So if your Dad's a cop? No daddie!?rokkolpo said:what a sad mother.
you need to earn your kids respect the right way.
and get an occasional kick from dad.
that'll do it. no police involved.
Umm... he's 14. If she didn't buy it (and there's no father in the picture, I'm assuming, since she says she's alone)... how did he get it? I understand that older friends could have bought it but she has the right to just take the game itself away, as it's rated M. When I was 14, I wasn't allowed to play M games, and neither was my brother, although he does now at 16 because I feel he's mature enough for it.Andy Chalk said:He had apparently been playing Grand Theft Auto [http://www.rockstargames.com/iv], an "exceedingly violent" game that Mejia said she strongly disapproved of. "I would never buy that kind of video. No way," she said. "I called [the police] because if you don't respect your mother, what are you going to do in your life?"
As much as I did fancy having a go its got nothing to do with being uneducated or bigotted. Its about the fact that it reads like she is seeing games as unholy and has to claim that even with Jesus' support the evil of video games is still corrupting her son. As that is insane, she therefore loses credability and is laughable.mattman106 said:The DSM said:"I have the support of my church"
When you read that line, you can hear credibility die.
NAnd your point is? She has the support of a community she is involved in and that is somehow wrong or is it just that you guys are uneducated bigots and fancied having a go?Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
Never mind.Andy Chalk said:"I have support from my church, ...
Nope, not wrong at all. That's what first popped into my head.Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
I'm not mocking her religious beliefs, it's just every time someone says "I've got the support of my church", they're always referring to the people who think everything is deep-rooted in satanism, or because a game is violent, it's gonna turn our kids into serial killers. I went to Catholic school when I was a kid, and they tried to pull the same crap with me when I played Yu-Gi-Oh!. "Oh they're satanic, you're not allowed to have them, get rid of them." I'm all for having beliefs, but I can't stand that nonsense.Flipscore said:Good thing you're so much more tolerant than the religious people, otherwise you would just judge them based on their WAIT A MINUTE.Xeros said:"I have the support of my church". /Sigh... Well, you don't have mine.
Anyone who decides to not listen to this person or any person based on personal religious beliefs is someone who's opinion is inconsequential. Without the respect to listen society will never change.
With all that said, there may be some deeper issues inside this story. Obviously nobody's first instinct when their child won't go to bed is "Call the Police." Luckily, no one on these forums will give her any benefit of the doubt, so I'll do it instead.
You know how there are some bad people out in the world? Well sometimes bad people used to be bad kids. Some bad kids live in homes where the authority level is low, so they adopt an attitude of superiority. This is very bad, typically for submissive mothers. So you take a jerk kid and a Mom who showers her little baby with love and he turns into a jerkass who doesn't listen to anything she says and treats her like crap.
Their differing personalities make this difficult to rectify, as she won't speak up to him and he won't listen to her. Usually in these scenarios it's an only child vs. single parent.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that their repeated conflict culminated when he wouldn't listen to her (again) and she literally felt powerless and was forced to contact an outside power. Someone with force that the child would listen to. The Police fit that role nicely.
Also everyone here needs to stop with the crap about not knowing her son purchased the game. You aren't raising her child, you don't know what she is dealing with. It is entirely possible that this child purchased both the console and the games. We don't know the full story.
The last thing I have to say is that this really isn't about the game at all and we all know it. So why is it being discussed on this site or any other site? This is none of our business.
I want you to answer me one question: Where in the article does it say anything about her thinking video games are evil, or where does it say her decision was based on her faith?Disaster Button said:As much as I did fancy having a go its got nothing to do with being uneducated or bigotted. Its about the fact that it reads like she is seeing games as unholy and has to claim that even with Jesus' support the evil of video games is still corrupting her son. As that is insane, she therefore loses credability and is laughable.
Thank fuck their is someone on here who doesn't just go 'religion lulz' and also is able to look at the bigger picture. My mum is a single parent and she can't always discipline my sister as my dad used to be the disciplinarian in our house. If this women is in the same situation and her son is a shit all the time she will contact an authority figure to rectify the situation - which in this case happens to be the Police.Flipscore said:Good thing you're so much more tolerant than the religious people, otherwise you would just judge them based on their WAIT A MINUTE.Xeros said:"I have the support of my church". /Sigh... Well, you don't have mine.
Anyone who decides to not listen to this person or any person based on personal religious beliefs is someone who's opinion is inconsequential. Without the respect to listen society will never change.
With all that said, there may be some deeper issues inside this story. Obviously nobody's first instinct when their child won't go to bed is "Call the Police." Luckily, no one on these forums will give her any benefit of the doubt, so I'll do it instead.
You know how there are some bad people out in the world? Well sometimes bad people used to be bad kids. Some bad kids live in homes where the authority level is low, so they adopt an attitude of superiority. This is very bad, typically for submissive mothers. So you take a jerk kid and a Mom who showers her little baby with love and he turns into a jerkass who doesn't listen to anything she says and treats her like crap.
Their differing personalities make this difficult to rectify, as she won't speak up to him and he won't listen to her. Usually in these scenarios it's an only child vs. single parent.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that their repeated conflict culminated when he wouldn't listen to her (again) and she literally felt powerless and was forced to contact an outside power. Someone with force that the child would listen to. The Police fit that role nicely.
