Most obvious plot hole.

ProfessorLayton

Elite Member
Nov 6, 2008
7,452
0
41
Horny Ico said:
Go read The Sacrifice; they're not actually immune at all.
I did. I guess I misspoke... they still have the disease and they're spreading it, but they're not turning into zombies. Does that make them immune, though?
 

Littlee300

New member
Oct 26, 2009
1,742
0
0
Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Avatar
1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
1. They didn't have the resources.
2. That didn't make any sense I have no idea what you just siad.
3. Again, that made no sense, bullet proof gas? What?
4. The good guys one.


Night At The Museum, the guy never ever sleeps.
1. A space station would cost way more then a bomb about size of a big tree.
2. You just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. It is just a typo
4. What is good and bad is subjective
1. They didn't have a space station, and they didn't have a bomb. If they wanted a bomb, it would have taken FOUR YEARS for it to be delivered, time which they absolutely didn't have.
2. No, it seriously made no sense. If you mean TANKS then what the fuck would two tanks on top of a base accomplish?
3. No explanation here.
4. I think it's pretty obvious who the good and the bad people are, just because you're playing Devils Advocate doesn't mean that you are any good at it.
1. O rly?

2. Yes it does you just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. Victory
4. Victory again!
 

lazermoose

New member
Jul 20, 2009
3
0
0
Shivarage said:
Why did jesus have to die? I'm not kidding you, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. He died for our sins, but couldn't God have just chosen to forgive us without, you know, having his son suffer an agonising death? I'm not even bible bashing. Please explain this because I've obviously missed something HUGE

EDIT: I probably didn't need to put the second one in spoiler tags, but whatever.
Well I can explain the bible part, You see when we lived in the old testament days, God was very strict and we all had to sacrifice an animal once a week for our sins at the alter in repentence for our sins, however this process was quite troublesome, however God brought mercy on us all with HIS OWN sacrifices. Just like how we had to bring a lamb up for slaughter that must have nothing wrong with it, God brought his own son (Jesus, aka the Lamb of God) to sacrifice as he was the perfect human who had no flaws. So in other words, God drastically reduced the requirements to get into heaven.
By doing this we would no longer have to constantly go about sacrificing animals at the alter and instead all we would have to do is follow the new Testament's teachings and repent.

I hope I explained this the best I could and if you have any other questions, feel free to message me.
"when we lived in the old testament days, God was very strict..."

How do you know?

Where did God go since then?

Why did he decide not to make any more contact with us if he is still around?

Why would God appreciate murder in his name?

Last thing I would want to do is purposely have my own son murdered for me...
It even said so that God was strict. Getting into Heaven was a hell of alot harder than it is now.
In Romans Chapter 1 it said that God took a big step back from humanity seeing as how we wanted him out of our lives and wanted to do whatever we wanted to do, seeing as how God wouldn't want to force us to love him. (Harder to explain, but let me know If I should emphasize a bit more.)

Sadly Sacrificing was the only method back then to atone for the sins of Humanity. And secondly they ate the meat I believe after out of Necessity. (Don't get all Animal Activist on me about the BC TIME DAMMIT) Had Adam and Eve listened we wouldn't be here discussing such contreversial BS.

And finally put it this way. You don't want to go thru with sacrificing your son (ALSO it is yourself in Human form due to Omnipresence), but you realize that a good 90% of humanity will fall into Hell by their own had if you don't do so.
So Instead of having us all Constantly sacrificing animals in such a fashion every week and running little to no chance of getting into Heaven, He sacrifices his son (IE himself in human form) to open the gates of Heaven to us. To forgive us of our sin, but still having to do what we can to live by him.

This all can be found in the Bible dude, whether you believe it or not is your decision, I just prefer not to have my beliefs belittled by a skeptic. So my advice is that if you want to analyze God like that, then try reading the bible and make your own Opinion from there rather than confronting someone who was trying to explain why an event happened the way it did.
Sacrifice NEVER needed to happen

Just sounds like someone justifying murdering animals to stay alive...

