Most obvious plot hole.

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In the Dark Knight, after Dent is killed, Batman tells Gordon to blame the murders of the officers Dent killed on him. WHY? Couldn't they have just told everyone that the Joker did it?
 

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HG131 said:
Hydrus said:
So, I've been meaning to ask all the Escapists about this one for ages. It's Halo Reach.


Okay, so in the second last mission of the game it's revealed that that Doctor Lady has discovered something underground in an alien temple, a "latchkey discovery" she calls it. Turns out it's Cortana, the AI you spend the rest of the entire Halo series hanging out with. So the final mission is to deliver this AI to Captain Keyes, on the Pillar of Autumn. As everyone knows, this is the ship you (the Master Chief) is on at the beginning of the first Halo game. It's explained at the beginning of that game that the Pillar of Autumn did a pretty much random slip space drive jump to avoid leading the Covenant fleet to Earth. Your job is then to escort Cortana off the ship and avoid the enemy capturing her.
SO the problem is: HOW THE HELL DOES CORTANA KNOW ALL THIS STUFF? We just dug her out of the ground a few hours ago, tops! Yet she acts like she's known the Captain, the crew and the Covenant for years! She apparently even knows Master Chief, who's been in cryo genic sleep the whole time!

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the manual for Combat Evolved straight up tells you Cortana is one of the most advanced AI's ever constructed by the human race. But we just dug her up! And how on earth did she "choose" the Master Chief as the Spartan she wanted to "work with"?! And what did she mean by "work with"?! She just got dug up, she has no idea where she's going, she has no idea they'll accidently end up at the first Halo ring, she has no idea what it does!

I'm sorry, I loved Reach, but the discovery that the pay load was Cortana was totally bogus. It was a pointless "Aha!" moment directed at fan boys at the complete expense of the continuity of the storyline.

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No, that wasn't the discovery. Halsey discovered the Forerunner ruins. Cortana was spit into two halves, one on the Autumn and one with her. The Cortana half you escort has the data from the Forerunner ruins. The jump was never random, it was planned by Cortana and possibly Halsey because they knew there was something at those coordinateness. The data Cortana gained most likely explained exactly what that was (Halo), hence them going to it. Because it violated the Cole Protocol Cortana decided to just claim it was random. Also, Cortana is based off of a cloned brain of Dr. Halsey. The Cortana halves merged back together when they were reunited on the Autumn. No plot hole, you just need to know the canon.
Also, Cortana chose John because he was, in her mind, the best Spartan. Also, he was Halsey's favorite, so that probably affected her decision.
 

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One from the new startrek film. There have never been any Orions in the federation but near the beging of the film (before the time line was changed) uhura's room mate is shown to be a green Orion slave girl
 

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Koroviev said:
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I don't get how Jesus dying helped people be forgiven for their sins, I thought he died because a bunch of Romans and Jews didn't like him.
The Romans were heathens incapable of basking in the glory of Gawd, dontcha know?
But how does that mean people were forgiven for their sins?
 

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FolkLikePanda said:
Koroviev said:
FolkLikePanda said:
I don't get how Jesus dying helped people be forgiven for their sins, I thought he died because a bunch of Romans and Jews didn't like him.
The Romans were heathens incapable of basking in the glory of Gawd, dontcha know?
But how does that mean people were forgiven for their sins?
/sarcasm
 

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Koroviev said:
FolkLikePanda said:
Koroviev said:
FolkLikePanda said:
I don't get how Jesus dying helped people be forgiven for their sins, I thought he died because a bunch of Romans and Jews didn't like him.
The Romans were heathens incapable of basking in the glory of Gawd, dontcha know?
But how does that mean people were forgiven for their sins?
/sarcasm
Oooo, whats that?
 

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There's a pretty big plot hole between Bad Company's 1 and 2. If at the end of the first game, the gang makes off with a truck of gold, why are they still work in the military so soon afterward?
 

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There's a pretty big plot hole between Bad Company's 1 and 2. If at the end of the first game, the gang makes off with a truck of gold, why are they still work in the military so soon afterward?
What really got me is the whole
Aguire is Wyatt's son
thing.
Mainly because
If we assume Wyatt was around mid 30s when he died, and Aguire was born a few years before, since he was all "grr, my dad's dead" that's still an extra 70 something years minimum age. Yet he looks late mid 40s, maybe early 50s. How is that even possible? He should be nearly 80 years old! Make sense, game! MAKE. SENSE.
 

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T0RD said:
crudus said:
CplDustov said:
I think the story takes places over about a year. No? It's been a while I'll admit. So I agree with that in mind your point makes a loooooot of sense. Tolkien had an explanation of Eagles not meddling in human affairs too much but it was pretty.... lame.
Jesus dying on top of a tower? Yeah, lets meddle there. Billions of other people's suffering and lives on the line? No, lets pass. That Jesus guy can handle it.
That is actually since Gandalf is a friend of the Eagles after he healed the son of the Eagle King. And some other complicated thing about the Valar I won't go into. (But linked to not meddling with human affairs)
For the 5th time in this thread, that wasn't explained in the movie. Since it wasn't explained in the movie, it is a plot hole in the movie. I am sure it is all explained very well in the book thus not a plot hole for the book.
 

