Most deadly fighting force in the world today?

[Dfskelleton]

I like how half of this thread has essentially become Warhammer 40k vs. Halo, and knowing what the majority of the people here think, this can only end in disaster.
OT: Like others have said, the guys who fire the nukes. Sure, the Marines and SAS are genuinely badass, those nameless, shady men off in a bunker somewhere can launch the planet into a nuclear apocalypse with the press of a few buttons. That's a force to be reckoned with.
Captcha was: "two left feet". Funny, because my school dance was yesterday, and that's exactly what I thought I would be like. Turns out I was okay. Not good, but okay.

 

[Doogan]

The SAS and Ghurkas come to mind as the best in the world to me.

Also most of the USA was colonised by the British so Britain Wins Everything

 

[Thaluikhain]

No mention of the Canadians?

They spend all their time fighting Chaos under the command of Creed, when they aren't beating US Navy SEALS to deathe with clubs.

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Thank you, you've been a wonderful forum, I've be here all week!

 

[Lt._nefarious]

SAS! F*CK YEAH THE SAS ARE THE BOMB! WOO YEAH! THEY COULD KICK SPETSNAZ's ASS! WOO-HOO! SAS!

Yeah, sorry for that little outburst I just... yeah... I really admire the SAS...

 

[BOOM headshot65]

No matter how much I want to say "Someone in the US military", I know of one military branch that can kick our ass and we will never even know thier there...just like they do to everyone else. Who is it?

THE ISRAELI....FRICKING....MOSSAD! [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad]

 

[Patrick Buck]

SAS. But the russain Speznaz look pretty freakin' deadly too. I don't know that much about them, but christ.

The SAS gotta win though. So much training, so deadly.

 

[spartan231490]

SAS. The fact that they recruit people who have distinguished themselves in other forms of service already, combined with their record and training, puts them leagues above most everyone else. Israeli special forces are up there too.

 

[Private Custard]

In terms of deadly fighting forces, what do you want them to do exactly?

Clear a building of terrorists in about a minute with no/minimal civilian casualties - SAS all the way

Dominate a battlefield from the air - US Army (AH-64), USAF (A-10) and the R.A.F. (Tornados and Typhoons for precision strikes)

Destroy everything in a building and leave no survivors - Spetsnaz

The US has the tech and the numbers, but like-for-like, they're not always the best. It's why coalition forces are so strong. The best tool for the job at any given moment, regardless of nationality.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

I'm gonna say the most deadly fighting force in the world is probably one we don't know about. Large scale, the US has the most deadly, just because of how much money is thrown into new tech. However, if we're talking infantry, I think a PMC packed with highly trained, highly experienced ex-military soldiers would be extremely lethal. As far as k/d goes though, the Spartans have a pretty good record.

 

[The Funslinger]

Based on what you know and have heard, who do you think is the most deadly fighting force in the world today? I'm talking any military Unit, Regiment, Corps or Service, from any country.

Judge it based on teams of equal numbers facing off against each other, not, say, 22 SAS Regt. vs the entire USMC.

In my opinion, it would be the SAS, and not because I'm British, but mainly because they train about 24 other Special Forces over the world, and I've read a lot about their training process and it seems superior to that of many other special forces. Feel free to contradict me though.

P.S. Let's not let this turn into a flame war, please be polite, and back up your arguments with proper evidence.

I'm British too, but I'm going to go with the Royal Marines. They have what's defined to be the hardest training regiment, and they're more versatile than the SAS.

 

[Skratt]

The Afghanis.

They resisted against the Russian and American elite. How about that? Afghanistan is where empires go to die.

That's only because they play by different rules. Killing all infidels is encouraged by Jihad, whereas American forces at least make a pretense of "trying to miss" the women and children.

While I can't speak to the battle prowess of any particular special forces unit, to me there is something inherently frightening about being killed by an unmanned drone. It's kinda like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Actually, I think NOD would be the deadliest fighting force in the world. They have towers with frickin laser beams attached to the top. How cool is that?

 

[Pharsalus]

Irael's Mossad on and individual level. On a strategic level the US Navy, more tonnage than the next 17 national navies in the world.

 

[Wintermoot]

US marines although I heard that Spetsnaz training is tougher.

 

[DionysusSnoopy]

Based on what you know and have heard, who do you think is the most deadly fighting force in the world today? I'm talking any military Unit, Regiment, Corps or Service, from any country.

Judge it based on teams of equal numbers facing off against each other, not, say, 22 SAS Regt. vs the entire USMC.

In my opinion, it would be the SAS, and not because I'm British, but mainly because they train about 24 other Special Forces over the world, and I've read a lot about their training process and it seems superior to that of many other special forces. Feel free to contradict me though.

