Perfect post, sums up the issues of both games just right. This would be my vote as well, placed in that order.Tropicaz said:
Most disapointing game of 2013
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I think possibly Outlast for me. All the reviews I saw of it said it was amazing, but I couldn't get it into it. The enemies act like cliche stereotypes of crazy people, which would probably have been ok if they weren't all made to be obviously evil and monstrous looking. I've always thought the most terrifying thing about psychopaths is that they seem perfectly ordinary until you find their human eyebrow collection. None of that here.
Plus the big obvious set pieces quickly become absurd if you look at them for very long. I think the fact that nobody reacts to you in those bits is supposed to be creepy, but for me it just made it less threatening and kinda silly instead. It would have been fucking terrifying if the crazy guy just standing there banging his head on the wall suddenly turned round and attacked, or stared at you or something. But again, nope. It feels too fake. Kinda like when you see a picture of the actor playing the villain in a film, being all smiley and having a laugh with the other actors. It makes it much more difficult to take them seriously.
Basically, horror monsters either work when they're completely incomprehensible, like Alien the first film, Lovecraftian creatures, Slenderman, and so on. Or when they're completely believable, like real serial killers. When you're somewhere between the two, you risk losing both the fear of the believable threat, and the fear of the unknown. And that's what Outlast did.
Plus the big obvious set pieces quickly become absurd if you look at them for very long. I think the fact that nobody reacts to you in those bits is supposed to be creepy, but for me it just made it less threatening and kinda silly instead. It would have been fucking terrifying if the crazy guy just standing there banging his head on the wall suddenly turned round and attacked, or stared at you or something. But again, nope. It feels too fake. Kinda like when you see a picture of the actor playing the villain in a film, being all smiley and having a laugh with the other actors. It makes it much more difficult to take them seriously.
Basically, horror monsters either work when they're completely incomprehensible, like Alien the first film, Lovecraftian creatures, Slenderman, and so on. Or when they're completely believable, like real serial killers. When you're somewhere between the two, you risk losing both the fear of the believable threat, and the fear of the unknown. And that's what Outlast did.
Right now, I'm going to say Ni No Kuni. I got it for free a few weeks ago, and don't get me wrong, there's a certain charm to it that really makes me want to like it. But the story is just meh, despite how much I enjoy the considerably dark circumstance for Oliver's character motivation, it's just too slow going, and it's not giving me a good reason to keep going. That, and the combat is simply horrible, absolutely horrible. I hate it. Can't stand it. I want to like the game, it's really charming, Drippy is legitimately funny, but I just can't bring myself to play it.
There's nothing I hate more than getting a game and not even getting close to finishing it, but it looks like that's what is going to happen with this game. A shame really, considering all the praise I've heard for it.
There's nothing I hate more than getting a game and not even getting close to finishing it, but it looks like that's what is going to happen with this game. A shame really, considering all the praise I've heard for it.
5. Saints Row IV.
After hearing so much hype about the game and how fun and creative it was, I picked up the game and gave it a spin. They were right about the creativity of the game, but what they missed was how sparse it was compared to the tedium of the gameplay.
4. Ni No Kuni
The hybrid combat system is a killer. It's not fun to play, even if there are certain draws.
3. Early Access games.
Screw you guys, I can put this here. This is a marketplace that has burned me too many times, full of scams and lazy developers where even reviews won't fully protect you. I can't blame them too much; why would you create an amazing game when you can sell gamers on an idea and stop development right there? The lack of consumer protection and a set of standards kills this entire market. There are no less than ten games I bought this year that I would consider scams. Stay away from Early Access. Far, far away.
2. Aliens.
This is a game that has impact for me even if I didn't play it by way of its dishonest marketing. Everyone has already tackled all the issues with it. My big concerns are how it affects us as an industry.
