Most obvious plot hole.

[Ninja_daemon117]

So, I've been meaning to ask all the Escapists about this one for ages. It's Halo Reach.

Spoiler: Massive Halo: Reach Spoilers

Okay, so in the second last mission of the game it's revealed that that Doctor Lady has discovered something underground in an alien temple, a "latchkey discovery" she calls it. Turns out it's Cortana, the AI you spend the rest of the entire Halo series hanging out with. So the final mission is to deliver this AI to Captain Keyes, on the Pillar of Autumn. As everyone knows, this is the ship you (the Master Chief) is on at the beginning of the first Halo game. It's explained at the beginning of that game that the Pillar of Autumn did a pretty much random slip space drive jump to avoid leading the Covenant fleet to Earth. Your job is then to escort Cortana off the ship and avoid the enemy capturing her.
SO the problem is: HOW THE HELL DOES CORTANA KNOW ALL THIS STUFF? We just dug her out of the ground a few hours ago, tops! Yet she acts like she's known the Captain, the crew and the Covenant for years! She apparently even knows Master Chief, who's been in cryo genic sleep the whole time!

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the manual for Combat Evolved straight up tells you Cortana is one of the most advanced AI's ever constructed by the human race. But we just dug her up! And how on earth did she "choose" the Master Chief as the Spartan she wanted to "work with"?! And what did she mean by "work with"?! She just got dug up, she has no idea where she's going, she has no idea they'll accidently end up at the first Halo ring, she has no idea what it does!

I'm sorry, I loved Reach, but the discovery that the pay load was Cortana was totally bogus. It was a pointless "Aha!" moment directed at fan boys at the complete expense of the continuity of the storyline.

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Spoiler: Halo Reach

Ok, so what...Cortana was made by the Forerunners? What? I mean, I guess that explains how the Autumn's random jump lead them to the Halo(it was random, right?), but I thought she has no idea what the Halos are! Even once she's plugged into it's computer system it takes her a while to figure it out! Well, how does that work? And one other thing! When she's given to Noble team, you see that she's about twice the size of a soda can. Yet when Master Chief recieves her (mere hours after you give her to Keys) she fits in the back of his head! WELL, HOW DOES THAT WORK??!!

I have not made it to this part yet (I really need to finish the campaign), but Cortana's history is covered in the books. She was made well before the invasion of Reach from a scan of Dr.Halsey's brain (I cannot remember the proper technobabbel). She already met Master Chief, the Captain, and the Covenant. She's human tech, not Forerunner. The Autumn's jump wasn't really random...Cortana translated co-ordinates from a Forerunner artifact that the Blue Team Spartans recovered from the Covenant. She was curious, so she used those intead of randomly choosing them.

About the size, I have not seen the scene, but it is notable that Noble Team is mostly comprised of Spartan-IIIs, which are physically smaller than Spartan-IIs. Total shot in the dark, but that may explain the random size change. (For a frame of reference, the big guy is the only Spartan-II on the team).

For the most part this guy is right. The discovery wasn't Cortana but that thing behind Dr Hasley. As for the size difference that, is just them changing stuff (like how in the book the Pillar of Autumn was off planet when the attack arrived.

 

[DarkSoldier84]

Modern Warfare 2: Several.

How did price fire the nuke from the sub alone? Two keys at opposite ends of the craft.
America gets nuked. What do they do? Nothing.

If a psychotic Brit storms your Boomer, wielding an assault rifle, and orders you to fire your missile at the target you've already selected for it, what do you do?

They can read the location of an arms dealer off an exploded bullet casing, yet they can't fucking tell that Shepard perpetrated the whole thing by sending Allen on that mission.
The No Russian mission.

Yeah, I hated that the game implies that they learned all that info off not a bullet casing, but a picture of a bullet casing.

Simple answer: Shepard was the only person in the chain of command dealing with Makarov and the only person who knew about Allen's role as Alexei Borodin.