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Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Avatar
1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
1. They didn't have the resources.
2. That didn't make any sense I have no idea what you just siad.
3. Again, that made no sense, bullet proof gas? What?
4. The good guys one.


Night At The Museum, the guy never ever sleeps.
1. A space station would cost way more then a bomb about size of a big tree.
2. You just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. It is just a typo
4. What is good and bad is subjective
 

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Khaiseri said:
DragonChi said:
LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.
The Eagle creatures aren't fond of humans, so they have ignored human problems a long time ago. Didn't you read the books?
Also they nazgul guys can fly and easily intercept eagles.
Also if you paid attention in movie you would see you have to ENTER mount doom where a army could be waiting
Also the eye would totally see it
 

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Here are the worst films/games/cartoon plots ever created in my opinion:
1. Star Wars: The new trilogy marked a low point for the series which was already filled with plenty of good fantasy ideas to begin with. Then they added Jar-Jar Brinks, Anikin Skywalker, a crappy trade federation, a space princess who is not Leia,a bad prolouge that leads up to Darth Vader's existence, and a bunch of other crappy plot twist.

2. Avatar: Sure it had plenty of good fantasy ideas in the first hour and a half, until they turned Jake into a generic do it all hero. Here is my question, if Jake could go back and forth between a Human and a Navi, couldn't he just manipulate the two groups against each other for his own gain like in the Departed or something? I did not actually want either side to completely win right off the bat, but set up a senario where Jake learns how he can just be the Emperor of Pandora.

3. Star Trek (2009): I loved the space action in the new film and I've watched it plenty of times, but my father and I both cannot understand the time/space continuum switch that Spock and Kirk pull off later in the movie. Apparently Spock gave some bad stuff to some bad people, then he warps back in time to get Kirk and the new Spock to fix it. Hmmm? The jury is still out on that one.

4. Dragon Ball GT: Pretty much everything after Cell gets killed sucked...hard. Really f-ing hard! Everything from Majin Buu, to the fusions, to Goku and Vegeta going SSJ 3 and 4 for some reason. KOEI should have stopped at super saijan 2 with Gohan, but they kept going for no other reason than to make more money off of their loyal fans. Shame on them.

5. Halo: I stopped playing this series after the third game. I couldn't do anymore, I just could not keep defending this game after finishing the trilogy. I did not have the spirit or the encouragement to go on, especially since games like Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Gears of War, and Bioshock had much better stories and multiplayer alike. Even when the series moved to ODST and Reach, they still had a hard time with the story. It wasn't only the fact the spartans wore helmets and hulky body armor, it is the whole damn fiction that needs work. Microsoft is going to make another sequel though, and it will probably suck hard I can guarantee it. It is a good idea that Bungie left the series when they did.
 

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Littlee300 said:
Old Trailmix said:
Littlee300 said:
Avatar
1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
1. They didn't have the resources.
2. That didn't make any sense I have no idea what you just siad.
3. Again, that made no sense, bullet proof gas? What?
4. The good guys one.


Night At The Museum, the guy never ever sleeps.
1. A space station would cost way more then a bomb about size of a big tree.
2. You just can't figure out how it makes sense :)
3. It is just a typo
4. What is good and bad is subjective
1. They didn't have a space station, and they didn't have a bomb. If they wanted a bomb, it would have taken FOUR YEARS for it to be delivered, time which they absolutely didn't have.
2. No, it seriously made no sense. If you mean TANKS then what the fuck would two tanks on top of a base accomplish?
3. No explanation here.
4. I think it's pretty obvious who the good and the bad people are, just because you're playing Devils Advocate doesn't mean that you are any good at it.
 

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DragonChi said:
LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.
Would have worked if the eagles would consent to fly over Mordor. Not to mention the Nazgul having their own flying beasties.
 

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The Journey said:
theSovietConnection said:
Littlee300 said:
2. How can those tree huggers kill a tank unless with those animals, not even bullets can take out a tank, easy... next!
He was refering to the transports I assume, which, if/when they fell, may just fuck up the tank and it's crew.

I still think the most glaring plothole in the movie was the way everything just united against the humans, though.
You did get that the entire point of the movie was that all life on that planet was interconnected didn't you? The reason they all 'rallied' was because the Navi could use that link and... oh nevermind. If you didn't get it after the ham-fisted approach they took in the movie I guess you never will. Try to suspend your disbelief a little bit to believe that they weren't simply 'dumb animals'.

That said, I agree that the humans should have easily won that, rather than the 'heroic ending' trad stuff that we get in every movie. Happy ending my arse.
Oh, I did get that, it just seemed it was only interconnected when it was convenient for the plot. I unno, I got it, I understood that the life was supposed to be interconnected, it just wasn't pulled off very well.

On a random note regarding Avatar and Reach, anyone else notice the similarities between the attack copters in each?