Most Racist Thing You've Seen?

[Leonardo Huizar]

I once said something on a deviantArt page and openly mentioned "Im not into trans, thanks." Then some SJW [at the time didnt know who or what they/xhe were] flipped their shet at me. I took it all in stride, didnt say anything anti-LGBTQ just to spite them, and it ultimately ended the one who got pissy about it calling me a "Fat Ethnic Bigot" to a personal photo Ive posted. Which I find hilarious because prior i have been making a parody comic series with one of the characters being an openly gay/crossdressing teenager and a few trans & bi friends of mine gave me their blessing to make all the "dick jokes" i wanted to make with the character.

Even though I am still a "Fat Ethnic" I am also one of these supporters of drug testing for welfare & unemployment. I am absolutely pro-medicinal marijuana, but unless you got that doctor's note, my taxes shouldnt go to someone who doesnt need it even if it is predominately some groups of people over the other.

Working in retail for a long time, having to deal with so many effing new guys who clearly went lazy through most of their lives, and living in a diverse community, I find myself openly having to admit I dont agree with a lot of Affirmative Action hiring. Mostly because as my employers have pointed out to me its basically making Racial Quotas. Im not one BTW. Ive demonstrated my ability, but if someone whose grown up and given the same opportunity but acts like their ethnicity is a crutch for their incompetence... theyre welcome to go FLICK themselves

 

[Ten Foot Bunny]

Outside of videos I've seen of the KKK, the most racist things I've ever seen are my dad and stepmom. It's one of the many reasons that I haven't had any contact with that side of my family for four years.

 

[jamail77]

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I'm really confused how this is overtly racist. Is it the ethnic part? Could the person in question even tell what ethnicity you fall under from this photo? Did they single something out about your ethnicity? Including ethnicity along fat and bigot might have been meant as part of the insult, but it's not really all that specific in its racism. Did this person hate all ethnicity that weren't theirs or all minorities or what? Not trying to hurt your point, I'm just seriously not seeing it and need some clarification.

Also, I don't see how your 2nd and 3rd paragraph have anything to do with the topic at hand. I guess you're trying to justify that your political opinions aren't a sign of racism or self-hate/self-racism on your part? And, that's nice I suppose, but it seems largely irrelevant to this thread. Or, maybe you were trying to show you go against opinions popular with a majority of certain ethnic minorities? I'm just not sure. Whatever your intention, if you wanted to make a point regarding that I feel like you could have just started your own thread and just left only the 1st paragraph for this thread. It feels like you know your opinion is hotly contested and some of that frustration bled here and, at least to me, it just comes as unnecessarily preemptive and over-defensive for something nobody has brought up in this thread and nobody has attacked you for yet.

Again, I don't mean any of this to come off as offensively or cynically critical. I'm just lost on your point and why you bothered with the 2 follow up paragraphs.

 

[The Egalitarian]

Recently? The most racist thing I've seen refers to an advert (a 19th century Imperial British one at that) which involved soap. I'll leave it for you guys to find it out; It's pretty darn easy to find out the suspect if you type a basic google search about it.

Needless to say, this was for my academia as I am a history student studying the Empire as my specialist module in my third year. I hold no relation to the advert, although it did cause a wave of uneasy laughing and awkward silence when they were given out as source analyses.

 

[Cowabungaa]

In daily life, not a lot actually. Mostly friends who is convinced he can keep shouting "******" because, as one of them says, it not being okay to say it would be 'reverse discrimination' which is the biggest load of bullcrap ever. But I've given up saying it's not cool, it didn't help anything.

That's probably the best way around this. Though it feels to me that the Sinterklaas holiday is getting more insignificant as time goes on. It's like all the stores can't wait for it to finally be over for that year, so they can kick him out and get to Christmas. I feel like the holiday itself might slowly get snuffed out within 30 years, and everyone will just latch on to Christmas.

And a sad day it'll be when we'll see the last 'Sinterklaas intocht' for the sake of that Americanized Santa Claus bullshit.

