Most Evil Human In History Aside From the Big Two

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Alexander the Great. Why, because he enslaved millions. Was he a good leader, yes. Was he proof that homosexuals aren't all stereotypes, yes. Was he a great warrior, yes. Was he good in bed, most likely.

But he still committed crimes, he still was a bad person because of it, and while I may have respect for his ability in battle I still can not forgive anyone who enslave sentient beings of any race. Slavery is wrong and I will always hateful of anyone who encourages it.

It was the most common thing in his time, and it's not like he "specifically" ordered his Generals to take slaves, it was just common practice.

That's like people in the future saying, "I can't believe people enslave SHEEP for WOOL, they're so evil!"

Alexander the Great was a kind Tyrant, if that makes sense...

 

[Blatherscythe]

Well, first of all Stalin wasn't that evil. I know that or sure, since I'm Russian.

Well, if I started talking about Russian historical figures I can safely say Ivan the Terrible. Not only he was a crazy dictator, he also murdered his own son, ending the Ruricovich dynasty.

Also he was a crappy politician, most of the wars he started has cost Russia a lot of land

You need to study Stalin my friend in a serious way. Your opinion of him will probably change... FAST.

I know Stalins basic biography, I was told by the old folks that at the Stalin times anybody could by picked and get taken to execution for no real reason, also some woman got stuck for her entire life in prison for placing Stalins portrait to close to the toilet. Yea he was an asshole, yet he wasn't such a bad politic. He helped Russia survive WW2, and other countries as well.

Stalin coward away in a cottage in the country while the Nazi war machine tore up his country and slaughtered his under prepared people. When he finally had the balls to act his solution to the problem amounted to throw bodies at it, because Russia has a lot more bodies than the Nazi's had. Here's some of his ground rules for troops fending off Nazi invaders. If you didn't suicide charge towards the enemy, you were shot, get captured, they'd shoot you, survive a battle that was lost, you were shot. He couldn't even outfit his troops properly, he needed American's to pick up the slack and give him some guns and even then it wasn't enough. Russian firearms distribution plan; 1 soldier gets a gun and some bullets, another soldier gets bullets, the one after that gets more bullets, when soldier 1 dies, 2 picks up the gun and uses it until he dies then 3 takes the gun. Stalin sucked, period.

This isn't what really happened, well it did, but differently . Sometime before WW2 USSR and Germany made a contract saying that they will not attack and of course they broke the contract and started the war, it was a surprise attack. Second, USSR was facing an economical crisis at the moment. Before the war USSR wasn't the monster America knew in the cold war.

I think this threat is kinda pointless. There is no black and white understanding of the human conciseness, even monsters like Hitler contributed to the world in a curtain way. I in no way agree with Hitlers understanding of "The perfect world" and killing millions of people for his black and white understanding is just inhuman.

Technology did advance for 20 years after WW2 and America the USSR got out of there economical crease's and became the biggest (and the baddest) nations out there. What what?!

Yep, Stalin's five year plan fucked up the Russian economy and I know that Germany and Russia had a treaty to not attack one another and to joint attack Poland. Stalin however, was not instrumental to the defeat of Nazi Germany, the citizens of Russia were.

He didn't do anything to the economy, USSR had an economical crisis since 1917. Why do much hate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Year_Plans_for_the_National_Economy_of_the_Soviet_Union

The USSR eventually caught up with the rest of the world after millions of deaths cause by these five year plans.

 

[Level 7 Dragon]

Well, first of all Stalin wasn't that evil. I know that or sure, since I'm Russian.

Well, if I started talking about Russian historical figures I can safely say Ivan the Terrible. Not only he was a crazy dictator, he also murdered his own son, ending the Ruricovich dynasty.

Also he was a crappy politician, most of the wars he started has cost Russia a lot of land

You need to study Stalin my friend in a serious way. Your opinion of him will probably change... FAST.

I know Stalins basic biography, I was told by the old folks that at the Stalin times anybody could by picked and get taken to execution for no real reason, also some woman got stuck for her entire life in prison for placing Stalins portrait to close to the toilet. Yea he was an asshole, yet he wasn't such a bad politic. He helped Russia survive WW2, and other countries as well.