Why do the members of the airport security/government/ANYONE not check security recordings to check and make sure it wasn't only an American slaughtering people... but instead just invaded the US.

How can you tell the difference between a white Russian and a white American on CCTV? Besides, the Ultranationalist government wanted to attack the US; they reverse-engineered the ACS to hide their fleet from NORAD before the massacre.

Now that you bring it up, how the hell did 4 people get that far into an airport with 4 machine guns?
It's not like they just blast the door open or something, the mission starts in a lift so they're already inside. How do they get in?

Yeah. How do four heavily-armed and armoured men walk into a 21st century airport? They carried it all in their luggage and suited up inside the elevator. Listen before the mission fades in and you'll hear zippers and rustling.

Ooooh, these are just tiny specs compared to the amount of plot holes in this horrible game, such as:

How did the Rangers get from Afghanistan to Virginia in 1-2 days (its not an airplane ride people, its mass friggin transport!)?

The timestamps given are "Day 1" and "Day 2," with no indication of how much time passes between days. Day 2 could be a week after Day 1 for all we know.

What is up with the shitty plot point about the russian steeple tatoo(representing how many years the person has been in prison for), nothing was said this tatto before or after this dumb sentence.

The ink is part of Allen's cover. Alexei Borodin is supposed to be a Russian criminal. That's a Russian criminal tattoo: "Church is the Home of God; Prison is the Home of the Thief."

How could of No Russian happened, HOW!?!?! It says in the beginning that you are a CIA operative, and for you kill 1000s of civilians, even though its common sense that the CIA would have to approve and know EVERY LITTLE DETAIL about any mission that any operative goes on.

The CIA has done a lot of terrible things, but as far as I can tell, it looks like Shepard was the only person dealing with Makarov, so the CIA proper likely didn't know about his job.

WHY DO THEY NOT CHECK THE SECURITY CAMERAS IN NO RUSSIAN! There's even a picture of the incident on select mission screen!

Again, a white American and a white Russian have no physical differences. All they could tell from CCTV is that four men slaughtered everyone while taking only three casualties (Lev, Kiril, "Borodin").

Also, how could they assume that ONE American man managed to take down the entire friggin Russian SWAT force when they find him.

When the Ultranationalists find him and figure out that he's American (I don't know how), they probably jumped to the conclusion that he led the massacre and then mobilized their army.

And at the end of the mission, your so to be known "buddies" get into a hospital car and ESCAPE, how would they DO THAT!?!? There is a friggin police barricade outside, and also, how do the cops not have the common sense to indicate that the car they escaped from came DIRECTLY from the airport during that crisis.

An ambulance with lights and sirens leaves the scene of a horrific massacre. Are you, Mr. FSB Officer, going to pull over an ambulance just because, risking the life of whoever's in the back? You don't interfere in the movement of emergency vehicles during a crisis.

How did they coordinate the mission of Cliffhanger? Did they put the LZ on the other side of a friggin chasm, knowing they would use it?

It's probably a secondary or even tertiary evac point. Had the mission gone properly, you would probably have had a different, easier to reach point.

When Soap and roach find the ACS, shouldnt they friggin tell America about it so they can make a NEW one to lockout the old one and thus prevent the silly supposed unexpected siege they have the GOD DAMNED COAST GUARD and COMMON line of sight, along with sonar and far off satellites.

We don't know how much time passes between Cliffhanger and Wolverines! or how long it takes to change the security codes on NORAD's early-warning systems. Maybe the Russians sunk the Coast Guard before they could send a warning?

How did they manage to evacuate the friggin eastern Seaboard in one DAY!? It would have been interesting if they had a few uncooperative citizens we would have to deal with!

They didn't. It's implied that the Russians are slaughtering American civilians in retaliation for the airport and the only areas we see in game are suburban Virginia and areas around the White House, which would be major evac areas anyway. We don't see what's going on in New York City, for example.