And religion is just someone making up stories to ease peoples fear of death

Why does hell exist?

Why does a supposed ever-loving "God" allow it to exist?
First of all, I apologize for the horribly quoted text, I tried to make it a little better, but it still sucks.

Now, onto the actual question:
1. WHY did Jesus have to die?
I sometimes struggle with this, and sometimes, it makes perfect sense. On one hand, it makes NO SENSE AT ALL! I mean, God... the maker of everything... needed to send His own Son to die so that we might live? That's a little far-fetched.

But if you look at it as I believe God looks at it, it makes perfect sense.
You see, He's perfect. (I feel many of you guys have problems with this whole situation simply because you don't believe God exists... I'm not here to tell you what to believe, but I'm telling you what I believe, and I'll try to back it up with the Bible.)

"You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil;
with you the wicked cannot dwell." -- Psalms 5:4
This pretty much sets the stage for the entire Bible. God has no fellowship with evil, or darkness as it is sometimes called (1 John 1:5.) When He created humans, He created them perfect beings because He desired to do so. He wanted to love us (because "God is love" -- 1 John 4:8)
HOWEVER He gave us silly humans free will.

(I've heard many discussions about God giving us free will and how that was a stupid idea, but the basic idea is "If we can't choose to love Him and obey Him, then we're really not having a relationship with Him." It makes sense. In a real-life example, we open ourselves up to disappointment every time we choose to love. The man chooses to love the woman, but if he has a shred of sense he knows that by opening himself up to this woman and loving her, there's a possibility that this woman might break his heart. God did the same with us.)

Anyways, He gives us free will because otherwise we'd be stupid robots, so instead we're stupid humans who, instead of chilling in the most perfect place ever created (literally!) we decide to do the only thing God tells us not to do, disobeying God and bringing sin to our world.

God, being perfect, and living in a perfect Heaven/Garden of Eden, can't have these imperfect people in there with Him! So He kicks them out, BUT gives them a way to return to His presence. Sacrifice.

The reason for sacrifice in the OT isn't salvation! It's a reminder of the consecuences of sin.

"The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming, not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins." -- Hebrews 10:1-4
There is nothing that we can do in order to EARN salvation, or a one-way ticket out of hell. In the following verse, it shows that the "wages" (what one has earned) of sin is DEATH. God knew that we had earned death, but He, because of His love for us, decided to send His Son in order to pay for our sins, to receive the wages that we had earned. The sacrifices were simply a reminder; however, Jesus' sacrifice was different.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." -- Romans 6:23
Jesus' sacrifice was not unnecessary; in order for God to be just (and He's unchanging, so if He's just some of the time, He'll be just all of the time) He couldn't give us humans a free ticket from our consequences, but He DID have compassion on us (since we were eternally screwed) and gave us a way out... His Son's sacrifice.

I don't know if I answered everything (or if any of my answer is acceptable to you) but I enjoy talking about what I believe (and not simply arguing.) Message me, or comment here, if you have any more questions (hopefully I'll be able to help at least a bit!)
 
Jan 29, 2009
3,328
0
0
voorhees123 said:
In Pirates of the Caribbean 2, why did they bother going through all the trouble to get the key from squid face, when they already had the box and could have smashed/shot it open while on land.
Also, they have a Blacksmith.
He has a diagram of what the key looks like
WHAT DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD DO?
EDIT:
Littlee300 said:
Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Avatar
1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
1. They didn't have the resources.
2. That didn't make any sense I have no idea what you just siad.
3. Again, that made no sense, bullet proof gas? What?
4. The good guys one.


