yeah, my sentiments exactly, i mean really who has NEVER pulled an all-nighter before...i mean REALLY.Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
yeah, my sentiments exactly, i mean really who has NEVER pulled an all-nighter before...i mean REALLY.Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
In Bethany Beach, Delaware, there has never been a crime ever. The police department is so rich because the ticket people going half a mile over the speed limit.Jon Etheridge said:Sounds like this lady has "Soccer Mom" written all over her. I'm sure the kid was being a prick as well but it sounds like neither of these idiots could calmly come to a solution. The cops actually responded to this shit? Your tax dollars at work.
And then put his games in the microwave to top it off.Flos said:Now, y'see, she should have just picked up the console and thrown it out the window.
That's parenting.
That's a good point and I'm well aware that certain aspects groups can be exaggerated by people who take things to the extreme. But this is a somewhat extreme case. She rallied her church/community together, and called the police, to stop her son playing a video game, to 'save' her son when all he did was pull an all nighter, who hasn't done that before?AnarchistAbe said:Yes, it is wrong. There are a few wack-job radical religious people, that make headlines because of their stupidity. Then it gives the rest of us a bad name. I go to church (altough not recently...hmmmm) and I believe in God, but I will play the shit out of Gears of War or Saint's Row (not GTA, because I don't really care for them, but that is another thread).Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?
Anyway, my point is that a few radicals can really make an entire group seem like something they are not. Just ask any Muslim person....
Flipscore, you accuse us of assuming, yet you yourself are assuming the mother had any sensibility in this case. You don't call the COPS of all people if your son is playing video games too long, and you cant control him. Its called bad parenting, and the mother should know better than to use an emergency service to control her kid. I mean, what the hell?Xeros said:I'm not mocking her religious beliefs, it's just every time someone says "I've got the support of my church", they're always referring to the people who think everything is deep-rooted in satanism, or because a game is violent, it's gonna turn our kids into serial killers. I went to Catholic school when I was a kid, and they tried to pull the same crap with me when I played Yu-Gi-Oh!. "Oh they're satanic, you're not allowed to have them, get rid of them." I'm all for having beliefs, but I can't stand that nonsense.Flipscore said:Good thing you're so much more tolerant than the religious people, otherwise you would just judge them based on their WAIT A MINUTE.Xeros said:"I have the support of my church". /Sigh... Well, you don't have mine.
Anyone who decides to not listen to this person or any person based on personal religious beliefs is someone who's opinion is inconsequential. Without the respect to listen society will never change.
With all that said, there may be some deeper issues inside this story. Obviously nobody's first instinct when their child won't go to bed is "Call the Police." Luckily, no one on these forums will give her any benefit of the doubt, so I'll do it instead.
You know how there are some bad people out in the world? Well sometimes bad people used to be bad kids. Some bad kids live in homes where the authority level is low, so they adopt an attitude of superiority. This is very bad, typically for submissive mothers. So you take a jerk kid and a Mom who showers her little baby with love and he turns into a jerkass who doesn't listen to anything she says and treats her like crap.
Their differing personalities make this difficult to rectify, as she won't speak up to him and he won't listen to her. Usually in these scenarios it's an only child vs. single parent.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that their repeated conflict culminated when he wouldn't listen to her (again) and she literally felt powerless and was forced to contact an outside power. Someone with force that the child would listen to. The Police fit that role nicely.
Also everyone here needs to stop with the crap about not knowing her son purchased the game. You aren't raising her child, you don't know what she is dealing with. It is entirely possible that this child purchased both the console and the games. We don't know the full story.
The last thing I have to say is that this really isn't about the game at all and we all know it. So why is it being discussed on this site or any other site? This is none of our business.
Yeah... that's a sentiment that hard not to agree with. There's a lot of people here.Disaster Button said:Wow, ok. Stop, right there Mr Extremist. You can't take one post and explode into evidence that proves the entire forum is full of biggotry and ignorance, which ironically enough is extremely ignorant in itself.