Who in the hell is Raptor and why do we need him? What about the guy dead in the panic room, shouldn't he have already been evacuated?

We can say he's not the President because if he was there would have been a bigger response to Marine One going down (by that I mean every soldier in the area would converge to get him out of there). He's more likely a Cabinet member or the like.

The panic room HVI, dead after a struggle (notice the spent flashbang, the bloody footprints, and the Russian soldier raiding the fridge), had important military intelligence. A dead Russian soldier in the same room has Viktor's face (one of Makarov's guys from the airport). Maybe the intelligence pointed toward the Shepard/Makarov connection.

Also, WTF why does he do this in the first place, all of THIS! So more people join the friggin military?If so, then put the draft effort on if your so god damned short on troops.

Remember how badly the civilians reacted to the draft in the later days of 'Nam? There would be rioting. It's best to let people join on their own instead of being conscripted.

And finally,(as the most plot holes from this crappy game I can remember right now), WTF is up with the horribly put plot point TRYING to link Shepard and the Nuke from COD4 in a damned sentence(at the end) noone ever talked about before, or after he said that

I don't recall this part of MW2.

 

[Mckeown]

i think that the biggest plothole i've ever encountered was near the end of grandia 2, it's a great game, really underrated, but this makes no f*cking sense

Spoiler

right before the final area, millenia (who used to be trapped inside another character), formerly killed and consumed by a giant, moon-sized monster, suddenly pops right out of elena's chest and berates her for not figuring it out sooner, and this is never explained, i made up excuses for a couple of other areas that could make sense when given enough thought from a certain angle, but this just makes no sense, no matter how you look at it, which is annoying because, other than that, it's by far one of my favorite games, i maybe rate it 2nd or 3rd of all the games i've ever played, but this bit just annoys me (but, yay! millenia's back! she's my favorite character

 

[mirror's edgy]

Mirror's Edge

The ending when Faith and her sister are "safe." What happened to the armed soldiers who were behind them ten seconds ago??

 

[Treblaine]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

Why after all that did the Na'vi not massacre all the humans when they over-run their base? Why let them be led away onto THEIR OWN SHIPS!? After all they had done to them? These are not from some pacifist and merciful tribes.

I think it would have made the movie and any sequel far more interesting. I would have given the film some much needed pathos and balance. Oh an Natyri should have died and Sam Worthington should have gone on an animalistic massacre in a murderous rage and finally cementing his descent into a unhuman savagery. Severing all ties he once had with the rest of humanity.

But no, they had to have a god damn Disney ending. It's cheap.

 

[Platypusbill101]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

Just posting because I'm addicted to TVTropes, but:

1: The Corp wasn't a military group, it was simply private contractors made mostly of ex-soldiers. I doubt that they had the ability to attempt orbital bombardment. After all, they seem fairly arrogant, and I doubt the Stockholders would be happy with them packing orbital bombardment weaponry against an enemy armed with bows and arrows.

2: Not exactly sure how they would do that. How would you get a transport through the clouds of Na'vi and their birds? Placing something on the ground makes it vulnerable to attack as well.

3: Maybe some trees have extremely hard wood. In addition, I would expect the draw weight on their bows to be pretty high. And lastly, we don't know for sure if the glass is bulletproof. It may be, but didn't the Rouge Pilot shoot through the glass of the Dragon?

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And to Judgment 101, they were planning on ignoring the Na'vi. Jake screwed that up by rallying the tribes. Had he simply let them disperse, they wouldnt have joined together. But because they did join together to expel the Corp, the Corp had no choice but try and take out what they saw as the "moral center" in an attempt to make them disperse.

1.IF you can travel faster then speed of light you can do whatever the hell you want. At least in my book.
2. How can those tree huggers kill a tank unless with those animals, not even bullets can take out a tank, easy... next!
3. If you don't have bullet proof gas and you are in the space age, how the hell did you travel faster then speed of light? Again how can they sharpen the wood in first place if it is super hard...