But yeah, the whole riot about Black Pete. Good god people just make him look like a proper chimney sweep with some colourful outfits instead of a Moorish stereotype and you're fine. Buuuut noooo... They have to make a hassle out of it. They had an attempt a few years back though which was just ridiculous; have the steamboat travel through a rainbow so all the Pete's were all kinds of different colours. It looked so so stupid.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Probably the most racist thing I've ever seen has been those old Loony Toons shorts from World War II era. I know why they're like that, but damn if some of them still aren't funny.

 

[Adam Lester]

When I was living in Japan, I saw an isolationist rally going in Shibuya. My Japanese was a bit better at the time and my girlfirend at the time translated bits of it but what the basic message was "Gaijin spread their culture throughout Japan like a disease to intentionally destroy the Japanese way of life", we were filth that needed to be run out of the country or eliminated. One guy called my girlfriend a traitor for holding my hand. So yep, probably most racist thing I've seen up close.

 

[gigastar]

My dad has come fairly extreme views on immigration.

But then he works in the construction industry, so i dont imagine the periodical influx of cheap labor from the EU is helping to change his opinion.

 

[Saltyk]

I live in Texas, and contrary to popular belief, it is not the seething cauldron of racism everyone seems to believe it is. Mostly because Latinos and whites have intermarried so often over the last few decades that no one can really afford to be racist. You might be offending your own cousin.

Pretty much this. I live in the South. And frankly, racism is not nearly as bad as people seem to think here. You see it on occasion, but that's usually limited to the occasional comment from some idiot (of damn near any race). Generally speaking, I know several black people and get along with them famously.

I'm pretty convinced that the worst of racism is actually in the more Northern states.

 

[Furbyz]

I live in Texas, and contrary to popular belief, it is not the seething cauldron of racism everyone seems to believe it is. Mostly because Latinos and whites have intermarried so often over the last few decades that no one can really afford to be racist. You might be offending your own cousin.

I can believe that. I never fully bought the stereotype about Texas being like that anyway. However, are you so sure there aren't concentrations of racism unique to Texas, a city here or there? There aren't certain places that attract racism? You might say all states have a place like that, but you don't think there is anything unique about Texas in attracting it when it comes to certain areas?

I'm not doubting you; as I said, I don't really believe the stereotype anyway. Plus, it's not like I live there. Although, my Dad did move there for a bit and I would visit him, my step mom, and my half sister until they moved to West Virginia...then Kentucky...and now Colorado...that's a story for another thread, another time. Obviously, it's not the same as living there of course. Either way, I'm just asking because I'm genuinely curious to hear from a Texan's perspective. While I'm at it how much of Texas have you seen? What are the two most contrasting places of Texas that just so happen to be within the borders? I find those comparisons in the same state kind of funny. That's not to say I want to detract from the thread, but I'm just really curious.

You're absolutely right, there are pocket areas of racism in Texas. Mostly small towns, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's much the same in certain areas of the bigger cities. Probably the worst offender I know of locally is Vidor. A former Sundown Town in the 60's, Vidor is just not a great place to be. A cop friend of mine had to investigate a murder there (not a racial murder, just a good old fashioned burning someone alive in the trunk of a car) and while questioning the community he learned a few things like boys under 14 do not wear shirt or shoes at any time, Klan members can be very open about their affiliation and surprisingly helpful, and any conversation can be turned into a racist tangent with enough effort.

In contrast there is Austin, which is basically the Blue Capitol of an otherwise staunchly Red State. The Daily Show has been doing episodes from there and talks about the city, and I think they get the place across pretty well. Austin is weird, it's where nearly every outcast and black sheep from around Texas goes, and they love it.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/kwgaxa/democalypse-2014---south-by-south-mess--austin-s-real-weirdness

For the record, I'm from South East Texas, the big refinery and petrochemical area. We were recently deemed the least educated metropolitan area in the U.S, though considering they included three vastly different counties in that metric I take it with some salt. Rural farming communities, Vidor, not to mention that almost everyone raised here leaves, and company towns all around in this area. I also graduated at the top of my class when I got my associates degree. Does that make me king of the idiots? Am I Not Sure in Idiocracy?

I've been mostly around the East and North of Texas. Farthest West I've been is San Antonio, which is a beautiful city. People always think of the Alamo when they think of San Antonio, but they never realize that it's jam packed right in the middle of the city with commercial stuff all around it. There's literally a Ripley's Believe it or Not haunted house across the street.