Now to correct you. I didn't say it said that once. I said it "read" like that so let me explain what that means, it means that that is what I got from it, my interpretation. Which, apparently I am not alone in thinking judging my the posts here, some of which are just made to laugh at her, and other posts which are more serious. This does not by any means mean that I think someone's viewpoint is worthless because they have faith, unless it is something along the lines of "Don't worry, God will save your endangered family" and even that that's simply because I'm Athiest.
So my adivce to you is to not take things to seriously and learn to appreciate a little goddamn humour, if you said something about Athiesm or made fun of my beliefs in the same manner I wouldn't over react like a psychopath and launch into some self righteous speech about how the world is bad like you.
But then the mother wouldn't have been able to sleep. I mean come on, a PS3 under your pillow, that's gotta be a painful nightCharli said:It's called confiscation you ridiculous over-caffinated, religous harpie.
Worked on me when I was up playing Final Fantasy all night.
Mum just took the playstation off me and put it under her pillow. Told me to go the feck to bed and I could play it at the weekend.
Yeah I may have been sulking about it as a kid but dayum, it works.
HardRockSamurai said:I really shouldn't be laughing at this (it's actually quite disturbing if you think about it.)
How is this article biased or sensationalist? Because the kid gets hold of a game, the mother is a bad parent? Everything the kid does is the mothers fault, there is no personal accountability? Did you ever do anything bad when you were a kid, and if so, was that a direct result of your parents not being good enough?Terramax said:snip
How am I an extremist? You have the evidence in front of you. Sure it's not the WHOLE forum community, I am not an idiot, I can tell the difference. I don't go around saying if an Atheist has an opinion on something it must be wrong because they don't believe in God, not only because it's an ignorant position to take, but because it is intolerant of others and that kind of person has no place in a discussion forum, because if you're going to outright dismiss someones claims over something like that you are certainly not interested in having any meaningful discussion.Disaster Button said:Wow, ok. Stop, right there Mr Extremist. You can't take one post and explode into evidence that proves the entire forum is full of biggotry and ignorance, which ironically enough is extremely ignorant in itself.
Now to correct you. I didn't say it said that once. I said it "read" like that so let me explain what that means, it means that that is what I got from it, my interpretation. Which, apparently I am not alone in thinking judging my the posts here, some of which are just made to laugh at her, and other posts which are more serious. This does not by any means mean that I think someone's viewpoint is worthless because they have faith, unless it is something along the lines of "Don't worry, God will save your endangered family" and even that that's simply because I'm Athiest.
So my adivce to you is to not take things to seriously and learn to appreciate a little goddamn humour, if you said something about Athiesm or made fun of my beliefs in the same manner I wouldn't over react like a psychopath and launch into some self righteous speech about how the world is bad like you.
This post reminds me of a younger me. Of course I gave up on trying to get any shred of understanding or tolerance out of this mass of antagonistic and ignorant folk quite some time ago. Now I just come here on occasion for some videos, the few good articles, and to look down on the forum community as the giant pile of hypocrites they are.chronobreak said:I want you to answer me one question: Where in the article does it say anything about her thinking video games are evil, or where does it say her decision was based on her faith?Disaster Button said:As much as I did fancy having a go its got nothing to do with being uneducated or bigotted. Its about the fact that it reads like she is seeing games as unholy and has to claim that even with Jesus' support the evil of video games is still corrupting her son. As that is insane, she therefore loses credability and is laughable.
This is getting out of hand. People that want to make these assumptions should be moderated. The level of bigotry and ignorance on this forum is way out of control, and nobody seems to want to step in to take a stand. I have been in the R+P section for a few days, debating with people there, and I thought that section was bad. It's tame compared to the comments going on here.
I joined this community because it stood out from others on the net, because of the great userbase here. I don't know what has happened, but it's starting to become like the Wild West, and I no longer feel like I am welcome here, because of my faith. After all, if you are so quick to admonish some woman in Boston because she makes a small statement about seeking help from her church, why would anybody think I have any credibility in anything I say? It is clear the majority of this community does not want Christians around, and intend to be completely disrespectful towards them.
What SHE did is technically against the law, what he did wasn't. 911 isn't made for parents to get help with disciplining their children. And if she didn't approve of the game, how did he get it?chronobreak said:As a parent, I can only imagine what kind of little shit this kid must be and what he puts his poor mother through. She needs to mom up, and give the damn console away to someone, but if she has this much trouble disciplining her son maybe if she did that the kid would go psycho on her. She's probably afraid of him to some degree to let him walk all over her like that.
Also, from the looks of the story, she's a single mom. This kid is just a brat, too bad the cops couldn't take him away for a bit.
I can't help but feel that you are contributing to this. Yes, anonyminity can lead to stupidity, and stupidity can exist. So can conflicting viewpoints. So can trolling. But coming to a forum just to say "forums are stupid" reminds me of an alcoholic that comes to a fraternity party to complain about the quality of the beer.Taerdin said:This post reminds me of a younger me. Of course I gave up on trying to get any shred of understanding or tolerance out of this mass of antagonistic and ignorant folk quite some time ago. Now I just come here on occasion for some videos, the few good articles, and to look down on the forum community as the giant pile of hypocrites they are.chronobreak said:I want you to answer me one question: Where in the article does it say anything about her thinking video games are evil, or where does it say her decision was based on her faith?Disaster Button said:As much as I did fancy having a go its got nothing to do with being uneducated or bigotted. Its about the fact that it reads like she is seeing games as unholy and has to claim that even with Jesus' support the evil of video games is still corrupting her son. As that is insane, she therefore loses credability and is laughable.
This is getting out of hand. People that want to make these assumptions should be moderated. The level of bigotry and ignorance on this forum is way out of control, and nobody seems to want to step in to take a stand. I have been in the R+P section for a few days, debating with people there, and I thought that section was bad. It's tame compared to the comments going on here.
I joined this community because it stood out from others on the net, because of the great userbase here. I don't know what has happened, but it's starting to become like the Wild West, and I no longer feel like I am welcome here, because of my faith. After all, if you are so quick to admonish some woman in Boston because she makes a small statement about seeking help from her church, why would anybody think I have any credibility in anything I say? It is clear the majority of this community does not want Christians around, and intend to be completely disrespectful towards them.
"oh the media always labels games as evil! They just don't understand! If only they were less ignorant! Also this woman mentioned 'church' in this story so she is obviously crazy and thinks video games are the devil."
Its painful how easily you people find stupidity in others and yet never seem to notice the others finding just as much stupidity in you. No one is perfect, and everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt. Innocent before proven guilty? Apparently not. More like guilty before even proven guilty, that should be the new motto of the forums or something.
You came off as extremist because your denouncing the entire forum and calling them biggoted, especially when thats not the case, most of the time.chronobreak said:How is this article biased or sensationalist? Because the kid gets hold of a game, the mother is a bad parent? Everything the kid does is the mothers fault, there is no personal accountability? Did you ever do anything bad when you were a kid, and if so, was that a direct result of your parents not being good enough?Terramax said:snip
Yeah, when kids don't listen to their parents it makes them a brat. And I didn't say the kid was definetly going to go nuts on his mom, merely presented it as a possibility.How am I an extremist? You have the evidence in front of you. Sure it's not the WHOLE forum community, I am not an idiot, I can tell the difference. I don't go around saying if an Atheist has an opinion on something it must be wrong because they don't believe in God, not only because it's an ignorant position to take, but because it is intolerant of others and that kind of person has no place in a discussion forum, because if you're going to outright dismiss someones claims over something like that you are certainly not interested in having any meaningful discussion.Disaster Button said:Wow, ok. Stop, right there Mr Extremist. You can't take one post and explode into evidence that proves the entire forum is full of biggotry and ignorance, which ironically enough is extremely ignorant in itself.
Now to correct you. I didn't say it said that once. I said it "read" like that so let me explain what that means, it means that that is what I got from it, my interpretation. Which, apparently I am not alone in thinking judging my the posts here, some of which are just made to laugh at her, and other posts which are more serious. This does not by any means mean that I think someone's viewpoint is worthless because they have faith, unless it is something along the lines of "Don't worry, God will save your endangered family" and even that that's simply because I'm Athiest.
