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Yassen said:
I'd say A clockwork Orange. The author quite literally created his own slang that he used in almost every sentence. I didn't know what the hell he was talking about for a while (malchick? What the fuck is that?) But once you pick it up by the context then it becomes a bit easier, if you can get that far. Good story though.

If you're wondering, malchick means "male-chick", essentially "a guy". Needlessly complicated slang for the win!
Agree with this. It breaks the whole immersion thing when you have to stop reading to refer to a glossary to find out what the hell the author is talking about.

I found Trainspotting to be similar. It is written in a scottish accent so you have to sound words out. After a while you get used to it, but every time you put the book down you have to re-train yourself to read in a thick scottish accent. Also the content is pretty dark (much worse than the film).
 

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The Glass Bead Game by Hermann Hesse.
Go on, you just try and read it. It's not that it's a difficult book, it's that it's a bloody difficult book. The language you can just about get past but it's about a game where the rules of the game aren't completely clear.
The sad thing is that most of these books are ones that I've read and loved - I've read the Glass Bead Game twice and think it's fabulous. I love a good dense read - Gormenghast, Riddley Walker,...

In my case the answer is The Redemption of Althalus by David (and Leigh) Eddings. Not because it was a difficult book in terms of the language, but because it was so unutterably crap that I had to struggle to keep going. It's the only book I've ever given up reading five pages from the end - when I suddenly realised 'there is no way this book will get better'. I'd been suckered in by an intriguing back cover blurb, but I should have known better: David Eddings = Good, lightweight fun. David and Leigh Eddings = Rambling, poorly plotted drivel.
 

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Swny Nerdgasm said:
In all 28 years of my life I still can't bring myself to get past the Tom Bombadil part, and I've trudged through Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, and for some god-forsaken reason i've even gotten through Beowulf in Old English, but Tolkien? Fucker gets me every time
Just skip that chapter - everyone else does.
 

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Flatfrog said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
In all 28 years of my life I still can't bring myself to get past the Tom Bombadil part, and I've trudged through Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, and for some god-forsaken reason i've even gotten through Beowulf in Old English, but Tolkien? Fucker gets me every time
Just skip that chapter - everyone else does.
that's something I can't do, I dunno why, but I'd rather stop reading something then skip ahead
 

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The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri (Longfellow translation). And...
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Catcher in the Rye...

I hated the main character because he was a elitist brat who was masquerading as as a deep realistic character with complex thoughts and emotions when he was just a total douche, and he was nearly impossible for me to connect with on any level.
this. For those reasons. I've gotten to page 30. I want to finish this book, but every page is excruciating. I can't stand that kid.
It's funny, I've always had the impression that we were *supposed* to feel this way about him. I think he's supposed to be an unreliable narrator and we're supposed to feel sorry for his naivete. No one ever agrees with me.
 

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Swny Nerdgasm said:
Flatfrog said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
In all 28 years of my life I still can't bring myself to get past the Tom Bombadil part, and I've trudged through Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, and for some god-forsaken reason i've even gotten through Beowulf in Old English, but Tolkien? Fucker gets me every time
Just skip that chapter - everyone else does.
that's something I can't do, I dunno why, but I'd rather stop reading something then skip ahead
Just do it - skip a dip, rip a dip, ring a down dillo. Me merrio me dearie. And all that shit. Trust me, everything gets better once they get to Bree, and things really kick in once you get past the Council of Elrond.
 

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Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. Most people have only seen the movie (if that), and the worst part is that the movie is the exciting first half of the book. Everything after that is a dull slog through intergalactic politics. It was like watching CSPAN, but with different skin colors.
 

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House of Leaves would probably be the most difficult thing I've ever read.

It's a book about someone reading a book about someone analyzing a movie that doesn't exist. That coupled with the footnotes referring to another footnote referring to a part of the appendix that doesn't exist.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVED reading that book, and I whole-heartedly recommend it to anyone who likes getting that uncomfortable chill you get when you think someone's watching you.

It was just a bit of a mess trying to sort out which way to hold the book to read that specific one footnote (turns out it was mirrored.)
 

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'House of Leaves' by the "American" author Mark Z. Danielewski

Why is it so difficult? Pick up the book and you will know, and you will ask why...

edit: was ninja'd by post above sighgasm
 

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I initially found Bernard Cornwell's Saxon series difficult to understand, as he uses the 9th century spellings for words, so say Winchester = Wintanceastre. The names are also unfamiliar, Saxon English has a very different sound to its modern counterpart.

Actually, just thought: Top prize goes to a religious bloke who handed me a book in the middle of Cardiff. It was written all in Sanskrit, and he didn't have the foggiest clue that I might not be able to read it. At all.
 

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Flatfrog said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
Flatfrog said:
Swny Nerdgasm said:
In all 28 years of my life I still can't bring myself to get past the Tom Bombadil part, and I've trudged through Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, and for some god-forsaken reason i've even gotten through Beowulf in Old English, but Tolkien? Fucker gets me every time
Just skip that chapter - everyone else does.
that's something I can't do, I dunno why, but I'd rather stop reading something then skip ahead
Just do it - skip a dip, rip a dip, ring a down dillo. Me merrio me dearie. And all that shit. Trust me, everything gets better once they get to Bree, and things really kick in once you get past the Council of Elrond.
Maybe I'll take your advice and try it again when I'm finished with The Wise Man's Fear
 

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Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.