1. Bioshock Infinite.
Overly pretentious story told in the least intuitive way possible. The gunplay is atrocious, the way you're railroaded from plot point to plot is lazy design. The story seems like they're making it up as they go, and the repetition of the game takes its toll far before the game even starts to get into the thick of it. The reason I hate it so much is that people are praising it so much. It's a bad game, even terrible. Yet because it's Bioshock, it not only gets a pass, but it gets people putting it on a pedestal. We can do better than this, and we should pressure developers to do better than this. This isn't worth more than a 7 out of 10 at best.
After hearing so much hype about the game and how fun and creative it was, I picked up the game and gave it a spin. They were right about the creativity of the game, but what they missed was how sparse it was compared to the tedium of the gameplay.
4. Ni No Kuni
The hybrid combat system is a killer. It's not fun to play, even if there are certain draws.
3. Early Access games.
Screw you guys, I can put this here. This is a marketplace that has burned me too many times, full of scams and lazy developers where even reviews won't fully protect you. I can't blame them too much; why would you create an amazing game when you can sell gamers on an idea and stop development right there? The lack of consumer protection and a set of standards kills this entire market. There are no less than ten games I bought this year that I would consider scams. Stay away from Early Access. Far, far away.
2. Aliens.
This is a game that has impact for me even if I didn't play it by way of its dishonest marketing. Everyone has already tackled all the issues with it. My big concerns are how it affects us as an industry.
1. Bioshock Infinite.
Overly pretentious story told in the least intuitive way possible. The gunplay is atrocious, the way you're railroaded from plot point to plot is lazy design. The story seems like they're making it up as they go, and the repetition of the game takes its toll far before the game even starts to get into the thick of it. The reason I hate it so much is that people are praising it so much. It's a bad game, even terrible. Yet because it's Bioshock, it not only gets a pass, but it gets people putting it on a pedestal. We can do better than this, and we should pressure developers to do better than this. This isn't worth more than a 7 out of 10 at best.
The story was pretty bad (Lets have Deckard Cain get killed by a character that does sweet f.a. after the beginning of the Second Act).soren7550 said:
But how the heck was Diablo 3 easy? Unless you mean post nerf, in which case I agree wholeheartedly, but before the nerfs came in Diablo 3 was nails, especially when using a Witch Doctor.
But this is entirely moot as D3 came out in 2012, not 2013.
Half-Life 3
When it wasn't released I was sooo disappointed
C'mon Valve you can be great again, stop fucking up so much by not releasing games, dammit!
P.S. To be honest HL3 is my most disappointing game of the year since HL2:EP2
P.P.S. Also it shares position with System Shock 3 and Battlezone 3
When it wasn't released I was sooo disappointed
C'mon Valve you can be great again, stop fucking up so much by not releasing games, dammit!
P.S. To be honest HL3 is my most disappointing game of the year since HL2:EP2
P.P.S. Also it shares position with System Shock 3 and Battlezone 3
GTA5/Online: it should have been the best game, it was a fantastic game, but playing it made me feel Greasy and uncomfortable. There are anti heroes and then there is playing as he equivalent of a holocaust denier ticked me off, not only that, the heists, by far the best part of the game, show up for like 20 mins and only really make you feel sad that there are not more of them.
Its a good game.. but it was am 8/10 that should have been a 10/10.
Its a good game.. but it was am 8/10 that should have been a 10/10.
Bioshock: Infinite. The story.
I basically expected the combat to work about like I saw. Corridors, neat guns, maybe a little more environmental interaction but it worked well enough.
But I wanted a romance. Hero saves princess, they meet-cute or whatever you call it, they bone. And that's largely what the trailers suggested. But apparently if the box doesn't advertise in big bright shiny letters 'ROMANCE!', you aint getting one. Instead, everybody's a monster for reasons that are rarely explained well and everything's awful.
There's some hand-wavey 'But that's the point!' going on, but I don't believe it. Everybody's up in arms about princesses and love stories now, so we can't have them anymore. We can have strippers in DNF, we can have brofists, and we can have heroes. But we cannot have the kind of love that would imply an emotional attachment and heterosexual sex unless that is half the selling point of the game (the ME series, for example). That bums me out.