 

[Gorrath]

I guess it depends on what you define racism as. According to some, me getting my ass beat by a gang on a near daily basis for being white isn't racist. Subsequently being unable to get any help with the problem due to the people who ran the school being bigots isn't racist either. I'm honestly not sure what to make of racism these days. There was a time that racism was discrimination based on race. Now it is often defined in such a way that it becomes goal-post moving at its finest.

Still, even if my own experiences don't count for whatever reason people chose to conjure, the most racist thing I've ever seen was me and a few black friends of mine getting pulled over and beaten up by the cops. They were equal opportunity ass whoopings, no doubt, but the reason we got pulled over is because the driver was black. I'm under no delusion that anything like that would have happened if my friends had been white. Still, once they bothered to find out who we were, and discovered the whole group of us were Army, they got real pleasant and real apologetic real quick. The Army does not take kindly to local cops kicking the shit out of its troops.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Title explains it all

For me, it's all that Ray Rice costume bullshit... Who thought THAT would be a good idea??

Spoiler: If ya don't know

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Forgive me: As a non-American, what was supposed to be racist about this?

The kid is in black face pretending to be a black wife beater guy dragging his black unconscious fiance around.

http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_c5nk3w3n/

OK. thanks for clarification. I'm gonna be honest, though, i don't really find that racist - poor taste? oh yeah, like dressing up as Hitler. But not really racist. It seems more like making fun of an individual rather than of a race.

I see it as being in poor taste AND racist, as well as a Hitler costume. I mean you knock on a an elderly Jewish woman's door on Halloween dressed as Hitler, can you imagine how upsetting that would be?

The reason the costume is not only in poor taste is that it also mocks and perpetuates the racist stereotypes of blacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans

Hmm.. not really sure making an elderly Jewish woman upset is "racist" per se, it's just very unpleasant. Seems to be an urge to lump all "offense" as an "-ism" these days. I also don't see how making a costume of a person known to have committed an offence, which specifically refers to that individual's offence, can be racism, if that person has committed the offence. Logically, you'd end up with a situation where people are protected from satire or criticism solely due to their race, which is wrong.

OT - I didn't see it first hand but in the 70s my Dad was stationed in Singapore and he claims Singapore customs had a colour chart which they matched against people's skin and they simply refused entry if you were the "wrong" colour. Now that is genuine racism.

It is racist because Hitler tried to exterminate her due to her race. Someone trying to exterminate you due to your race would definitely be classified as racism, and to pretend to be that person is extremely racially offensive. No, it isn't a matter of trying to lump everything into an " ism" category, but when it is hate related due to race, racism is a sub category specifying that is what it is, but not the only category it falls under, just one of them.

I would say that for it to be considered racist there would have to be some intent behind it. For example, blacking your face and dressing up as a stereotypical black person from the ghetto and carrying around fried chicken and a bottle of cool aid or a watermelon would be racist because you are specifically picking out all of the negative or generic stereotypes of that race. Dressing up as a Hitler isn't saying that being Jewish is a bad thing, it's just being dressed as a recognisable historical figure.

Dressing up as Ray Rice isn't saying that all black men are wife beaters, just that Ray Rice is. So while it is indeed bad taste, it isn't racist.

Remember that racist is against a whole race of people, not a specific member of that race.

Yep, I think intent is key, trying to exterminate a race is racist. Dressing up as someone who was racist, isn't racist, it's just poor taste. Very well put, to my mind.

I think you may misunderstand racism, intent is pretty irrelevant to whether or not something is racist. Most of the history of racism has nothing to do with intent, it is more of ignorance of other races and ignorance is not harmful intent, it is lacking education and understanding of other races. It can be hatred, but it can also be ignorance of how those actions affect other races.

Actually, missed this bit, I think you might misunderstand racism, or more accurately, have developed your own definition of it - real racism is about denying someone something, treating them differently or assuming they a certain characteristic due to their race. It's a hate crime, not a "taste" crime or an "ignorance" crime.