1:I don't think that they did have FTL. I think they had just under FTL travel. It took them how many years to make the 4-5 light year journey? And anyways, even if they did have FTL travel, you have to think about storage space.
2id they have tanks? And tanks are slow and difficult to maneuver. In addition, just because you cannot destroy a tank outright doesn't mean that you can render it useless.
3:Just because something is hard doesn't mean you cannot shape it.

Yeah in WWII a Finnish soldier stopped a tank WITH A CROWBAR

 

[thedeathscythe]

Shutter Island. Was it just me, or did you watch 3 trailers and already know the whole thing?

 

[subject_87]

How did the Combine ever take over Earth when they constantly cluster around explosive barrels, stand on platforms that collapse at the slightest impact, etc. and a single mute physicist can completely wreck their shit?

 

[Treblaine]

Why do the members of the airport security/government/ANYONE not check security recordings to check and make sure it wasn't only an American slaughtering people... but instead just invaded the US.

How can you tell the difference between a white Russian and a white American on CCTV? Besides, the Ultranationalist government wanted to attack the US; they reverse-engineered the ACS to hide their fleet from NORAD before the massacre.

Makarov at the time was the world's number 1 most wanted terrorists, both for attacks against USA and against russia. He was a Russian equivalent of Osama Bin Laden. And he perpetrated the attack with no mask or anything concealing his infamous face.

Also why would they even suspect Allen was American, remember he was in DEEP cover as a Russian terrorists, with appropriate tattoos and an entire identity. How could anyone link that body to an American soldier, it makes no sense, how could Russia even make this argument to the world, what would make them even think that? America has no motivation for this and doesn't even follow their MO, no a rag tag terrorist attack, it would be something to do with air-power like shooting down a plane.

And wouldn't it be REALLY god damn suspicious that the one terrorist in the group who was not shooting is found shot in the head in a basement and no security forces can say they shot him down there?

Also there were several other of Makarov's terrorist confederates killed by the FSB and their bodies left behind, now how are they to claim this terrorist atrocity was America's fault when apparently they are working with their most sworn enemy; the ultra-nationalist terrorists.

So lets summarise this attack as it appears:

-Infamous terrorist Makarov is seen with two other known Russian Terrorists and a 4th person previously unknown but linked to terrorist organisations, doesn't shoot anyone.
-They us Belgian-made machine guns available on the open market
-two bodies are recovered on the runway, FSB agents record gunning them down and later forensic examinations confirms their identity as Russian Terrorists
-Final body of the 4th unknown person is found in an adjacent building, he is found shot in the head and no security personnel record shooting him, it is apparent the Terrorists shot him. Bears a striking resemblance to a file photo of a US Army Ranger infantryman, even though there is nothing else linking them together.
-CCTV analysis reveals Makarov escaped in an Ambulance.

Conclusion: obviously this was an American plot, Russia figures this out within a few days recklessly tries to invade America who is armed with thousands of nuclear weapons.

It also makes no sense how Shepard could have orchestrated this? Makarov would never have trusted him. Also Deep Cover in foreign terrorist cells is a CIA operation, completely out of the hands of a Military officer of any rank, Shepard would have to kill the entire CIA.

BTW why did Shepard even have to kill Roach? He knew NOTHING, in fact no one knew anything or had reason to suspect anything before Shepard started arbitrarily trying to kill them all. And when Shepard tried to kill Price how in the hell did Price know he was a traitor? Remember, Price is fresh out of a Russian Goulag when he busts into a Russian Sub and launches a nuke to detonate over USA. That is incredibly reckless, it also went directly against Shepard's orders, logically Price would assume Shepard had thought he was out of control and had to be reigned in.

Shepard may have admitted guilt but I don't even see how he is responsible, yes he sent Allen on deep cover operation (somehow bypassing the CIA) but how does that make him the mastermind?

