I remember watching a film about a monkey who used to play with bears and was eaten by one. It was called Grizzly Man. PETA was probably happy about that, as there is only one kind of monkey they don't like.
Monkey and Bear race; Monkey wins, Bear eats Monkey
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The bear is eating the monkey. You can't exactly tap it on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me, would you mind stopping that please?"Lilani said:
The bear lashed out because the monkey crashed and tripped the bear up, ruining the task the bear has been trained over many years to do. Whether that training involved treats for success or punishment for failure (both likely), the monkey just cost it that. The bear would understand that, and be pissed.
OT: Hilarious.
If I was in a position of power, I wouldn't let this kind of thing happen because I suspect there was abuse in the training of these animals. That said though, 'twas glorious.
Not sure what to say... so Ill say something somewhat funny if not for the actual fact that it happened:
Lets be honest, the monkey had it coming...
Lets be honest, the monkey had it coming...
you people seem to be so unnecessarily conflicted with the reality that something can be both deeply disturbing AND hilarious. you dont get to chose your emotional reactions, if the stimuli is there your gonna feel it no matter how self-righteous an internet post you make is.
of course the entire concept of a bear-monkey bike rice on a highly public stage is a disaster waiting to happen and a shameful mockery to both the lives of the animals and the depths humanity will sink to for a quick laugh.... but its still a god-damn amazing quick laugh. if we were there we would be staring awkwardly like everyone else, but lucky us, we get to witness it in hindsight as an internet video, so everything goes, your conscious understands.
of course the entire concept of a bear-monkey bike rice on a highly public stage is a disaster waiting to happen and a shameful mockery to both the lives of the animals and the depths humanity will sink to for a quick laugh.... but its still a god-damn amazing quick laugh. if we were there we would be staring awkwardly like everyone else, but lucky us, we get to witness it in hindsight as an internet video, so everything goes, your conscious understands.
Yeah, the bear was eating the monkey. There was no way they were going to save it, so why agitate it further by beating it with a stick?kurupt87 said:
And let me say that again: Beating it with a stick. They've got a wild animal in captivity, and their first method of getting it under control is to hit it with sticks. I don't think there's any "maybe" in the notion that they abuse it pretty regularly.
Making the monkey and bear race against each other seems like animal cruelty to me. The bear eating the monkey seems more like nature taking its course. That's going to happen. Putting two animals on opposite ends of the food chain in the same room and not doing a good enough job exasperating them is going to result in this.
Hitting the bear with sticks was also wrong too. Not only does that put the bear in pain but I am guessing it agitates it too.
They never should have done this to begin with or had a lot more and better security measures in place.
I suppose this does teach people that if you can't beat people than it is better to eat them.
Hitting the bear with sticks was also wrong too. Not only does that put the bear in pain but I am guessing it agitates it too.
They never should have done this to begin with or had a lot more and better security measures in place.
I suppose this does teach people that if you can't beat people than it is better to eat them.
Jesus Christ, the people in this thread.
People advocating for dog fighting because "it's in their nature to want to kill each other", people comparing animals getting killed to a laptop breaking. The hell is going on in the world that I wake up one day and see even one person proudly displaying these kind of sicko views?
Done with this shit, y'all can have your damn bear-mauling-monkey shows if ya think it's so damn funny. I'm out.
People advocating for dog fighting because "it's in their nature to want to kill each other", people comparing animals getting killed to a laptop breaking. The hell is going on in the world that I wake up one day and see even one person proudly displaying these kind of sicko views?
Done with this shit, y'all can have your damn bear-mauling-monkey shows if ya think it's so damn funny. I'm out.
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You'll both be pleased/relieved to read my other posts which explain that my argument was indeed a false one.bojackx said:
I hope this restores some of your faith in humanity.
Though to be honest it was worth it to see that awesome GIF.
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Well, that is kinda the point of a forum, for people to discuss different viewpoints on topics. If you don't want to read posts which have a different opinion from yours, perhaps you should reconsider whether this site is for you?TheDrunkNinja said:
The thing is that this wasnt funny because it was a bear eating a monkey, it was funny because you get such a surreal combination of things straight out of a Family Guy joke like having a bear loose a race to a monkey and then chase him in a bike to eat him, that is the funny part. Everything around it is sad and wrong, the bear probably took a lot of bad treatment just to learn to ride a bike but I cant deny that the video manages to be "funny" due to all its retardness.BloatedGuppy said:
For example, if the bear went back to the bike and started chasing the audience to eat them it would also be funny; sad and horrible, sure but the amount of stupidity and surrealism of that moment would be funny (not that I would want anyone to get hurt, this whole thing could have been just as funny if the monkey managed to get out of the situation uharmed). Its basicly the essense of dark humor.
And you're suggesting that I shouldn't express my disgust for such views upon hearing them, thus saying people don't want to read my post which has an negative opinion on other people's opinions? I'm participating in "the point of the forum" by giving my own opinion, don't get all sassy about it just because I disagree with half the people here.JoJo said:
Which, apparently, I don't...
I suppose I appreciate that you don't actually feel that way about dogfighting (haven't met a single person who has ever thought what you've written in these many posts), but you also kind of hit a peeve of mine. Arguing a point by advocating from the other side in an extreme manner. My problem is with the manipulative nature of it. Perhaps you wouldn't have made as much of an impact if you had played it straight like in your previous post where you admitted you were lying, but the deceitful nature of the argument might just as easily diminish the importance of the point you were trying to get across. Also, mod gods might mistake it for trolling. Just keep it real from now on, okay?fletch_talon said:
Oh, and you're welcome for the gif. Feel free to use it any time you come to a thread and just want to say "FUCK IT"
Personally I feel empathy towards anything that can feel pain and displeasure. I mean, what's the point of empathy otherwise?JoJo said:
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Well, the point of empathy is help societies function by allowing us humans to understand each other and work towards a common good. It helps resolve the dilemma where for each individual, taking more than they give to a society is beneficial but if everyone cheats, everyone loses out more. Unless a particular animal remaining unharmed benefits our society, such as a dog used for hunting or companionship, there is no benefit to us to feel empathy for a non-human animal.OhJohnNo said:
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Maybe not a direct material benefit, but you get a good feeling out of empathising and considering yourself a good person yes? That is your benefit, not to mention that acting empathetically (within reason) helps your social relations with others and keeps society stable, both of which you benefit from again ;-)OhJohnNo said: