Most obvious plot hole.

[Littlee300]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

1. They want to mine the area, nuking it from orbit is not conducive to civilian mining efforts. Even kinetic energy weapons are likely to really screw up the mining options.

2. Bad strategy, fine you've now got this tank with guns etc, whats to stop a couple na'vi climbing on the tank from behind bashing the hatch open with rocks and knifing the crew to death?

3. I always thought of this in terms of velocity, when the na'vi's arrows are bouncing off the helo's they're firing along ballistic trajectories from stationary ground positions, the arrows lose a lot of power in flight due to wind/gravity/etc and hit the targets at odd angles. When they're popping arrows through helo's they're on those bird things, firing directly while diving, higher initial speed = higher potential damage added to by gravity, still lessened by wind resistance but what the hell right?

Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a ***** in space!

Also I would argue that the bows and arrows are hunting tools not war tools, Jake likely would have had them increase the draw strength and sharpen the arrows for a better armour piercing effect, but since this wasn't shown in the movie... *shrugs*

4. If you genuinely believe 'the bad guys won' take some classes on morality and see a shrink.

Edited to add cool paraphrase.

1. It is better then fucking losing (And as i said in another post we are already killing earth without much remorse with not recycling and our cars etc)
2. Wait does their planets have like really tough rocks? (I don't think a sword can even do that) Anyways that tank driver deserves to die if he can't machine gun that navi climbing up
on the tank like it is no ones buisness
3. WE use stem cells to revive Isaac Newton and have him be general!
4. That was mostly a joke and you don't have to be pretentious. I am rooting for my race, sue me.

 

[Littlee300]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

Couple of answers to your questions are available on the official site.
1) Orbital weaponry is banned from use by the corporation's interstellar exploitation contract - they're not allowed to sail over the galaxy nuking shit

Oh so we are able to kill Earth with pollution but we can't fucking kill a foreign planet? ( I just I just)

 

[Woodsey]

Star Trek 2009

How the hell does that red stuff create black holes and time travel?

District 9

How the hell does that red stuff work as spaceship fuel and turning you into one of the prawns?

Neither of those are plot-holes.

 

[Littlee300]

4. If you genuinely believe 'the bad guys won' take some classes on morality and see a shrink.

Edited to add cool paraphrase.

Morals are subjective and you only make them up.
Ha I love that bull shit line you can't argue with.

 

[Littlee300]

I just remembered one of my own, but it's not that
HALO: REACH

Spoiler

The Package: Yes, it's Cortana in her 26th-century USB drive. She's not the Forerunner MacGuffin. She's decrypting/analyzing/doing something with the data on the artifact and eventually cracks the location of Installation 04 and learns that it's a Forerunner weapon, so she reroutes the Pillar of Autumn when it slips out of system and then Halo 1 begins.

Plot Hole: There's no in-game indication that Jun got to safety with Dr. Halsey. A radio call to say "We're safe; see you in orbit, Noble Six" would have been nice.

Actually Dr.Halsey is rescued by master chief but I don't think he rescued Jun too.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Master_chief Source for proof since some of escapist usually gets anal if I don't.

 

[Nvv]

I think the story takes places over about a year. No? It's been a while I'll admit. So I agree with that in mind your point makes a loooooot of sense. Tolkien had an explanation of Eagles not meddling in human affairs too much but it was pretty.... lame.

Jesus dying on top of a tower? Yeah, lets meddle there. Billions of other people's suffering and lives on the line? No, lets pass. That Jesus guy can handle it.

That is actually since Gandalf is a friend of the Eagles after he healed the son of the Eagle King. And some other complicated thing about the Valar I won't go into. (But linked to not meddling with human affairs)

 

[pat34us]

I just read all of this thread and you all fail for not mentioning the Matrix trilogy (esp 3) There were so many plot holes part three was swiss cheese.

Also, FF13 (possibly to obvious)

 

[oveper]

So, I've been meaning to ask all the Escapists about this one for ages. It's Halo Reach.

Spoiler: Massive Halo: Reach Spoilers

Okay, so in the second last mission of the game it's revealed that that Doctor Lady has discovered something underground in an alien temple, a "latchkey discovery" she calls it. Turns out it's Cortana, the AI you spend the rest of the entire Halo series hanging out with. So the final mission is to deliver this AI to Captain Keyes, on the Pillar of Autumn. As everyone knows, this is the ship you (the Master Chief) is on at the beginning of the first Halo game. It's explained at the beginning of that game that the Pillar of Autumn did a pretty much random slip space drive jump to avoid leading the Covenant fleet to Earth. Your job is then to escort Cortana off the ship and avoid the enemy capturing her.
SO the problem is: HOW THE HELL DOES CORTANA KNOW ALL THIS STUFF? We just dug her out of the ground a few hours ago, tops! Yet she acts like she's known the Captain, the crew and the Covenant for years! She apparently even knows Master Chief, who's been in cryo genic sleep the whole time!

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the manual for Combat Evolved straight up tells you Cortana is one of the most advanced AI's ever constructed by the human race. But we just dug her up! And how on earth did she "choose" the Master Chief as the Spartan she wanted to "work with"?! And what did she mean by "work with"?! She just got dug up, she has no idea where she's going, she has no idea they'll accidently end up at the first Halo ring, she has no idea what it does!

I'm sorry, I loved Reach, but the discovery that the pay load was Cortana was totally bogus. It was a pointless "Aha!" moment directed at fan boys at the complete expense of the continuity of the storyline.

[/rant]

Probably been explained by a few people by now, but I'm to lazy to read trough all the pages.
Cortana wasnt dug up, she split herself in two and one of her went with Halsey to collect the data in the ruins while the other part stayed with Keyes on the Pillar of Autumn. I think it is explained in Halseys journal that comes with the collectors edition of Reach.

 

[deonte9109]

In regards to the second spoiler, God is good but he is also just. According to the Bible he cant just straight forgive sins because that would not be fair. There would have to be a sacrifice that would be equal to atonement ie Jesus. Because Jesus was pure and never sinned, his pure sacrifice was neccessary for anyone after him to be able to be redeemed. (not claiming or denouncing any faith just reciting from my old baptist school.

If God is just, then why did he punish the one guy who wasn't a sinner?
Seriously, the writers should have done a better job.

He wasnt punished he offered himself up

 

[Wordsandstuffwillbenexttothis8465]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

1. They want to mine the area, nuking it from orbit is not conducive to civilian mining efforts. Even kinetic energy weapons are likely to really screw up the mining options.

2. Bad strategy, fine you've now got this tank with guns etc, whats to stop a couple na'vi climbing on the tank from behind bashing the hatch open with rocks and knifing the crew to death?

3. I always thought of this in terms of velocity, when the na'vi's arrows are bouncing off the helo's they're firing along ballistic trajectories from stationary ground positions, the arrows lose a lot of power in flight due to wind/gravity/etc and hit the targets at odd angles. When they're popping arrows through helo's they're on those bird things, firing directly while diving, higher initial speed = higher potential damage added to by gravity, still lessened by wind resistance but what the hell right?

Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a ***** in space!

Also I would argue that the bows and arrows are hunting tools not war tools, Jake likely would have had them increase the draw strength and sharpen the arrows for a better armour piercing effect, but since this wasn't shown in the movie... *shrugs*

4. If you genuinely believe 'the bad guys won' take some classes on morality and see a shrink.

Edited to add cool paraphrase.

Morality does not have a definition. It is entirely subjective and dependent on ones views on the world. Stop thinking "My morals = THE morals".

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

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You know you could of just said: Resident Evil: The Movie right?

OT: Why didn't the entire police deparment just look over the boats at least in the Dark Knight before moving people with it?

 

[Wicky_42]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

Couple of answers to your questions are available on the official site.
1) Orbital weaponry is banned from use by the corporation's interstellar exploitation contract - they're not allowed to sail over the galaxy nuking shit

Oh so we are able to kill Earth with pollution but we can't fucking kill a foreign planet? ( I just I just)

Yep, pretty much. I don't think there's much of a natural ecosystem left on Earth, so there's probably a bit of political pressure there to, at least ostensibly, avoid destroying other habitable worlds. If you think about it, would you let, say, Virgin or Mircosoft get first dibs on interstellar travel, find an almost magically perfect planet with abundant resources, and then nuke it to oblivion? That limit makes sense to me.

 

[Iron Criterion]

Spoiler: Citizen Kane (do I really even need a spoiler?)

Kane utters his last words "Rosebud" yet while no one is around to hear them the film is about trying to discover what his last words mean...The butler even says he was in the room when Kane died but you do not see him and Kane's body is only discovered moments later when his nurse enters.

 

[Zetsubou-Sama]

Transformers 2: So Sam finds out that a piece of the all-spark can resurrect a Transformer, as seen with Megatron, who kills Optimus Prime. So he goes to a Museum with the last shard to revive a senile transformer to tell him how to revive Optimus Prime. Really?

@ LOTR: Gandalf spent almost three books convincing the eagles who didn't want to get involved in the war like the Ents. Which wasn't shown in the movies.

@ Aeris dying. A phoenix down recovers from fainting not death.

@ Dragon Ball: Trunks and Goten were supposed to go with Goku to space, but Pan got inside the ship and launched it before Goten could go inside, leaving Goku with Pan and Trunks

 

[mad825]

Yep, pretty much. I don't think there's much of a natural ecosystem left on Earth, so there's probably a bit of political pressure there to, at least ostensibly, avoid destroying other habitable worlds. If you think about it, would you let, say, Virgin or Mircosoft get first dibs on interstellar travel, find an almost magically perfect planet with abundant resources, and then nuke it to oblivion? That limit makes sense to me.

there a flaw in your logic, there isn't any intent to "nuke it to oblivion" as a simple 5-8 megaton nuke on the tree could've solved the problem in fact, seeing as we are talking about the future they could use neutron bombs that do less damage environment wise (fallout)

plants may be die however there should be basic terraforming technology which even we could produce today.

 

[AloneInTheKeyOfMinor]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

I agree, because after they blow up the tree, you never see them go back and get the minerals.
They could of just done that, and then left, but no, they had to raise a massive air fleet to destroy these already crippled creatures. That military dude is just mean, he got what was coming to him.