Night At The Museum, the guy never ever sleeps.
1. A space station would cost way more then a bomb about size of a big tree.
2. You just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. It is just a typo
4. What is good and bad is subjective
1. They didn't have a space station, and they didn't have a bomb. If they wanted a bomb, it would have taken FOUR YEARS for it to be delivered, time which they absolutely didn't have.
2. No, it seriously made no sense. If you mean TANKS then what the fuck would two tanks on top of a base accomplish?
3. No explanation here.
4. I think it's pretty obvious who the good and the bad people are, just because you're playing Devils Advocate doesn't mean that you are any good at it.
1. O rly?

2. Yes it does you just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. Victory
4. Victory again!
That is the Venture Star, a sublight starship that takes 5.5 years each way to get to Pandora. It only has what they decided to put on it 5.5 years ago, so asking for a nuke would take 5.5 years to ask for it, and if it gets approved, it will take another 5.5 years on the way back, which by then all the humans will be dead.
They did the best they could with what they had, except they suck at diplomacy and they -had- to kill all aliens.
 

Broken Orange

God Among Men
Apr 14, 2009
2,367
0
0
Nomanslander said:
District 9

How the hell does that red stuff work as spaceship fuel and turning you into one of the prawns?
Sorry if someone already explained this.

The Prawn technology is biased on their DNA and when he got sprayed, The alien DNA began to fuse with his human DNA. Since Prawn weapons could only be fired by Prawn DNA, not human. One would assume that this also works with the space ships.

That is how I see it at least.
 

Mikeyfell

Elite Member
Aug 24, 2010
2,784
0
41
Phoenix09215 said:
Mikeyfell said:
this one made my nipples explode

At the end of Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5
Dawn is the key thing [sub]that whole sub plot was stupid but that's not what I'm on about[/sub]
and when she starts to bleed all the gates to hell or where ever open up.
In order to close the gates Buffy has to stop Dawn from bleeding.
They already decided that the fastest way to stop Dawn from bleeding would be to kill her.
Instead of killing Dawn, Buffy jumps off the crane and dies.
The gates close. Dawn, the Key is still bleeding. What The Fuck.

not to mention that they spent the first half of the season saying that the Key could be anything. An animal, a tree, a rock, a person. then at the end they say that the only way to use the Key is to make it bleed? What if it had been a rock?
I agree with the second point but don't you remember any of the bits with the first slayer speaking to buffy?

She told Buffy that death is your gift. The whole point was that once the prtal opened it would only close once dawn had died. But Buffy shares the same blood so by killing herself she closed the portal... death was her gift! Plus she did say that no matter what no one was going to kill Dawn, Buffy told everyone that if they did she would kill them...
it still didn't make sense because even if Buffy did die Dawn would still be bleeding
 

Mikeyfell

Elite Member
Aug 24, 2010
2,784
0
41
HG131 said:
Mikeyfell said:
this one made my nipples explode

At the end of Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5
Dawn is the key thing [sub]that whole sub plot was stupid but that's not what I'm on about[/sub]
and when she starts to bleed all the gates to hell or where ever open up.
In order to close the gates Buffy has to stop Dawn from bleeding.
They already decided that the fastest way to stop Dawn from bleeding would be to kill her.
Instead of killing Dawn, Buffy jumps off the crane and dies.
The gates close. Dawn, the Key is still bleeding. What The Fuck.

not to mention that they spent the first half of the season saying that the Key could be anything. An animal, a tree, a rock, a person. then at the end they say that the only way to use the Key is to make it bleed? What if it had been a rock?
Well, I'm sure there would have been another way for it to be used as a rock, but they did explain the other thing. Dawn was based on Buffy's DNA. Basically, she was a slightly altered clone. So Buffy and her were close enough DNA matches for the portal to be fooled.
even if they had close enough Dna to fool the portal Dawn would still have been bleeding after Buffy died
and as long as Dawn bleeds the portal stays open
that's the plot hole part
 

mattttherman3

New member
Dec 16, 2008
3,105
0
0
The Dark Knight: Why the hell would Batman say he killed those people? Just say that the Joker did or that his henchmen did. That would make sense but would make a third film less interesting.

