO GIVE UP ANYWAYS!
Ughh, this whole thing is getting out of hand. As has been said many times before, if you dislike Zenimax's actions against Mojang you can just buy Skyrim used. Personally I know nothing about copyright law and either way I've already pre-ordered the game and will be playing it on day one.
He may have coined the word "droid" but it was used as a slang term for "android"(to the best of my knowledge) a human-like robot which was popularized by sci-fi writer in the 50's. True, some weren't humanoid like R2-D2 I'm pretty sure he got it from there. Not quite the same but I hope my analogy comes across well enough.DasDestroyer said: