Mom Calls For Ban On Underworld

Hobo Of Hell

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The youngest person Ive seen with an Ipod touch / Iphone
Is 16
By which age I'm pretty sure they have their views on drugs and such
and an I-game (whatever) Isnt going to change that.

Just another over-reaction to something completely irrelevant
 

Jadak

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A teenager experimenting with drugs? What is the world coming to ?!?!?!

Must be the videogames, as this certainly wasn't happening prior to modern gaming.

*feigns shock and horror*
 

Xanadu84

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To play devils advocate...

Alright, correlating Video Games with Violence and antisocial tendencies is BS. I have a Bachelors in Psychology, ive read the research, the complete illegitimacy of the claim is pretty basic Psych 101 stuff. Anyone who actually did a study that has any validity at all would be, and should be, arrested. Any mature individual can play a game of any theme with out negative consequence, or at least consequences comparable to watching movies, playing sports, etc. The mom here is obviously either a failure as a mother, or looking for a scapegoat for this tragedy. I am willing to have pity on her if she needs a scapegoat, because my heart does go out to her, and as a video gamer I can forgive the irrational outburst of someone who has just lost there daughter. However, I don't think that children should be exposed to very violent video games, and that the ESRB is there for a reason. So I will grant this women that it is not impossible (Though it is improbable) that playing this game was a small factor, amongst many other factors, that lead to her daughter being desensitized to a culture that encourages drug use, which in turn has a small chance to leading to encourage experimenting with drugs, as countless children already do. And although other environmental factors are by far more likely the cause, I think the issue of children being able to play a handful of Mature games via Cell Phone without an ESRB-like system to intervene is an issue worth addressing. So yes, Video Games on the platform of cell phones alone seem to be an issue worth addressing, after you look at half a million other factors that are actually worth addressing for the sake of her daughter. Point granted. Now go look at your school, law enforcement, friends, family, counselors, her mental state, yourself, and pretty much everything else in her life before it's worth addressing a game.
 

Airhead

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Instead of banning the game, ban the drugs.

Oh wait, they already are banned. Does that fix the problem? Nope.

Conclusion: straightforward solutions of worried mums don't work.
 

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Slimey said:
This game looks similar to Dope Wars, and if I remember correctly, Dope Wars really didn't even talk about the drugs much besides the buying and selling prices.

It seems,if anything, the game would help kids learn economics.
We played an RP (Role Playing not Rolly Poly) like that in Geography. We also studied the heroin trail (How heroin gets from god knows where to the UK).
 

Zac_Dai

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Seriously don't link to shitty tabloid websites like this, you only encourage them to put up more stupid idiotic stories like this.
 

Avida

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God i hate the commercialisation of drug culture, that cannabis leaf in particular seems to be almost an idol to be prayed to by many i know.

Thank you Jamash for reading into it and putting down some good points, unlike most above you.
 

Sacman

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that ladies daughter didn't have time to play video games from all the mary jane she was smokin and the groupsex she was havin'. stop blaming video games for the problems with teenagers you know what the real problem is neglectful parents and the fact daddy didn't hug her enough because he was to busy at work or getting BJ's in the back of his mercedes benz from his secretary.
 

Wilfy

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Hang on, her daughter has been in a come for seven years - so before the iPhone came out. If you're going to blame a game, at least blame one your daughter could have played.
 

Zephirius

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Xanadu84 said:
Not personally to you, but to half the people who have posted: Her daughter has been in a coma for 8 years. There's nothing new about said coma, nor about this supposedly horrible game, if the '25-year-old Drug Wars' argument is to be believed. I played a browser-based mafia game when I was ten or so. I got bored after three minutes. It may be a bit about what games people play or what movies they watch, but it's mostly about what kind of person they are (or have been made into)and especially who they socialize with. If they socialize with the kind of people who actually encourage drug use, smoking, and drinking(i.e. 98% of the teenage population), then yes, they will very likely indulge in a bit of everything. I never had this problem because I had no real friends for the first 13 years of my life or so (those that I did have were friends half the time, bullies the other half) and when I did get some real friends they discouraged that stuff (lucky me) so I might not be fully qualified to say these things, but bite me. I have the right to express my opinion. That was it.

I will admit that society is not at all doing enough to discourage drug use, but then, drinking excessively is bad for your health, and look at how much we discourage that. No, the 2-second hard-to-see soft white 'moderation this and that' in those commercials don't count.

On topic, this mother needs to realize that 'poor Amy' was not a victim of drugs. If anything, she was a victim of peer pressure. I hardly think a game that trivializes drugdealing is ever going to be as powerful as the fear of losing one's friends (over whether or not you will do drugs, what friends indeed).
 

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I can understand this woman's worries, but if the idea of your child playing a certain game is bothering you, then it is your job as a parent to monitor your child's consumption of content.
 

tino1498

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i think the game idea is ridiculous and unethical. What's the point? it would be much safer and more accepted by society if it simply wasn't about drugs. why would you make this game?
it's not the games fault that the persons daughter ended up on drugs, but it is a stupid game
 

Xanadu84

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I feel the need to reiterate that the moms daughter is in a 7 year Heroine Coma, cut her some slack for being irrational. Its possible that shes not shifting blame, she just happened to see her daughter fall victim to a horrific tragedy, and she needs to freak out at something.
 

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So... She's angry because she thinks her daughter is in a coma for possibly playing a drug-orientated game 7 years ago?

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. Sure, if she played it, the game probably had a part in this tragedy. But such a small part that it's completely insignificant. The probability of someone doing drugs because of a video game is probably less than 1/Billion. That doesn't mean you can ban anything, even if it will harm one person in a billion. (You can ban it only if it's proven to be extremely harmful to everyone, in my opinion.).

And also, if you want to prevent these kinds of situations - look into your child's life, make sure they know about drugs and if you don't want them to play a certain game, stop them yourself. Don't have the government do it for you. That's not what they do and you're just wasting their time.

Also. Why would a child/teenager have an iPhone? If you give them an iPhone, you're practically asking them to get robbed and are also spoiling them.
 

Canebrake

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Dope wars is fun. I've played it myself for apx 80 hours before i messed with the names n stuff.
There was this particular game,Freelancer.. i named all the drugs in Dope wars after stuff in that game.
lol cardimine.
I've never tried drugs,much less smoked a cigarette at age 18 now.(they just stink neways)
Peer pressure is the #1 reason. Period.
The friends you pick has more to do with wether or not you do drugs or booze than any game.

Besides if your playing games you already found you crack. Hehe....

But seriously,is drugs in games going to make someone try them?
Anyone who relates games to Real life needs to be shot. (*cough*Jack Thompson*cough*)

If a game featured trading Gin and Rum in the carribean would that make people drink?
What if it was Big Macs? would that make people fat? what about scrap metal? would they vandalise cars?!

There is a point where things get rediculous. And it was about 7 years ago in this case.
 

Sigenrecht

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I thought this was something about some game adaptation of the film, but since I can't bring myself to not comment, I'll just say the mother has a point, impressionable manchildren about aforementioned age are certainly a threat, but Jesus Christ, it's a phone game. It's, like, take Mafia Wars off MySpace because it encourages gang violence.