Stalin coward away in a cottage in the country while the Nazi war machine tore up his country and slaughtered his under prepared people. When he finally had the balls to act his solution to the problem amounted to throw bodies at it, because Russia has a lot more bodies than the Nazi's had. Here's some of his ground rules for troops fending off Nazi invaders. If you didn't suicide charge towards the enemy, you were shot, get captured, they'd shoot you, survive a battle that was lost, you were shot. He couldn't even outfit his troops properly, he needed American's to pick up the slack and give him some guns and even then it wasn't enough. Russian firearms distribution plan; 1 soldier gets a gun and some bullets, another soldier gets bullets, the one after that gets more bullets, when soldier 1 dies, 2 picks up the gun and uses it until he dies then 3 takes the gun. Stalin sucked, period.

This isn't what really happened, well it did, but differently . Sometime before WW2 USSR and Germany made a contract saying that they will not attack and of course they broke the contract and started the war, it was a surprise attack. Second, USSR was facing an economical crisis at the moment. Before the war USSR wasn't the monster America knew in the cold war.

I think this threat is kinda pointless. There is no black and white understanding of the human conciseness, even monsters like Hitler contributed to the world in a curtain way. I in no way agree with Hitlers understanding of "The perfect world" and killing millions of people for his black and white understanding is just inhuman.

Technology did advance for 20 years after WW2 and America the USSR got out of there economical crease's and became the biggest (and the baddest) nations out there. What what?!

Yep, Stalin's five year plan fucked up the Russian economy and I know that Germany and Russia had a treaty to not attack one another and to joint attack Poland. Stalin however, was not instrumental to the defeat of Nazi Germany, the citizens of Russia were.

He didn't do anything to the economy, USSR had an economical crisis since 1917. Why do much hate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Year_Plans_for_the_National_Economy_of_the_Soviet_Union

The USSR eventually caught up with the rest of the world after millions of deaths cause by these five year plans.

May I remind you that America did a similar thing to catch up the economy? Don't get me started on Gorge Bush...

P.S: Ivan the Terrible was a dictator like Stalin, only instead of fixing an economical crisis he started one. Ok, this is getting to far. If we look at a larger scale in history there wore people way worse then Stalin, we are nobody judge complex politics. Before quoting me and posting another fact, watch a movie called "Watchman". Honestly watch it, you won't be sorry.

Even if you prove that Stalin was "a bad guy" you will not change anything? All the greatest civilizations wore build on bones, Russia is no exception. Nobody knows when there was more killing, before or after USSR.

There is no "Bad" people, no matter if you see a person as a good or bad if you take him out of history the world will not be as we know it now. This reminds me of another forum topic called "Would you kill baby Hitler?" Check it out, it has some good points. Plus, if you look up in to the history books there are people way worse then Stalin. Chin Gis Han for instance (I hope I'm spelling it correctly) So, there is no big two. I really don't want to start an argument here, since they say war is the very last action of diplomacy. Hehe.

 

[dreddfan]

Pedophiles? Oh come on OP, you can't help being retarded just like you can't help being a pedophilia. At least that's what Wikipedia tells me...

Anyway, I have no idea. My definition of 'evil' isn't fixed.

Sounds like you took a lot of offense there, something you want to tell us? And calling me retarded? Why? Some Pedophiles are more sick and dangerous than just people with a fetish.

Anyone who finds under-age children sexually attractive is pure evil in my book.

 

[crazyfills]

Could you explain why? it seems an odd choice over say vlad the implaler for as far as I am aware rage have never actualy hurt anyone

 

[ScoopMeister]

Elizabeth Bathory

She kidnapped virgin peasants and bathed in their blood.

It technically wasn't her fault. I mean she was a vampire after all.
So yeah, I'll go with Idi Amin, too. Not only was he a greedy monster, but he was also an idiot who couldn't run a country if his life depended on it, and he called himself the uncrowned King of Scotland and Conqueror of the British Empire. Let me just quote his full, self-appointed title:
'His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular". Is it me or does that sound like a child made that up? 'I wanna be lord of the fishies!'

 

[ScoopMeister]

The members of Rage Against the Machine.

Fucking hypocritical, backwards notioned, unintelligent, dishonest bastards. I'll take warfare over these corproate guzzlers any day of the week.

Regardless, their music is good. And they don't qualify as evil just because you dislike them.

Well, tied at the top are Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin, with Adolf Hitler coming close behind.

Could you please explain how Stalin was worse than Hitler? I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm just curious as to why you see it like that.

 

[New York Patrick]

Mao Zedong.

I second that. That guy was a sick egotistical bastard who killed tens of millions and made many more suffer because he desired such. For what? Politics? Vanity? Neglect?

That man was a monster.

DING DING DING! An explination. I read about the guy, he wanted to be the figure head of Communism when Stalin died. Yes because Communism definatly wants to have leaders elevated above the rest (sarcasm), Mao, like Stalin, butchered Marx's idea to exploit a nation and create an enviroment of fear and control that still lives to this day. I think with how many dictators exploit the ideals of Communism Marx must be constantly shifting around in his grave.

My favourite part was when he organized a people's movement to depose all of his opponents in the communist party... and then when he took power, he used the Army to whipe out most of the people who helped eliminate his opposition.

 

[New York Patrick]

Alexander the Great. Why, because he enslaved millions. Was he a good leader, yes. Was he proof that homosexuals aren't all stereotypes, yes. Was he a great warrior, yes. Was he good in bed, most likely.

But he still committed crimes, he still was a bad person because of it, and while I may have respect for his ability in battle I still can not forgive anyone who enslave sentient beings of any race. Slavery is wrong and I will always hateful of anyone who encourages it.

See, the definition of "slavery" contemporary to Alexander's time period was different than, lets say, slavery in the 1800s. You were basically the same as a local working class peasant... in fact, occasionally you led a better lifestyle than most working class peasants. (Moreso true in Roman times) a vast percentage of slaves were teachers, personal assistants, general house staff, secretaries, etc. The concept of slaves working in mines or something in horrible conditions is really not accurate to this time period or culture; Neither Alexander nor the Romans actually oversaw or managed any of their primary industrial process, most of which was done at the very edge of their empires, or in a foreign land altogether, and shipped in via trade routes.

And... enslaving MILLIONS? Conquering millions, yes. It is unlikely that he would have been able to ENSLAVE millions (which he didn't), simply due to population and resource constraints to manage that... let alone manpower...

While slavery is wrong, in the time period he lived in, it was a social norm. And to accuse Alexander, who himself was rather socially progressive and down to earth for his time period, of being evil on the basis of practicing slavery... in Ancient Greece... is a fallacy.

If Alexander was "evil," than several random dutch and portuguese merchants from the 1600s and 1700s must be the equivilent to some sort of satanic cosmic horror of unspeakable purportions.

 

[Blatherscythe]

The members of Rage Against the Machine.

Fucking hypocritical, backwards notioned, unintelligent, dishonest bastards. I'll take warfare over these corproate guzzlers any day of the week.

Regardless, their music is good. And they don't qualify as evil just because you dislike them.

Well, tied at the top are Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin, with Adolf Hitler coming close behind.

Could you please explain how Stalin was worse than Hitler? I'm not attacking you or anything, I'm just curious as to why you see it like that.

Stalin killed more people in possibly crueler ways due to how drawn out your torment in his labour camps were.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Elizabeth Bathory

She kidnapped virgin peasants and bathed in their blood.

It technically wasn't her fault. I mean she was a vampire after all.
So yeah, I'll go with Idi Amin, too. Not only was he a greedy monster, but he was also an idiot who couldn't run a country if his life depended on it, and he called himself the uncrowned King of Scotland and Conqueror of the British Empire. Let me just quote his full, self-appointed title:
'His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular". Is it me or does that sound like a child made that up? 'I wanna be lord of the fishies!'

Woah, that is a mouthful of a title, I almost forgot about that part. What a vain fat bastard. Also, not to sound racist but that picture makes him look like a gorrila, though I think a gorrila is smarter.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Mao Zedong.

I second that. That guy was a sick egotistical bastard who killed tens of millions and made many more suffer because he desired such. For what? Politics? Vanity? Neglect?

That man was a monster.

DING DING DING! An explination. I read about the guy, he wanted to be the figure head of Communism when Stalin died. Yes because Communism definatly wants to have leaders elevated above the rest (sarcasm), Mao, like Stalin, butchered Marx's idea to exploit a nation and create an enviroment of fear and control that still lives to this day. I think with how many dictators exploit the ideals of Communism Marx must be constantly shifting around in his grave.

My favourite part was when he organized a people's movement to depose all of his opponents in the communist party... and then when he took power, he used the Army to whipe out most of the people who helped eliminate his opposition.