I basically expected the combat to work about like I saw. Corridors, neat guns, maybe a little more environmental interaction but it worked well enough.
But I wanted a romance. Hero saves princess, they meet-cute or whatever you call it, they bone. And that's largely what the trailers suggested. But apparently if the box doesn't advertise in big bright shiny letters 'ROMANCE!', you aint getting one. Instead, everybody's a monster for reasons that are rarely explained well and everything's awful.
There's some hand-wavey 'But that's the point!' going on, but I don't believe it. Everybody's up in arms about princesses and love stories now, so we can't have them anymore. We can have strippers in DNF, we can have brofists, and we can have heroes. But we cannot have the kind of love that would imply an emotional attachment and heterosexual sex unless that is half the selling point of the game (the ME series, for example). That bums me out.
The only problem either the boyfriend or I encountered was with the Goatmen section, the rest of the game we breezed through (and no, we weren't on Easy, and we have never played any Diablo game before).Vedrenne said:
And it still counts since we played it on the console version, which came out in 2013.
I don't know why people had such high expectations for infinite after bioshock 2 anyway. Played it, the combat was fun - not well designed but a lot of FUN - and the plot was fine but kinda fell apart at the end.
Well then again I don't really understand the concept of hyping anyway. Maybe I'm just dead inside, but I don't go into a game with some immense sense of excitement. Why the hell would I?
The primary evidence for a games quality is actually playing the damn game since quality is entirely subjective in most areas, it doesn't matter if it got praised to the skies, you're an individual and you might not like it.
The highest point excitement should reach before you actually play a game is "this seems interesting, I'll give it a try".
Well then again I don't really understand the concept of hyping anyway. Maybe I'm just dead inside, but I don't go into a game with some immense sense of excitement. Why the hell would I?
The primary evidence for a games quality is actually playing the damn game since quality is entirely subjective in most areas, it doesn't matter if it got praised to the skies, you're an individual and you might not like it.
The highest point excitement should reach before you actually play a game is "this seems interesting, I'll give it a try".
That was my issue with it. I was loving the story, and the acting, the writing, and so on, but the gameplay just annoyed the shit out of me. I had to just stop playing, despite how much I was enjoying the story. I'd much rather have someone play this game for me. Sadly, I feel that about all Naughty Dog games. The gameplay just isn't... fun, I guess.chstens said:
GTAV/Online for me.
2 out of 3 character where fun to play as and written pretty well, but damn the storyline (if there was one) isn't memorable, No replay value and the Online part is just downright broken/unfun. Overhyped bullcrap in my (blatant but) honest oppinion.
I enjoy'd the 30 hours I've put in it (again due to 2out of 3 fun to play as characters) but it left me with the feeling that I should've never bought it, just like I had with Halo4. Both games grew stale really quick.
2 out of 3 character where fun to play as and written pretty well, but damn the storyline (if there was one) isn't memorable, No replay value and the Online part is just downright broken/unfun. Overhyped bullcrap in my (blatant but) honest oppinion.
I enjoy'd the 30 hours I've put in it (again due to 2out of 3 fun to play as characters) but it left me with the feeling that I should've never bought it, just like I had with Halo4. Both games grew stale really quick.
Bioshock infinite. I suppose its a good game in its own right but I feel like it lost all of the charm I had come to expect from the bioshock series. Everything just felt hollow. Some of that might be my fault for riding the hype train for two years straight but I still have not finished that game due to getting bored, not playing for a few months and then starting over because I can't remember what is going on in the story.
I think I'm going to take the wild-card choice by picking Game & Wario. It looked pretty neat and I thought I'd get more out of it but as it turned out, it was just another compilation of shallow tech demos. At least Nintendo Land was included with my Wii U and now Wii U's are being sold with 2 actual games! Then wasn't it revealed that some Game & Wario games were meant to be bundled onto the Wii U hardware as their own apps? I can't remember which...
Gears Of War Judgment
Seriously, the announcement trailer made it look like hardcore, rough and tumble Gears of War, exactly what a Gears game should be. And it's not that it wasn't that but it took out so many things that made Gears great. There's way too many problems I have with it so I'm just going to leave my biggest problem: They took out the curb stomp.
