Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[DTWolfwood]

a fault that should have been rectified in this reiteration of the original. terrible foresight on MS end. Then again changing the angular momentum of a rapidly spinning disc that isn't securely fastened isn't a good idea either. Touche MS for using physics as an excuse! XD

 

[Rayansaki]

Why would you even remotely think this is a good idea anyway? I don't think it's a flaw, it's common sense that you shouldn't move a console while the disk is reading, regardless if it is a xbox or a ps3 or a wii. I wouldn't even move it turned on.

 

[Soxafloppin]

You think they would do something about that wouldnt you.

 

[Ren3004]

What about a console getting moved unintentionally while playing a game with, say Kinect?

There was an episode of Watchdog (BBC UK) mentioning that quite a lot of people had ringed discs while playing Rockband: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/03/xbox_360.html

Once you start having people jumping up and down playing Kinect games this could become a big problem.

Also, MS won't replace ringed discs you either have to get them skimmed at somewhere like Game or Gamestation and if that does not work buy a new disc.

I could swear they had a program to replace scratched disks. Even if only for certain games.
EDIT: They do.

 

[laggyteabag]

But who would think that is a good idea to move their 360 while your playing a game anyway???

 

[cainstwin]

This is the only console i know of to do this. Alot of people saying how dumb it is to move something with a disk in it, but iv had several instances where moving something with a disc in it while on has been the best thing to do, and iv never ever had anything break
PS1/2/3 PC Laptop DVD players CD playersyou get the idea
none of these have broken so it cant be difficult can it?

 

[Liberaliter]

That guy is an idiot, if you move your xbox from horizontal to vertical or vice versa, then yes it will scratch and break the disc. Same with the old xbox. It's not hard to avoid. Jesus... You wouldn't do the same with a hi fi would you? I wouldn't do that with my computer either.

 

[USSR]

Um..
It did that before.

And haven't they "fixed" RROD almost three times already?

 

[Sub_par]

moving the system destroyed the disc from the very first 360 to launch, this isn't new. I cant count the number of people who try to return a new game as defective because this happens. i have to explain why the perfectly circular gouge is there now, but wasn't there when they bought it

 

[Alone Disciple]

I think it's pretty much understood not to move something that size when something inside is spinning at such high RPM's, especially if there is both a sticker on the front of the device and a warning in the manual.

You may call it a design flaw, but really? Do people with DVD players mid movie get up and decide to re-orientate their player from a horizontal to verical position? Do people move their casousel CD players mid song? This isn't an old portable cd-walkman.

Sometime, common sense is key.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

This is the same with the old 360. It happened to my friend twice.

 

[dekkarax]

Isn't this a rule for erm... all consoles? I mean I've never moved my Wii, 360 or PS3 because it just seemed like a bad idea to move it with a disk in it.

Nope, I've had my old PS1 fall a couple of feet, and the disk was fine.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

The problem is prevalent in all disc drives with a tray mount (a tray comes out of the drive, and you put the disc in). PS3 doesn't have this problem, because they opted for the more expensive slot mounting drive (you put the disc into a slot, and it pulls the disc into the drive.) Tray mounting drives don't really "squeeze" the disc very hard at all - instead, they rely on a retainer to keep the disc from flying off the spindle (the part that connects the motor to the disc). Slot mounting drives have to grip the disc tightly just to get it to the spindle in the first place, and are thus less susceptible to problems if you move them.

Slot mounting is not without its own set of problems. If there is a disk already in the drive, you can jam a second disk into the slot (if you are properly motivated or stupid), rendering the entire drive useless and potentially requiring replacement.

The only really fool-proof disc mounting option is the old-school caddy system. I kind of miss them, despite the impracticality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddy_%28hardware%29

So yeah, everyone that believes this is some kind of design flaw has a couple decades of disc drive technology to catch up on.

 

[Rect Pola]

[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.

What..? It has always been like this. If you move your PS3 and Wii, the same shit will happen.


How is this even remotely news?

It's also the case for small computers. Laptops are designed to be moved but consoles and desktops aren't. Why would any of these things need to be moved while you're using them anyway?

 

[Phatnpround]

It annoys me when people say the new consoles are much less sturdy than the older generations. They are FAR more complicated so of course there are going to be more problems with them. My advice would be don't stand any consoles up on their sides if you can avoid it, that way it wont fall over and certainly don't move it when the disc is spinning. This seems like common sense to me.

 

[Frenger]

Moving the console during use is retarded, do you move your computer aswell? Hell, you can damage your harddrive if you tip the tower over when it loads(or even move it, slightly). And who have it standing upright anyway(the 360, that is)? Just because it's often is pictured in that state doesn't mean it's a good idea (infact, it's a stupid idea). And WHY would you move it anyway?! People are think in the head, for sure, I'm beyond words...

And last but not least, who the FUCK place it where you can accidently tip it over? Really? I have friends with pets/childern(and who play Rockband /w drums & guitar) who run around and they never had a problem with this... why? Because they didn't place the 300$ hardware on the middle of the floor! Hell, I keep almost all of my electronics out hands reach(or feet) except the PC monitor and the TV. I have to leave my seat to change discs anyway, so I don't really see this as a problem.

People who sees this as a problem are stupid or at best, clumsy... no, sorry, just thick in the head.

Also. Game installs.

 

[Buizel91]

The orignal 360 did this too.... And its more of a design flaw than anything. When you move the 360 the laser burns itself into the disc, making it unusable, but this it just because Microsoft were stingy in the design of their disc drive in order to cut costs. The PS3, Wii, and pretty much most other disk drives wont have this problem because the drives used have features implemented to prevent this happening. Im sure that Microsoft were being sued for this a while back, but I dont know what happened with the case...

I've moved my Xbox loads of times (just sliding it to the left or right because something was their) and my disks are fine. many consoles, DVD players and other things do this, don't blame Microsoft because people are dumb enough to move this thing while running, which you shouldn't anyway.