What...the fuck. The first Dune was an enjoyable challenge, required some pondering to figure some of the messages out, but the next two, especially Dune Messiah was just one big ball o' esotheric what-the-fuck-ery. I'll probably have to read it 2 or 3 more times to properly understand it.
I read the entire saga. I went through it like a knife through butter. I found it so amazing and so easy to comprehend and it just felt so made for me. And it was weird that it happened that way, because i had never read anything SF before, but i guess it was just right. But that was 5 years ago. I should reread the entire thing, see if i have the same feeling.

Anyway, i had some problems with reading books by Russian authors. Amazing books, but very difficult to read. Crime and punishment, Anna Karenina, you know the drill. The only one that i just found really enjoyable to read was "The Master and Margarita", but i guess at that particular time i already had some training. :D
 

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"As I Lay Dying" by William Faulkner. I swear it gave me brain damage as well as psychological trauma.

It is entirely written in free-association-style writing, very little if any punctuation and entirely in thick Southern U.S. drawl.

Being an Australian, trying to get it to make sense in my head (and tying to read it while envisioning the accent) was hell.

Worst part was when this boy drills a hole into a makeshift coffin his mother's sealed into (he wants her to breathe) and drills right into his decomposing mother's head.

And an entire chapter consists of the words "my mother is a fish", which pretty much sums it up.
I'm from the southern US and couldn't understand that book. It wasn't difficult, it was nonsense.

Honestly, Faulkner was a drunk and a hack writer. I think even he conceded that point.
 

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Neptunus Hirt said:
The Lord of the Rings just trudged on, and on, and on.
It was a difficult read at the time, when I was eleven or twelve years old.
I tried 3 times between 19 and 23. I got stuck once at Tom Bombadil and once at Rivendell. Those chapters are just sooooo dull! However, on the third attempt I started again and once past Rivendell, I loved every minute of the rest.
 

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Bible. This is repulsive and so ridiculously violent that it would fail the first part of the "Miller test" (the average Person would find this material to be offensive) if there weren't so many christians out there who like this book and therefore don't find it to be offensive.

Necronomicon. Hauntingly similar to the Bible, but actually less bloody. There is a story where someone summons a demon to free his People from slavery. Sounds familiar?
Well, instead of decimating an entire army and torture a country, the demon manipulates the mind of the nations leader to think that he can do that, so he doesn't have to.
 

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Chani07 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.

What...the fuck. The first Dune was an enjoyable challenge, required some pondering to figure some of the messages out, but the next two, especially Dune Messiah was just one big ball o' esotheric what-the-fuck-ery. I'll probably have to read it 2 or 3 more times to properly understand it.
I read the entire saga. I went through it like a knife through butter. I found it so amazing and so easy to comprehend and it just felt so made for me. And it was weird that it happened that way, because i had never read anything SF before, but i guess it was just right. But that was 5 years ago. I should reread the entire thing, see if i have the same feeling.
In hindsight I 'get' Dune Messiah too, the whole seeing-the-future-and-being-encaged-by-it-and-wanting-to-escape spiel, Children of Dune is still rather fresh in my mind. God Emperor of Dune will be read as well, I wonder how that is.
 
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Atlus shrugged

It took me an entire school year to get through that shit, and I barely forced myself to read through John Galt's 100 PAGE SPEECH on objectivism.

I really wish I had that year back to read something with more entertainment value.
 

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Flatfrog said:
Gunsang said:
The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri (Longfellow translation). And...
Jark212 said:
Catcher in the Rye...

I hated the main character because he was a elitist brat who was masquerading as as a deep realistic character with complex thoughts and emotions when he was just a total douche, and he was nearly impossible for me to connect with on any level.
this. For those reasons. I've gotten to page 30. I want to finish this book, but every page is excruciating. I can't stand that kid.
It's funny, I've always had the impression that we were *supposed* to feel this way about him. I think he's supposed to be an unreliable narrator and we're supposed to feel sorry for his naivete. No one ever agrees with me.
Two things... I found the Divine Comedy a complete headfuck as well...

And yes, we are supposed to pour the hate on the narrator in Catcher in the Rye, that way we miss the fact that he's distracting us from what he's trying to do... which I've forgotten because I actually found the book very boring...

On a different note, my old man found the Count of Monte Cristo a difficult read, then I gave it a go and finished it in about 16 hrs (total reading time, in 6 sittings). Fucking awesome is all I got to say about...
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Chani07 said:
Cowabungaa said:
Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.

What...the fuck. The first Dune was an enjoyable challenge, required some pondering to figure some of the messages out, but the next two, especially Dune Messiah was just one big ball o' esotheric what-the-fuck-ery. I'll probably have to read it 2 or 3 more times to properly understand it.
I read the entire saga. I went through it like a knife through butter. I found it so amazing and so easy to comprehend and it just felt so made for me. And it was weird that it happened that way, because i had never read anything SF before, but i guess it was just right. But that was 5 years ago. I should reread the entire thing, see if i have the same feeling.
In hindsight I 'get' Dune Messiah too, the whole seeing-the-future-and-being-encaged-by-it-and-wanting-to-escape spiel, Children of Dune is still rather fresh in my mind. God Emperor of Dune will be read as well, I wonder how that is.
God Emperor of Dune is very interesting, easier to read and follow, but there is a particular scene that will make you wonder who was under Frank Herbert's desk when he wrote it. You'll understand when you'll get there.
 

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The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. I was 11 at the time and it was the first novel my class studied... I could not grasp it... at all