Anyway.
God of War Ascension
To be fair, it's not really a bad game, but it is easily the weakest God Of War console game to date. I was going to call it the weakest God Of War game but I haven't played the PSP games so I don't know.
Seriously, the announcement trailer made it look like hardcore, rough and tumble Gears of War, exactly what a Gears game should be. And it's not that it wasn't that but it took out so many things that made Gears great. There's way too many problems I have with it so I'm just going to leave my biggest problem: They took out the curb stomp.
Anyway.
God of War Ascension
To be fair, it's not really a bad game, but it is easily the weakest God Of War console game to date. I was going to call it the weakest God Of War game but I haven't played the PSP games so I don't know.
'teamcharlie said:
I knew bioshock infinite wouldn't do that because of all the uproar and, like last of us, they want to be seen as some kind of saviour of gaming so they didn't do that.
But it does bother me that I know of no game in existence that does romance well. It happens in movies, books even real life but not in games and this annoys me.
OT: Probably bioshock infinite as the more I reflect on it the more I forget the story, characters and gameplay. I feel it relied too much on the appearance and voice acting of elizabeth to endear her to us but the writing is subpar and she doesn't feel like much of a character.
Also the gameplay is exceptionally dull and samey and feels completely isolated from the story. Almost like turn based combat in final fantasy felt compared to the cutscenes.
So, Bioshock Infinite, most hated game of the year? Gotcha. I loved it, personally, you ain't gon' change my mind, then again I wasn't about the hype-train.
As such, I haven't been disappointed this year.
As such, I haven't been disappointed this year.
You might be surprised coming from a hardcore XCOM fan with many hours in game and playing only Impossible Ironman.
Unfortunately I cannot but admit the horrible bugs the game still has that makes ironman become iron-nerves, the unplayability and exploitation of multi-player to the point of making the ranked matches totally a joke (and me begging on Steam discussions to find a friend to multi-play because it IS still, fun, damn it...). The crashes of Enemy Within, OMG THE CRASHES! And the lack of a Map Editor tool or an official modding support that would replace the lack of random generated maps for keeping the suspense and re-playability (like the good old UFO Defense).
If all these were fixed and addressed, I think it would be wining this year's Readers Choice.
It is the kind of blind passion, what you love is what you hate at the same time.
Dunno if anyone has felt this.
Unfortunately I cannot but admit the horrible bugs the game still has that makes ironman become iron-nerves, the unplayability and exploitation of multi-player to the point of making the ranked matches totally a joke (and me begging on Steam discussions to find a friend to multi-play because it IS still, fun, damn it...). The crashes of Enemy Within, OMG THE CRASHES! And the lack of a Map Editor tool or an official modding support that would replace the lack of random generated maps for keeping the suspense and re-playability (like the good old UFO Defense).
If all these were fixed and addressed, I think it would be wining this year's Readers Choice.
It is the kind of blind passion, what you love is what you hate at the same time.
Dunno if anyone has felt this.
X-Rebirth
I was burned by SimCity and Rome 2 but nothing, NOTHING pissed me off like X-Rebirth did. Most of the features were either broken or missing. Saves constantly getting corrupted and if anyone knows anything about a X game, you don't want to lose your saves after putting lots of time into a game. The game also can't even run at decent fps. Most I could ever get it to was around 25 and that is with a Nvidia 780.
I've tried to get a refund but Steam just keeps saying no. Still trying even though quite a few have managed to.
I was burned by SimCity and Rome 2 but nothing, NOTHING pissed me off like X-Rebirth did. Most of the features were either broken or missing. Saves constantly getting corrupted and if anyone knows anything about a X game, you don't want to lose your saves after putting lots of time into a game. The game also can't even run at decent fps. Most I could ever get it to was around 25 and that is with a Nvidia 780.
I've tried to get a refund but Steam just keeps saying no. Still trying even though quite a few have managed to.