Also everyone here needs to stop with the crap about not knowing her son purchased the game. You aren't raising her child, you don't know what she is dealing with. It is entirely possible that this child purchased both the console and the games. We don't know the full story.
The last thing I have to say is that this really isn't about the game at all and we all know it. So why is it being discussed on this site or any other site? This is none of our business.
Yes, it is wrong. There are a few wack-job radical religious people, that make headlines because of their stupidity. Then it gives the rest of us a bad name. I go to church (altough not recently...hmmmm) and I believe in God, but I will play the shit out of Gears of War or Saint's Row (not GTA, because I don't really care for them, but that is another thread).Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
No kidding?chronobreak said:I already have friends on this forum, I'm really not too worried about making any more.
What does what I said have to do with open-mindedness, exactly?
I'm under the presumption you're not if you base your opinion on a single, obviously biased, one sided, sensationalist news article.I offered my opinion on what she should do. Does that mean I am automatically not open to any other opinions?
I would've thought you would've realised this was a question to the mother i.e. how did he get hold of it? You weren't a good parent, that's why.On your second point...
I fully agree with you. But this wasn't the viewpoint you gave in your initial post. You emphasised, quite clearly, that a 14 year-old playing a videogame at 2:30am on a Saturday morning makes him a "little shit... a brat" who "would go psycho on her" if she didn't call the police.The information put out there is the kid didn't listen to his mother. The mother called the police on him. As I already stated, the mother clearly did the wrong thing, but on the other side of the fence the kid wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing either.
These are all valid points. Bear in mind, I don't think everyone is arguing the same things though. Flipscore has brought up a very good context that is more than believable, but the issue here is, in fact, the religious aspect of it. The fact that the mother uses the support of her church as JUSTIFICATION for calling the police shows a certain level of self-righteousness that wouldn't exist in the mother in your example. I do believe the child is out of control, possibly owing to something along the lines of (and I'm guessing too) the lack of a father, but to blame those of us who believe the "support of the church" quote is grounds for loss of credibility is to blame us (some of us) for something we weren't arguing. It's not because she is Christian (according to me and some others), and not even because she might be very very Christian. It's because of her attempt to USE the church to her advantage in justifying her poor parenting skills.Xeros said:I'm not mocking her religious beliefs, it's just every time someone says "I've got the support of my church", they're always referring to the people who think everything is deep-rooted in satanism, or because a game is violent, it's gonna turn our kids into serial killers. I went to Catholic school when I was a kid, and they tried to pull the same crap with me when I played Yu-Gi-Oh!. "Oh they're satanic, you're not allowed to have them, get rid of them." I'm all for having beliefs, but I can't stand that nonsense.Flipscore said:Good thing you're so much more tolerant than the religious people, otherwise you would just judge them based on their WAIT A MINUTE.Xeros said:"I have the support of my church". /Sigh... Well, you don't have mine.
Anyone who decides to not listen to this person or any person based on personal religious beliefs is someone who's opinion is inconsequential. Without the respect to listen society will never change.
With all that said, there may be some deeper issues inside this story. Obviously nobody's first instinct when their child won't go to bed is "Call the Police." Luckily, no one on these forums will give her any benefit of the doubt, so I'll do it instead.
You know how there are some bad people out in the world? Well sometimes bad people used to be bad kids. Some bad kids live in homes where the authority level is low, so they adopt an attitude of superiority. This is very bad, typically for submissive mothers. So you take a jerk kid and a Mom who showers her little baby with love and he turns into a jerkass who doesn't listen to anything she says and treats her like crap.
Their differing personalities make this difficult to rectify, as she won't speak up to him and he won't listen to her. Usually in these scenarios it's an only child vs. single parent.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that their repeated conflict culminated when he wouldn't listen to her (again) and she literally felt powerless and was forced to contact an outside power. Someone with force that the child would listen to. The Police fit that role nicely.
Also everyone here needs to stop with the crap about not knowing her son purchased the game. You aren't raising her child, you don't know what she is dealing with. It is entirely possible that this child purchased both the console and the games. We don't know the full story.
The last thing I have to say is that this really isn't about the game at all and we all know it. So why is it being discussed on this site or any other site? This is none of our business.
Wow, ok. Stop, right there Mr Extremist. You can't take one post and explode into evidence that proves the entire forum is full of biggotry and ignorance, which ironically enough is extremely ignorant in itself.chronobreak said:I want you to answer me one question: Where in the article does it say anything about her thinking video games are evil, or where does it say her decision was based on her faith?Disaster Button said:As much as I did fancy having a go its got nothing to do with being uneducated or bigotted. Its about the fact that it reads like she is seeing games as unholy and has to claim that even with Jesus' support the evil of video games is still corrupting her son. As that is insane, she therefore loses credability and is laughable.
This is getting out of hand. People that want to make these assumptions should be moderated. The level of bigotry and ignorance on this forum is way out of control, and nobody seems to want to step in to take a stand. I have been in the R+P section for a few days, debating with people there, and I thought that section was bad. It's tame compared to the comments going on here.
I joined this community because it stood out from others on the net, because of the great userbase here. I don't know what has happened, but it's starting to become like the Wild West, and I no longer feel like I am welcome here, because of my faith. After all, if you are so quick to admonish some woman in Boston because she makes a small statement about seeking help from her church, why would anybody think I have any credibility in anything I say? It is clear the majority of this community does not want Christians around, and intend to be completely disrespectful towards them.