P.S. Let's not let this turn into a flame war, please be polite, and back up your arguments with proper evidence.

I'm British too, but I'm going to go with the Royal Marines. They have what's defined to be the hardest training regiment, and they're more versatile than the SAS.

The Special Boat Service definetly, tough selection, oldest British special forces, recruit primarily from the Royal Marines. Also all of the UK special forces bear excalibur on their badges (thats just for interest). I'm British.

 

[One of Many]

While I would feel bad if the SASR didn't get a mention, special forces are pansies. Gurkha FTW. Big guy with a scowl and a small knife vs small guy with a smile and a fucking huge knife. Put your money on the Gurkha every time.

About time someone mentioned the Gurkhas. And, as second-best, I'd say the U.S. L.R.R.P.s, since they were essentially the stealthy counterpart to the Army RANGERS.

But, most definitely Gurkhas, all the way. Cool under fire, polite, nicest guys you'll ever meet. But also the most dangerous to go against, especially with their Kukris. Yes, the knife that puts the Bowie to shame, and is possibly the best combat knife in existence.

To be fair to the Bowie the Kukri is bordering on "short sword" territory. Just be sure to give a Gurkha a camera if you want proof of a kill, you might not like what they bring back otherwise. [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1295617/Gurkha-ordered-UK-beheading-dead-Taliban-fighter.html]

No, I'll take the severed head of an enemy leader over some picture, which could have been doctored, anytime. Go Gurkhas!

Anyways, my vote goes to the people with their fingers, on the buttons to launched the nukes. You wanted deadly? We got enough missiles to crack the damn planet bitches! Thats the most deadly fighting force on the planet.

 

[ElPatron]

Weapons.
Weapons are designed to inflict damage.
They are the most deadly fighting force in the world today.

Weapons are nothing without someone without pulling the trigger.

The world could be swarming in firearms, if there were no humans to load them and fire them, they would never destroy anything. Except perhaps some plants crushed by all the weight and having the sun blocked.

That's only because they play by different rules.

What rules? Do you think the Russian elite forces play by the rules?

If there is an hostage situation, they kill all the terrorists and civilians involved, because they are friggin' Russian elite forces. Specially the Spetsnaz, they eat, breathe and drink violence.

I am talking about goat herders and farmers armed with .303 bolt action rifles fighting against hordes of Russian soldiers armed with AK-74s.

I mean, they were able to fight back everyone since Genghis Khan.

 

[ElPatron]

The Afghanis.

They resisted against the Russian and American elite. How about that? Afghanistan is where empires go to die.

The Afghan Army? Because their training is 100% given by foreign nations and this isn't the case where the promising pupil surpasses the sensei on their mountain fortress/temple. As far as overcoming the Russians and Americans, the Taliban were initially trained, armed, and funded by the CIA to combat the Russian occupation.

The Afghanis.

They resisted against the Russian and American elite. How about that? Afghanistan is where empires go to die.

Except their victory against the Russians was because the Americans secretly pumped millions into training and supplying them. Kind of funny to think we trained the people who ended up founding Al-Qaeda.

A better version of that end sentence is Guerrilla Warfare is where Empires go to die.

No, I am talking about the people. The Afghanis have fought everyone back for centuries.

Well, they fucked up the Russians pretty good. They were the ones pulling the triggers, not the Americans.

But forget the guerrilla war. They have been fighting for longer than the US has existed, I just gave two examples and everyone is trying to make sure I know the story behind it.

 

[TheTim]

The SAS are just the coldest badasses around, there's no question of that in my mind.

The Seals or Delta Force are close though.

 

[Skratt]

What rules? Do you think the Russian elite forces play by the rules?

If there is an hostage situation, they kill all the terrorists and civilians involved, because they are friggin' Russian elite forces. Specially the Spetsnaz, they eat, breathe and drink violence.

What is the point to having them? If they kill everyone, including the people being held hostage, why even bother training them? Just bomb the place - you aren't leaving anyone standing anyway.

I'm not a military history buff, so forgive my ignorance please, but it just seems pointless to have them at all. Those don't even seem like special forces to me, just trained indiscriminate assassins based on your description.

 

[ElPatron]

I'm not a military history buff, so forgive my ignorance please, but it just seems pointless to have them at all. Those don't even seem like special forces to me, just trained indiscriminate assassins based on your description.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

Spetsnaz is a special force, and they have units under the FSB and the Ministry of the Interior.

But their tactics are very brutal and oriented for warfare, not for hostage rescue, and yet they also play the "SWAT" role on several occasions.

Just to show that the Russian elite can be as unforgiving and as "dirty" as the Mujaheddin were.