Superman(the first one), stops one rocket then gets pissed and flies around the planet like 100 times in 10 seconds to turn back time, so why couldn't he stop both rockets????
 

mattttherman3

New member
Dec 16, 2008
3,105
0
0
Soviet Heavy said:
Death God said:
Why trust just ONE terminator to do the job. She barley killed one so just send in 5 or 6 to do the job better. And why not kill Sarah when she is no threat at all. A.K.A. When she's 5! There are so many point to exploit.
How about this? By stopping Judgment Day in T2, wouldn't this prevent John Connor from even existing? And if he still existed, wouldn't they realize that their effort to stop Judgment Day didn't work?
You and your endless paradoxes
 

fgdfgdgd

New member
May 9, 2009
692
0
0
DragonChi said:
LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.
LOTR nerd reporting in: They can't carry anyone with the ring, it would have corrupted them and they'd take it to Sauron, in the movie they only carry Gandalf and later on they carry Sam and Frodo but that's after the ring is destroyed. It's not explined i know, but that's what the books say.
 

mattttherman3

New member
Dec 16, 2008
3,105
0
0
manic_depressive13 said:
I don't get how in Inception...wait.
I don't get how DiCaprio's totem would help. The point of the totem is to prevent other people from fabricating a dream and screwing you over, right? The Asian guy's rug was a good example, 'cause how the hell were they meant to know what kind of texture it would have. This anomaly made him realise it's not real. However, DiCaprio's spinning top is so obvious. All anyone who is trying to trick him would have to do is make it fall over.

Furthermore, at the end they use it to imply that he might still be dreaming. However, if it's your own dream, can't you just imagine it falling over? The totems are there to stop others from tricking you, I thought. What's to stop you from tricking yourself, assuming you're so messed up you can't tell dream from reality anymore? Is there some dream-law which says your totem never lies?

And why did they never dream anything cool? If I could control my dreams I'd create some fucking dragons or something and give myself wings, not pull stupid mirrors out of nowhere. There are mirrors in real life.

Other than that,

Why did jesus have to die? I'm not kidding you, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. He died for our sins, but couldn't God have just chosen to forgive us without, you know, having his son suffer an agonising death? I'm not even bible bashing. Please explain this because I've obviously missed something HUGE.

EDIT: I probably didn't need to put the second one in spoiler tags, but whatever.
My theory is that the bible was a bunch of childrens stories to give them morals and their parents didn't bother telling them.

Also in the book of revalations theres this whole thing about a golden book and that the names of everyone that has and will be saved is on there. I thought God gave us free will, but with that book, all that goes out the damn window.
 

IBlackKiteI

New member
Mar 12, 2010
1,613
0
0
The fact there is absolutely no reason for the Flood in Halo 2.

Or maybe I was just not paying attention, I dunno.
 

Warlordnipple

New member
Sep 9, 2010
23
0
0
That is kinda all explained in context. Mostly Pure Saijins train way harder than humans will so half saijins wont trade as hard as full saijins. Halves seem to get better faster and gohan was not allowed to train from birth so it was not a part of him the way it was for goten and trunks.
 

IBlackKiteI

New member
Mar 12, 2010
1,613
0
0
Sarah Kerrigan said:
How are the survivor in Left 4 Dead Immune? :/
Does that count as a plot hole?

Like, how can a game with no plot have one.

I guess they were just lucky or something.
 

Nieroshai

New member
Aug 20, 2009
2,940
0
0
mattttherman3 said:
manic_depressive13 said:
I don't get how in Inception...wait.
I don't get how DiCaprio's totem would help. The point of the totem is to prevent other people from fabricating a dream and screwing you over, right? The Asian guy's rug was a good example, 'cause how the hell were they meant to know what kind of texture it would have. This anomaly made him realise it's not real. However, DiCaprio's spinning top is so obvious. All anyone who is trying to trick him would have to do is make it fall over.