There is nothing more corrosive in society at present that the "intent free", "victim" defined crime, allowing people to claim "offence" at the most minor slight, which inevitably leads to the overbearing, hysterical and ultimately censorious claims of "ignorance" (now the standard label for someone with different views), demands for unfair perks, Orwellian-style "right think education" and general anger all around. As a rule, the very idea of an intent free crime is an affront to the rule of law (it does occur in certain situations, in the UK and Europe mostly motoring situations, such as cyclists being always "in the right" and it often brings about wild injustice even there, where a clear policy decision should mitigate the result).

As an aside - I find very interesting that in my experience it's pretty much always self-flagellating white people who try to stretch the envelop of racism into areas where it has no application and starts to impinge on other people's civil rights. Seems to be an attempt to assuage manufactured feelings of guilt for events over which they had no control or input, often they can bolster their own feelings of self righteousness and morality.

Let's start with the definition of racism.

Racism:
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

Racism is not limited only to definition 3.

Intent is not required to be ignorant of other races. If one believes that other races share an inferior characteristic due to their own ignorance, they are not intending harm, they are simply ignorant, but their ignorance does not mean that their belief is not racist.

I think you misunderstand that the person who is actually being racist does not have to be aware that what they are doing is harmful, thus they are racist due to ignorance rather than having intent to be harmful to others. They do not have to have actual intent. For example, simply because one assumes that blacks are more aggressive because they saw two black people fighting does not mean that belief is not racist, they are not intending to be racist, instead they are racist due to ignorance.

The vast majority of racism in past and present is due to ignorance of other races than actual intent. People actually believe many horrible things about other races simply because they are ignorant of other races, not because they actually hate them. One believing any of these racial stereotypes due to ignorance does not mean they intended to be racist, but that does not make the belief any less racist.

You do not even have to be aware of your actions, such as the experiments on empathy and pain. Some actually do not have the same reaction to a person of another race being harmed the same way they do to their own race being harmed. They were not even aware of this, but it does not make it any less racist.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/racial_empathy_gap_people_don_t_perceive_pain_in_other_races.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_about_indigenous_peoples_of_North_America

This is not my understanding of racism, this is what racism IS. I am not sure what you are going on about white people.

 

[V4Viewtiful]

Anyone go to world star Hiphop? The most racist site i've ever seen, by black people, for black people, by black people.

If you don't understand why? Good, ignorance is bliss.

 

[Solsbury_Grille]

My son-in-law is Hispanic, all my grandkids are half-Anglo/half-Hispanic. I don't get to be racist, not that I'd want to be that miserable.

I really don't get it, but hey. As long as you keep a job and clean up your yard, I could care less. Texas has plenty of miserable white trash who can't even manage that. So you could say I'm biased against them.

 

[Ryan Hughes]

Personally?

Well a number of years back, I was leaving this punk rock show here in Portland with some friends, one of whom happened to be black. For the sake of our story, we will call him "Davey." Davey and his girlfriend at the time went up ahead to make out in some dark corner, and were set upon by some of the local fourth-reichers.

Now, you see, being a racist in Portland is not just wrong, it is also a tremendous waste of time, because there are very few people to be racist at. They often just hang around trying to build up tension, but failing. So, when they do get around to even seeing a black guy, the fascists will pretty much jump at the chance to attack him. There were three of them, the leader with a swastika-themed neck tattoo. Because of course he did. And they set upon Davey for having the audacity to date a white woman, or something.

But, as soon as the leader moved, Davey's girlfriend just jumped forward and punched him right in the neck tattoo. . . and he went down like a sack of potatoes to the concrete, where he started crying. I was a few yards back, and I started laughing so hard, I almost cried myself. So, between Davey, his ocelot-girlfriend unafraid of exploiting weaknesses, and me and my other friends now gasping for air between hysterical fits of laughter, the other nazis grabbed their friend and went home. Presumably to lie about their adventure and drink themselves even stupider.

And that's pretty much the most racist thing that has ever happened to me.

 

[DirgeNovak]

I understand the Republicans can be utter lunatics but showing ID to prove you are a legitimate voter is an entirely acceptable, a basic part of most enfranchised societies and is really not "racist" in any way.

I mean, the elections are for the american people and there should be no reason why an American citizen wouldn't have at the very least a valid drivers license or state ID card.