Also, what orders was Allen given? Why would he actually end up IN THE LIFT loading up with guns and not try to sabotage the terrorist attack? Would he actually accept orders from Shepard to say "If Makarov starts killing civilians, just go along with it... don't worry i will eventually tell you why I sent you on this mission"

Also WHY an White American Army infantryman who clearly has no Russian background for a deep cover operation? Usually they find an American who has at least spent SOME of their life in Russia, such as a recent emigrant, or some MASTER of disguise. Either way, he has to learn to speak russian FLAWLESSLY and all the complexities of russian culture and also a background in how long? That takes YEARS and only a tiny fraction of people are even cut out for that. You can't just turn up and put on a funny accent.

 

[Geekosaurus]

It's not particularly obvious but I noticed it the other day whilst I was watching Inception.

So the van hitting the barrier of the bridge was supposed to be the kick that gets Cobb and his team out of the dream, but they miss it so in stead they use the kick of the van hitting the water. That seems fine, but one of the team members wasn't with the others in the snowy mountain place. Arthur is taking care of everybody else in the second layer of the dream in the hotel. So why didn't the kick of the van hitting the barrier take him out of the dream? He can't choose to ride the kick because it's supposed to be instinctual. It's going to annoy me whenever I watch it now.

 

[The Wykydtron]

I don't really think much about whether there is any plot holes in anything, but on Prototype the fact that Alex's sister randomly disappeared a few hours towards the end really bugged me.

 

[lordlillen]

personaly one thing im kinda annoyed by is that the general says in the beggining of the movie and i quote:
there very hard to kill.
*later in the movie*
three bullets dead
-_O what? thats hard to kill?

 

[A Pious Cultist]

Why the Hell did Link turn into a wolf in Twilight Princess? It still baffles me, to this very goddang day.

Bigger question, why does the Triforce of Courage suck monkey balls?


Courage:
Turn into a wolf
Get new clothes
Master Sword
Probable immunity to possession.

Wisdom:
Open any doors
Don't turn into anything
Summon ancient god-spirits or some crap >_>

Power:
Possess people
Shapeshifting
Telekenesis
Ball of fire stuff happened >_>
Control over magic twilight portals and twilight itself
Lend your power to others
Super Strength
Ability to ***** slap ancient god-spirits
Ability to summon ghosts 'n stuff
Teraforming
Etc.

 

[The Heik]

So I was playing Valkyria Chronicles 2 when

Spoiler

There is a part where a Valkyria destroys an army but once you get her on your team she is useless and apperently her god powers go away

So are there any plot holes that made no sense at all to you?

For me, it was the superweapon from Battlefield Bad Company 2. When it's set off in the first mission, it destroys everything. However, all vehicles during that time were driven by purely mechanical means, so that giant EMP wouldn't have done squat. When it's set off later in the game, it shouldn't have knocked down all the military vehicles because they're hardened for EM attacks. So the entire deal about it being dangerous was complete and utter crock in terms of military effectiveness.

 

[Darth Rahu]

alright I'll say it, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. The whole damn movie made no sense at all and didn't even try to.

 

[VanillaBean]

The third Matrix. How is Neo saving the Machines from Smith supposed to keep the Machines from going back and kidnapping more humans. I mean think about it, the machines can't survive without the energy they harvest from humans.

 

[Chibz]

Ha, pretty much the entire series of Dragonball, Why don't trunks and goten fuse and beat the crap out of everyone? Why don't they go along with Goku when he goes off to save the galaxy with Pan, the weakest character in the universe? Why is Pan alive? Why does Gohan, the coolest character ever fall to the wayside, while the brats fuse and save the world? etc. etc.

Excuse me, but that's DBZ. Not Dragon Ball. Don't associate traditional ol' Dragon Ball with THAT cluster fuck of stupidity.

 

[blankedboy]

In Ergo Proxy, why didn't Re-L die from being around Vincent so much?

LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.

You got my vote there.

Plothole: Frodo's arms were being held by the bird in one scene, then he had one free.