Can't quite remember that much. The book I read was more of a short biography of what he did, a bunch of pages spanning roughly 3 chapters per segment of basicly his early life, rise to power, life in his reign and his possible fall or if he still lives, his current doings.

 

[Kryzantine]

Emperor Hirohito of Japan:
Hirohito was the Emporer of Japan from 1926 to 1989. In 1937, Japanese troops committed the war crime that is now known as the Rape of Nanking (the then Capital of China, now known as Nanjing). The duration of the massacre is not clearly defined, although the violence lasted well into the next six weeks, until early February 1938. During the occupation of Nanjing, the Japanese army committed numerous atrocities, such as rape, looting, arson and the execution of prisoners of war and civilians. A large number of women and children were also killed, as rape and murder became more widespread. The death toll is generally considered to be between 150,000 and 300,000.

To be perfectly fair, the rape of Nanking could be attributed to culture. From 1905-1945, Japan was an imperialistic nation that abided by its ancient codes of combat. Their style of warfare was indigenous to their own nation. You can hardly blame the Emperor for the raping of Nanjing. Also consider that he fought off a military coup so he could surrender peacefully to the Americans before America and the USSR would destroy them.

As for my vote? I'm going to have to say Pol Pot. Cambodia was transformed, over the span of 3 years, into a complete cesspool, and the country is still reeling from the effects of Pol Pot today. He just executed anyone who didn't agree with him. As someone mentioned already, he killed 1/5 of his nation, filling lakes with the skulls of the dead.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Hitler and Stalin werent all that bad. they statred out good, and I'll tell you one thing, I'd do history the same way again, maybe just scale back the crazy abit for both. Hitler helped to pull German out of a depression from WW1, and in all honesty, he'd go down as a dam good leader if he hadnt gone all kill the jews and other people I cant care for. stalin, well, he was alright. he had good intentions, but in the end it came down to a lower value of human life to the individual and a lacking concept and availability of both tech and basic principles.

OT: I dont know, there's a lot of good (well, i guess bad) examples. Caligula for one, a few of the Islamic leaders way back when Europe decided to fight over a scrap of land that today isnt really worth it (Catholic by the way). you could say William Tecumsah Sherman.

... But I'll settle on the trio of King Henry the VIII, Edward VI, and Mary I. Just cause of what they did to their kingdom while they had their little measurements with the church.

And maybe Brigham Young. Nothing against the Mormons, but that guy was a bastard.

 

[Chrisscogg_teh_Newbie]

any and all trolls :3 also liberals.

 

[Blatherscythe]

any and all trolls :3 also liberals.

By just saying liberals are evil without cause and probably to arouse anger I belive you are trolling.

Accurate representation of the above poster.

 

[Chrisscogg_teh_Newbie]

any and all trolls :3 also liberals.

By just saying liberals are evil without cause and probably to arouse anger I belive you are trolling.

Accurate representation of the above poster.

okay, yeah. They're not "evil" just misguided, same can be said about feminists. but I don't want to talk about them. Anyway, what realy constitutes "evil." Looking over the thread I see that Hitler and Stalin coming up a lot. Doesn't anyone know that both *belived* that they were doing the right thing for their people (Ayrans and Communists, resectivly), they just happened to hurt a lot of people either on accident or not. Don't think I'm a nazi or a commie or anything, cuz I'm not. I'm just sayin' the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Think about it. On a side note, I tend to side with the conservitives.

 

[wolas3214]

Probably vlad the impaler.

Anal impalement that killed you via gravity.
Seasones his bread with blood.
he literally had forests of impaled people
brutal conqueror.
Inspiration for friggin' dracula.


He's pretty high up on my evil monster list.

 

[DannibalG36]

Mao Zedong.

And why the hell did someone get banned for posting this guy? Mao was a sick fuck who engineered the death of millions in the name of creating a socialist paradise. That's pretty evil.

And he also had sex with lots of young girls in his old age, all in the name of producing a genetic heir. That may not be as evil as genocide, but it's still fucked up to an extraordinary degree.

 

[DannibalG36]

Incidentally, I hardly suppose we'd be listing Hitler as an evil dude if we were proud, Aryan gamers living in a Nazi state. Evil is perspective-based, and we'd do well to remember it.