Having to show some ID? Sure thing. It's natural. Having to show one of the aggressively short, conservative-oriented list of accepted IDs, that somehow accepts fucking gun registrations but not college ID, however, can fuck right off. Not everyone has a driver's license. I don't, because I don't need one. There are lots of very poor people living on tight budgets who literally cannot afford to pay the fees required to get a valid ID card and/or the cost of transportation to where they need to go to get one. These people, citizens who have voted in every past election sometimes for decades, won't be able to vote this month because of these laws.

 

[DibsOnPyro]

I live in Texas, and contrary to popular belief, it is not the seething cauldron of racism everyone seems to believe it is. Mostly because Latinos and whites have intermarried so often over the last few decades that no one can really afford to be racist. You might be offending your own cousin.

I can believe that. I never fully bought the stereotype about Texas being like that anyway. However, are you so sure there aren't concentrations of racism unique to Texas, a city here or there? There aren't certain places that attract racism? You might say all states have a place like that, but you don't think there is anything unique about Texas in attracting it when it comes to certain areas?

I'm not doubting you; as I said, I don't really believe the stereotype anyway. Plus, it's not like I live there. Although, my Dad did move there for a bit and I would visit him, my step mom, and my half sister until they moved to West Virginia...then Kentucky...and now Colorado...that's a story for another thread, another time. Obviously, it's not the same as living there of course. Either way, I'm just asking because I'm genuinely curious to hear from a Texan's perspective. While I'm at it how much of Texas have you seen? What are the two most contrasting places of Texas that just so happen to be within the borders? I find those comparisons in the same state kind of funny. That's not to say I want to detract from the thread, but I'm just really curious.

You're absolutely right, there are pocket areas of racism in Texas. Mostly small towns, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's much the same in certain areas of the bigger cities. Probably the worst offender I know of locally is Vidor. A former Sundown Town in the 60's, Vidor is just not a great place to be. A cop friend of mine had to investigate a murder there (not a racial murder, just a good old fashioned burning someone alive in the trunk of a car) and while questioning the community he learned a few things like boys under 14 do not wear shirt or shoes at any time, Klan members can be very open about their affiliation and surprisingly helpful, and any conversation can be turned into a racist tangent with enough effort.

In contrast there is Austin, which is basically the Blue Capitol of an otherwise staunchly Red State. The Daily Show has been doing episodes from there and talks about the city, and I think they get the place across pretty well. Austin is weird, it's where nearly every outcast and black sheep from around Texas goes, and they love it.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/kwgaxa/democalypse-2014---south-by-south-mess--austin-s-real-weirdness

For the record, I'm from South East Texas, the big refinery and petrochemical area. We were recently deemed the least educated metropolitan area in the U.S, though considering they included three vastly different counties in that metric I take it with some salt. Rural farming communities, Vidor, not to mention that almost everyone raised here leaves, and company towns all around in this area. I also graduated at the top of my class when I got my associates degree. Does that make me king of the idiots? Am I Not Sure in Idiocracy?

I've been mostly around the East and North of Texas. Farthest West I've been is San Antonio, which is a beautiful city. People always think of the Alamo when they think of San Antonio, but they never realize that it's jam packed right in the middle of the city with commercial stuff all around it. There's literally a Ripley's Believe it or Not haunted house across the street.

Yeah, another Texan here to support the pocket racism theory. I live, literally, in the middle of Texas and one of the KKK headquarters is in a town bout' 1-1(1/2) hours away. Most people, white and nonwhite, know not to drive through there, or at least not try and stay for dinner at the restaurant the KKK own. I can't remember the towns name but I think the branch name is Bayou Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

 

[Scars Unseen]

Hmm... The most racist thing I've seen personally? Well I live in Japan, and there are businesses here that don't allow non-Japanese in, so I guess there's that. Granted, it's not quite the same as if it were happening in a more multicultural society, but still, that's pretty much all I've got.

 

[Amaror]

Personally?
When i went to the beach with my father. It was about 14:00 and a group of 60-somethings was talking and drinking beer. One of them complained how a "Turk" took his parking spot the other day and wondered since when they were even allowed to drive.
Yeah...

 

[Signa]

Well, I saw this the other day:


Clearly, the guy isn't American, so he can make videos like this without someone screaming at him. It was refreshing, and hilarious as an American viewer.