Furthermore, at the end they use it to imply that he might still be dreaming. However, if it's your own dream, can't you just imagine it falling over? The totems are there to stop others from tricking you, I thought. What's to stop you from tricking yourself, assuming you're so messed up you can't tell dream from reality anymore? Is there some dream-law which says your totem never lies?

And why did they never dream anything cool? If I could control my dreams I'd create some fucking dragons or something and give myself wings, not pull stupid mirrors out of nowhere. There are mirrors in real life.

Other than that,

Why did jesus have to die? I'm not kidding you, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. He died for our sins, but couldn't God have just chosen to forgive us without, you know, having his son suffer an agonising death? I'm not even bible bashing. Please explain this because I've obviously missed something HUGE.

EDIT: I probably didn't need to put the second one in spoiler tags, but whatever.
My theory is that the bible was a bunch of childrens stories to give them morals and their parents didn't bother telling them.

Also in the book of revalations theres this whole thing about a golden book and that the names of everyone that has and will be saved is on there. I thought God gave us free will, but with that book, all that goes out the damn window.
Big difference between already knowing how a story will end and having written it. The book was written as prophesy not mandate.
 

Shoggoth2588

New member
Aug 31, 2009
10,250
0
0
Deguasser said:
when frank west in Dead Rising, get's infected
The fact that Frank (depending on how you played) was bitten dozens to hundreds of times over the course of the game before the plot-specific bite. Same with the survivors who dawdled and got nibbled on.
 

Mikeyfell

Elite Member
Aug 24, 2010
2,784
0
41
HG131 said:
Mikeyfell said:
HG131 said:
Mikeyfell said:
this one made my nipples explode

At the end of Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5
Dawn is the key thing [sub]that whole sub plot was stupid but that's not what I'm on about[/sub]
and when she starts to bleed all the gates to hell or where ever open up.
In order to close the gates Buffy has to stop Dawn from bleeding.
They already decided that the fastest way to stop Dawn from bleeding would be to kill her.
Instead of killing Dawn, Buffy jumps off the crane and dies.
The gates close. Dawn, the Key is still bleeding. What The Fuck.

not to mention that they spent the first half of the season saying that the Key could be anything. An animal, a tree, a rock, a person. then at the end they say that the only way to use the Key is to make it bleed? What if it had been a rock?
Well, I'm sure there would have been another way for it to be used as a rock, but they did explain the other thing. Dawn was based on Buffy's DNA. Basically, she was a slightly altered clone. So Buffy and her were close enough DNA matches for the portal to be fooled.
even if they had close enough Dna to fool the portal Dawn would still have been bleeding after Buffy died
and as long as Dawn bleeds the portal stays open
that's the plot hole part
I'm pretty sure that it could only be opened once, therefor when it closed it didn't reopen.
I guess....
but that hardly relieves my confusion or frustration
[sub]and my nipples are still exploded[/sub]
 

SuperNashwan

New member
Oct 1, 2010
213
0
0
Dont know if anyone has said this yet, and its a movie, not a game - but The Matrix. And this is a big one.

Basically, EVERYONE is plugged into the matrix, which means it cant be hard to monitor EVERYTHING they say and do. We also know that they can re-assign identities, memories etc, so if the machines really are as hard-ass as the movie makes out, and the agents are so desperate to stop people waking up, why the hell dont they just mindwipe anyone who (while still plugged in) even thinks about being a hacker? Why bother hunting Neo down at his place of work? You know he;s been naughty as you have a big thick file on him. The guy is plugged into your mainframe already. Go to his little pod and chuck in some roofies or something. Its not like agents are bound by the miranda convention. There's never really a convincing reason given as to why potential escapees have to be hunted and found 'within' the matrix when the machines essentially have the ability to read their minds already.

I love those movies, but that plot hole hit me the other day for some reason.