So my adivce to you is to not take things to seriously and learn to appreciate a little goddamn humour, if you said something about Athiesm or made fun of my beliefs in the same manner I wouldn't over react like a psychopath and launch into some self righteous speech about how the world is bad like you.
Enough people have already said that her viewpoint is worthless because she is a Christian. Read the thread. I can appreciate humor, but being a bigot and close-minded is not funny. It is not offering both sides a chance ot have a good chuckle, it is taking one group of people and saying that what they have to say doesn't matter. Jokes should be funny to both sides, and if it isn't it's just an attack.
Just because YOU wouldn't overeact does not mean other people won't or aren't warranted to.
And another thing: what the hell does "warranted to overreact" mean? Doesn't overreact imply that someone reacted more than warranted? Maybe "excused for overreacting" would make more sense. Though I don't think said person can be excused for her... potential... um... warranted overraction?Disaster Button said:You're extremist because your denouncing the entire forum and calling them biggoted, especially when thats not the case, most of the time.chronobreak said:How is this article biased or sensationalist? Because the kid gets hold of a game, the mother is a bad parent? Everything the kid does is the mothers fault, there is no personal accountability? Did you ever do anything bad when you were a kid, and if so, was that a direct result of your parents not being good enough?Terramax said:snip
Yeah, when kids don't listen to their parents it makes them a brat. And I didn't say the kid was definetly going to go nuts on his mom, merely presented it as a possibility.How am I an extremist? You have the evidence in front of you. Sure it's not the WHOLE forum community, I am not an idiot, I can tell the difference. I don't go around saying if an Atheist has an opinion on something it must be wrong because they don't believe in God, not only because it's an ignorant position to take, but because it is intolerant of others and that kind of person has no place in a discussion forum, because if you're going to outright dismiss someones claims over something like that you are certainly not interested in having any meaningful discussion.Disaster Button said:Wow, ok. Stop, right there Mr Extremist. You can't take one post and explode into evidence that proves the entire forum is full of biggotry and ignorance, which ironically enough is extremely ignorant in itself.
Now to correct you. I didn't say it said that once. I said it "read" like that so let me explain what that means, it means that that is what I got from it, my interpretation. Which, apparently I am not alone in thinking judging my the posts here, some of which are just made to laugh at her, and other posts which are more serious. This does not by any means mean that I think someone's viewpoint is worthless because they have faith, unless it is something along the lines of "Don't worry, God will save your endangered family" and even that that's simply because I'm Athiest.
So my adivce to you is to not take things to seriously and learn to appreciate a little goddamn humour, if you said something about Athiesm or made fun of my beliefs in the same manner I wouldn't over react like a psychopath and launch into some self righteous speech about how the world is bad like you.
Enough people have already said that her viewpoint is worthless because she is a Christian. Read the thread. I can appreciate humor, but being a bigot and close-minded is not funny. It is not offering both sides a chance ot have a good chuckle, it is taking one group of people and saying that what they have to say doesn't matter. Jokes should be funny to both sides, and if it isn't it's just an attack.
Just because YOU wouldn't overeact does not mean other people won't or aren't warranted to.
I also find it quite hard to make jokes about the entire religious community in one post, I work with that I'm giving. But rest assured I do find racist/sexist/anti-belief humour funny, when not made in an actual serious context, not because I am racist/exist/and anti-belief but because I'm able to appreciate this kind of humour without being offended. And you're right people don't react in the same way, obviously, but I could just as easily have attacked you for trying to label me as some kind of anti christian when that isn't what I am.
And just because a lot of people have dismissed her views because of her religion doesn't mean I did the same with my post, so I'd appreciate if you didn't lump me in with all of those people thanks.
Don't worry, we've played assassin's creed. We know how to deal with crusades...Acidwell said:That kid had better watch out his mother has got the support of her church and we know what happens when they start a crusade
Me too...Xcelsior said:Nope, not wrong at all. That's what first popped into my head.Disaster Button said:"I have support from my church"
Is it wrong that I read that and though, "well that explains everything"?