Peter Molyneux was behind some really good games. The Populus series, Syndicate, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper for example. It's just that much like Richard Garriot, he succumbed to his own press and thinks he's better than he really is. He needs to remember why people enjoyed the games he was behind instead of saying "I'm giving you a game! worship me!"TwoSidesOneCoin said:
Molyneux: Godus Is "Invest-To-Play," Not F2P
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Fable isn't why people flood to this guy. Populous and Dungeon Keeper are his success stories.TwoSidesOneCoin said:
So, it's an entire article dedicated to Molyneux talking semantics.
Even the author of the source admits difficulty in getting a straight answer from ol Pete the Liar.
There is nothing innately evil about the F2P game model but it is a service-centric model, which means the player is far more dependent on the developer than in a classic game. And because of that dependency, it's both easier and more tempting to just jerk customers around for more money; a fact that's being exploited more and more as time goes on.
The timing and subject of this article is no accident; Pete is doing his best to distance his game from the recent fallout of the Dungeon Keeper fiasco (which was more of the proverbial "last straw" than anything; this freemium gouging shit has had a reckoning long overdue).
(Speaking of Dungeon Keeper...that was no accident either. The market let it happen.)
But back to the subject: Why the name change from ol' Pete?
To divert attention away from the growing stigma associated with F2P, nothing more.
Attention, that the genre is rightly earning right now as more companies try to pull this shit.
(which I have some issue with because there are legitimately good F2P games out there)
And I imagine that's especially important for a man who, not too long ago, sold a social experiment that was literally nothing but micro-transactions. Pete's proven how invested he is into exploiting the model.
Even the author of the source admits difficulty in getting a straight answer from ol Pete the Liar.
We know the model, Pete, and a good number of us know how investment models work.Mark Brown said:
There is nothing innately evil about the F2P game model but it is a service-centric model, which means the player is far more dependent on the developer than in a classic game. And because of that dependency, it's both easier and more tempting to just jerk customers around for more money; a fact that's being exploited more and more as time goes on.
The timing and subject of this article is no accident; Pete is doing his best to distance his game from the recent fallout of the Dungeon Keeper fiasco (which was more of the proverbial "last straw" than anything; this freemium gouging shit has had a reckoning long overdue).
(Speaking of Dungeon Keeper...that was no accident either. The market let it happen.)
But back to the subject: Why the name change from ol' Pete?
To divert attention away from the growing stigma associated with F2P, nothing more.
Attention, that the genre is rightly earning right now as more companies try to pull this shit.
(which I have some issue with because there are legitimately good F2P games out there)
And I imagine that's especially important for a man who, not too long ago, sold a social experiment that was literally nothing but micro-transactions. Pete's proven how invested he is into exploiting the model.
Yes I'm not 100% certain but I believe this is where he first fell off the wagon. Molyneux promised the moon with Fable, which was a good game but didn't deliver anywhere near what he promised. Something like a completely dynamic game world and perhaps the best RPG of all time.WeepingAngels said:
I know Molyneux seems to have a very big mouth according to the past, but if you look closely at the dev times given for Fable, you'll see that they get lesser and lesser every game. So, I'm betting Molyneux actually really did believe he could have delivered on at least a lot of his promises during Fable 2 and 3's development but then Microsoft kept coming along and cutting his dev time.
It will be interesting to see if he'll be able to deliver on half of what he says now that he can set his own deadlines.
It will be interesting to see if he'll be able to deliver on half of what he says now that he can set his own deadlines.
Call it "Custard pie fights with christopher walken" for all I care it's still bullshit. You know what we can do with the money we have. Find old games, and good ones at that, and just buy them. RCT, X-wing, IL2 Sturmovik, Call Of Duty 4, From Dust, and countless other fully fledged experiences are out there and they don't hide behind bullshit paywalls.
You know what this is? This is hostage gaming. It's literally holding the good part of the game hostage until either you pay up or the ransomer gets tired and goes to sleep and finally lets a good part pass. And the worst part is how people keep buying into it. It won't do good to post a warning here. Everyone here is already perfectly aware of how bullshit this is. The people out there won't see this message. They're too busy doing other things.
But one thing I do know for sure is that this is not gaming. This is hostage negotiation.
You know what this is? This is hostage gaming. It's literally holding the good part of the game hostage until either you pay up or the ransomer gets tired and goes to sleep and finally lets a good part pass. And the worst part is how people keep buying into it. It won't do good to post a warning here. Everyone here is already perfectly aware of how bullshit this is. The people out there won't see this message. They're too busy doing other things.
But one thing I do know for sure is that this is not gaming. This is hostage negotiation.
Who knows, maybe he GENUINELY means INVEST. You just plop a few dollars early on, and then GROW. and GROW MORE. AND GROW MORE EMERALDS! MORE OF THEM, ENJOY BEING DROWNING IN THEM WHEN YOU INVEST EARLY ON FOR THE GROWTH! ENJOY ITTTTTTT! Because, if you don't pay a few dollars early on, you loose time that you could be using GROWING THE EMERALDS! They only grow linearly, unfortunately.
Seems like a fairly easy model, to be honest.
Seems like a fairly easy model, to be honest.
