I feel like most of Yahtzee's complaints are just because this game is the polar opposite of his preference. This game works like WoW. You dont truly enjoy it till your a powerful high level character and even then soloing is the least fun part. This game is all about jumping into the multiplayer and hunting down monsters online where each character has a distinct weapon with a distinct purpose. If one weapon was good for everything it would defy the way this game is meant to be played. Because of this i think Yahtzee was just really bad at the game and when you totally suck at a game you dont enjoy it regardless of what game it is.
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True, but WoW does actually have a storyline, an extremely expansive world to explore, millions of other people to interact with, many opportunities for RP, etc. There are likely a ton of people who play it for the grind, but there's probably just as many who play it for the "fluff." Of course, given the juggernaut that it is, there's probably just as many players who who play it just because all of their friends do. Though this is definitely getting off topic.Mindmaker said:
Being able to switch out equipment mid quest would be game breaking. Being able to switch weapon types mid-fight, especially, would be like changing your class mid-fight in another RPG. Each weapon confers different strengths, and this is intended to be a coop game. The strength of being a gunner is in being able to swap ammo types on the fly.Chrono180 said:
The only time the lock-in thing ever gets annoying is online if you go and accept a quest, having forgotten to get food buffs and the correct weapon for the job. Though I think they do that so that other people know what you're taking with you so they can adjust if you're missing something in the group.
Item gathering is not terribly important. You'll need to do a bit at the start, but it loses necessity very quickly. Between the farm, fishery, vendors, and NPC traders, you can easily stockpile components for hours of uninterrupted giant wyvern hunting. About the only thing you can't find a shortcut around is mining, but you don't have to craft equipment that requires ore if you don't want to. Most equipment is crafted from monster parts you get from just playing the game. I have hundreds of components for traps, bombs, and other useful tools and I most certainly did not hand-gather the stuff.
Finally, equipment degradation does not exist. Weapons will lose sharpness, but one whetstone later and it's at full sharpness again. There's no permanent loss in equipment what-so-ever. The sharpness system is there for a few reasons. First of all very high end weapons will have blue, white, or even purple sharpness levels. These confer a powerful multiplier to your attack damage, but they usually only last a few hits before the level drops. High sharpness levels also allow your weapon to pass through armored plate without bouncing. Another reason there's a sharpness system is to reward/punish for attacking vulnerable spots versus armored body parts. The more calculated and accurate you are with your attacks, the more damage and better sharpness you'll maintain before having to retreat a bit to repair your weapon.
Thank you, that makes my argument perfectly. If I wanted realism, I'd go outside... >_>Dorkmaster Flek said:
Following my previous post I think people take Yahtzee too seriously. If you truly based buying a game or not on his reviews you should only ever play Psychonauts and nothing else. His reviews (except for Psychonauts) are always to point out the holes in a game that make up its bad part. In this review, he just didnt have any really true information. I suppose i dont see his point of view having played previous MH titles but to someone who knows the game most of his complaints (presented in a rather bitchy form) are nonexistant.
I thought I (and a few friends) were the only people who knew how much icy hot hurt when applied to....sensitive areas. Wow.
DeathWyrmNexus said:
Except that sharpness resets after missions and you never have to "repair" in town. The sharpness system was also originally introduced as a balancing mechanism between the weapons, such that some would require more, others less, and that was just a consideration when you selected your weapon. In most fights you'll maybe need to sharpen twice if you have a weapon with half-decent sharpness. And given that the monsters will change areas every once in a while, you can usually just do it then. It takes 5 seconds, and then you're back to chasing the monster.
In the 'story-mode' single-player, you go on quests to fight the bigger beef. Once you do, they show up near your home out of nowhere ready to rip your face off. That velociraptor on steroids you killed by the skin of your teeth? His relatives took up residence at the nearby creek. That monolithic electrified lizard? He's now near your favorite fishing spot.Dora said:
There is also an 'arena' mode which sounds exactly like what you want. You are given a small amount of items and allowed to choose a weapon and armor, then are sent straight away at a 'boss' monster like in gladiatorial combat.
Lastly, there is multiplayer, which lets you either pick some friends or throws you with a club of random people and you go out to slaughter something much bigger and uglier than you would see in single player.
And yes, the review also made me want to dig out HarvestMoon. Or, Or! Ruin Factory. Now that was a good game.
Edit - alright, I admit. Story-mode is a poor choice of words as there is not much of a story. But that is generally what single-player is classified as these days. I cannot win them all.
If you have a Wii you should get one anyway. They're quite nice. And I'm fairly certain that the bundle was limited release, and most of those went to pre-orders, so if you really want one, you'll have to look around a bit...mike1921 said:
It Gets Better Later is my big complaint with Bad Company 2's multiplayer (which according to fans is the ONLY part of the game). You start out with no perks, gadgets, or guns whatsoever, meaning all the classes are just one mediocre gun and one pistol. You have to earn every single last thing, usually by killing players with twice the equipment you have. I don't want to have to wait before I start using guns that are fun, dude. At least Modern Warfare 2 gave me some of the straightforward-awesome perks before unlocking me some situational ones. (And the "pro" versions give a side-upgrade, rather than just "The same but BETTER")
It's only the old school MH players who really say the game is unplayable with a Wiimote. While I am getting a Classic Controller Pro in the near future, I've played through the whole offline game and a fair bit into online without one. The only issue is the Wiimote is clunky for certain weapons. Namely I find it unwieldy to use for the switch-axe or lance. Otherwise I have no issues with it (though I highly recommend turning off the waggle draw/attack in options).mike1921 said:
Oh, really? Thanks for the clarification! (I realise other people have probably said much the same in this thread, but I did't feel like scrolling through ten pages of complaints to find it.) Arena mode does sound like it might satiate my interest. (As long as it doesn't force me to unlock monsters by playing through the main campaign first.) I'll give 'er a rent sometime. If it holds up, I have some friends who'd be all over this for multiplayer. It wouldn't be the first time I liked a game Yahtzee didn't, but who cares?Quaidis said:
Nobody here is arguing with you. The only problem MH fans had with it, aside from a couple idiots, was the fact he was dishonest about not playing the game all the way through. I've even explicitly stated I'd be fine if Yahtzee had bashed the game and said that he quit because he hated it, but instead he only announced that when he wrote in his column, not in the video.Azagthoth666 said:
Well, you have to play through the campaign to unlock monsters for the arena, which is stupid, *but*, if you play online, there's no storyline and 90% of the missions are just killing shit.Dora said:
I would advise you read a guide on how the connection works online, because it's a bit odd, but basically, the guy who sees the main boss first is the "host" and only the players and the main boss are shared; the minion monsters are all client side.
I don't usually read through all the pages, either. I came across your post as a fluke =DDora said:
I know that in the beginning you can only fight the first three big baddies on arena mode. I haven't defeated them yet to know if that, alone, unlocks the others. I keep getting my ass handed to me on arena mode. Hard does not begin to describe it. Multiplayer is something else; it rocks.
I wish people would play the game before commenting lolshadowmarth said:
The sharpness factor in this game is not a detriment at all. It's very simple, and not a hassle.1) You use a weapon, after 10 mins of slashing away it will "degrade" where it is still useful, but can now bounce.
2) You press a button and you use a whetstone. It takes 3 seconds.
3) Slash away for another 10 mins!