More Unskippable Piracy Warnings for DVDs
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I've mentioned it before I'm sure, but I've got a fair few sealed DVDs on my shelves at home, because I've decided I want to own it, yet I'm watching downloaded versions of the DVDs that I paid for, because they're easier to use and someone's kindly stripped all the BS from the recordings.
Apparently I'm still a dirty filthy pirate for doing this and deserve to have my internet shut off and sent to jail, because I'm just not LISTENING to the lectures put on the DVDs. Why won't I just pay attention, hmm?
Others I've only unwrapped to watch the extras, because you rarely get downloads of the extras
I've said it a million times however, make stuff cheap and easy to both GET and USE, and you'll cut piracy overnight.
Make it expensive, annoying to watch with warnings and ads, then lock it to certain countries, then further lock it to a number of viewings or only on certain devices, and screw you all, many people will take the free one.
Steam however, has people buying stuff they ALREADY OWN, because of the simple ease of use. £2 for Deus Ex? and I don't have to find the CD and the CD key? Sign me up!
Apparently I'm still a dirty filthy pirate for doing this and deserve to have my internet shut off and sent to jail, because I'm just not LISTENING to the lectures put on the DVDs. Why won't I just pay attention, hmm?
Others I've only unwrapped to watch the extras, because you rarely get downloads of the extras
I've said it a million times however, make stuff cheap and easy to both GET and USE, and you'll cut piracy overnight.
Make it expensive, annoying to watch with warnings and ads, then lock it to certain countries, then further lock it to a number of viewings or only on certain devices, and screw you all, many people will take the free one.
Steam however, has people buying stuff they ALREADY OWN, because of the simple ease of use. £2 for Deus Ex? and I don't have to find the CD and the CD key? Sign me up!
That's just moving the goalpost. None of the above posters claimed that that pirates are at fault for disobeying a SLIGHTLY immoral law. Their posts categorically ignored the whole concept of civil disobedience, basically claiming that all laws must be obeyed because they are laws.Bhaalspawn said:
Besides, I didn't say that copyright holders are as evil as racists. If they would be, I would go out of my way to pirate everything, and even try to actively sabotage them, as opposed to mostly paying for my stuff, but not always paying attention to the letter of the law.
I wouldn't even say that copyright laws are *immoral* at all. they are just... not very morally justified, either. Like low speed limits at an empty straight road. Or alcohol pohibition. The theory behind them kind of makes sense, but to claim that it's still immoral to break them even when their practical execution doesn't, just because they are laws, (and they are not outright evil), is no more than blind rule-worshipping.
Or if you know a reason why only dangerously unjust laws should be disobeyed, but we are morally obliged to follow every less evil one even if they are not moral, I'm all ears.
Intellectual property "theft" isnt a victimless crime, there are plenty of victims, the consumers. the ones who bought the game, the ones who played by the corporate rules are the ones paying for these crimes, the actual pirates being victims is merely a coincidence.
SOPA, PIPA, just the recent examples of this where the only people being hurt are the ones who paid and supported these companies. these copyright morons are literally shooting their "fanbase" in the head.
SOPA, PIPA, just the recent examples of this where the only people being hurt are the ones who paid and supported these companies. these copyright morons are literally shooting their "fanbase" in the head.
I FUCKING KNEW IT
But no, in all seriousness, the people who are likely to be swayed against piracy by this are the people that never encounter it
Everyone else either doesnt care and ignores it, or is annoyed and goes out to pirate MORE
that's weird... I bought a copy of Deus Ex for two DOLLARS at Half-Price Books, and it doesn't require the CD either.SenseOfTumour said:
I actually had planned to get an ISO to avoid it, but didn't have to. Wonder why that is.
this doesnt justify piracy, but once again shows an example of the legitimate customer being penalised for buying and the pirate getting a (slightly) better product.
combine this with regionalisation and it proves how much business practices need to be updated
combine this with regionalisation and it proves how much business practices need to be updated
"The fact that only legitimate customers will be subjected to these notices (presumably we're the victims mentioned in the first notice) is actually part of ICE's strategy. The notices are apparently meant to educate the general public, who upon seeing them will naturally take up arms and drive the pirates into the ocean from whence they came. "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort," announced ICE director, John Morton."
And that idea blows up as soon as the pirate says to the annoyed paying customer, "Do you want to watch movies and never have to deal with those annoying ad's ever again?" They really need to think this through a few more steps than they have. Well then again, they didn't think at all since this is basically what they've been doing since the early 80's.
And that idea blows up as soon as the pirate says to the annoyed paying customer, "Do you want to watch movies and never have to deal with those annoying ad's ever again?" They really need to think this through a few more steps than they have. Well then again, they didn't think at all since this is basically what they've been doing since the early 80's.
And now I will buy even less DVDs and Blu-rays. Good job, FBI and ICE! You're right, piracy is not a victimless crime, but I bet your website forgets to mention that the victims are paying customers who are forced to watch your anti-piracy bullshit when they just want to watch the goddamned movie they spent $20 on.
Oh well, at least the games industry isn't the only one completely unaware of how to combat piracy. The movie industry is absolutely fucking stupid too! Doesn't anyone pay attention to the music industry? Offer your customers a better, more easily accessible product and they will come give you money. How many people gave up on music pirating where you had to worry about varying audio quality and possible viruses/spyware when Apple came along and said "here you go, buy any song you want at a consistent quality with no viruses for 99 cents"? I almost hate to say this, but maybe Apple SHOULD get more serious in the games industry. Maybe they could show people how to properly combat piracy again.
Oh well, at least the games industry isn't the only one completely unaware of how to combat piracy. The movie industry is absolutely fucking stupid too! Doesn't anyone pay attention to the music industry? Offer your customers a better, more easily accessible product and they will come give you money. How many people gave up on music pirating where you had to worry about varying audio quality and possible viruses/spyware when Apple came along and said "here you go, buy any song you want at a consistent quality with no viruses for 99 cents"? I almost hate to say this, but maybe Apple SHOULD get more serious in the games industry. Maybe they could show people how to properly combat piracy again.
Give me an option to stream/download movies and shows the moment they air and I'll buy that shit. Oh, and don't fucking make it US only. Thank you, the rest of the world.
Until then, pirating it is.
Do they really not understand that most pirating is the effect of having an outdated business model?
Until then, pirating it is.
Do they really not understand that most pirating is the effect of having an outdated business model?
