Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[Sporky111]

OK tell me one good reason you'd have to move your console while it's on, just one solitary rational reason.

Plenty of reasons: you're in the middle of something where you can't save and turn it off, you don't know that it can damage disks that way. Mainly it would be unexpected situations, like it getting bumped and tipped over or needing to be moved to escape damage or destruction from some other means. Point being: you shouldn't have to worry about your disks getting destroyed when the main purpose of the device is to read disks.

But the thing is you do know, they're letting you know right now, and tell me how they can fix a problem like a disc scratching, when the disc is spinning at a couple hundred RPM and the box tips over?

They could secure the disk better so it doesn't swing so much while spinning. The could adjust the hardware inside so there's less chance of the disk hitting something.

Alright, you get a new XBOX and make it more secure like your saying and then come back and complain.

I'm not the company claiming to be releasing quality hardware, am I? If we don't complain about problems, they never get fixed. Microsoft in particular likes to take it's time fixing their stuff.

 

[Tharwen]

That's not really news...

Anything with a disk drive tends to damage the disk if you move it while the disk is spinning.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

So you mean, EXACTLY LIKE THE ORIGINAL?

I mean, seriously, am I the only one whose careful with their electronics anymore?

I rarely do it, but... this.

Seriously, I fail to see how Microsoft can be considered terrible for making a machine that damages disks when completely shifting the system. Remember, it's not like he bumped it, this journo lifted the system and effectively turned it on his head while the disk was spinning. Not really his fault, but considering the volatile nature of disk based (read: all three) consoles it can't solely be blamed on Microsoft either.

 

[RMcD94]

Moving it? Shaking it even slightly (ie, moving at all) broke Forza 2 twice for me (I bought a replacement which broke straight away).

 

[era81]

Another problem I have noticed that could have been mentioned in this article is if you throw any paddle against the wall as hard as you can it breaks also the last Xbox I had got the 3rrod so I put 30 rounds of 5.56 through it and then it wouldn't even turn on what a piece of shit.As much as I dislike Microsoft and how shitty the 360 was built this is not a hardware flaw it is a user error.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

I can understand this, but if its anything like the xbox 360 where slightly nudging it destroys the disk, then microsoft need to get thier shit together.

 

[Mercurio128]

I fail to see how this is a problem for anyone who isn't an idiot.

 

[addeB]

Wow, they didn't get rid of the xbox scratch!

 

[Sporky111]

They "fixed" the RRoD (I put that in quotations cause I'm not 100% sure of it), and no your not the company but when your complaining about some minor design flaw that shouldn't matter unless you want to play rugby with your 360, you should at least come with a solution instead of "whaaa it doesn't do everything I want it to do, whaaa I can't take my 360 for a walk and still play games".

They did fix the RRoD (after several years, I might add). And I'm not wanting to take my 360 for a walk, I just don't think I should have to worry about losing my money I spent on their games should something happen to the system so that it tips over. Accidents happen, and this isn't a space shuttle part, it's a gaming console. It doesn't have to be that delicate, and it shouldn't be. It's a design flaw, and as such can be addressed. I won't open it up myself, as you suggest, because it would void warranty.

 

[Piflik]

The Wii, PS3, and some older laptops have exactly the same problem. How is this news or a bug? A PC tower would probably do the same thing. I've been rough on my 360 and bumped it while it was reading, that was fine. But to tip something 90 degrees as it's spinning? You realize that turns the disk into a gyroscope, forcing the sides to level out against the tipping force and jamming them into tray. It's physics people. It's not a design flaw at all, it's science!

I can confirm...the PS3 doesn't do it...and way should it? (Disclaimer: ...at least mine...I'll take no responsibilities for failed experiments)

Discmen could spin while you were running and jumping around and the ones with ESP didn't even skip a beat...car HIFIs, whose CD/DVD Players work exactly like the one of current consoles (slot loading) also don't kill your Discs...not even when you hit a pothole.

PC Disc Trays are a different matter...the Disc only lies on the rotor and can easily slip off it when the Drive is not properly aligned...but have you ever tried to load a tray loading DVD Drive while your PC is lying on its side?

Micro is simply selling inferior hardware to stay competitive

True...there is no real reason for moving your Console during playing, but accidents do happen and not having rings on your discs afterwards would be nice...and considering that XBox users complained about the issue from day one I would imagine that Micro should have made sure that that would not happen again...

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

Well, it appears that I won't buy a 360 after all.

 

[HitsWithStyxx]

I thought moving any piece of hardware with a disc tray while the disk was spinning (stuff with the snap-on and slide-in function seem to be fine i.e. Nintendo Wii, CD Walkman) was pretty much a "no, don't do it" situation. Let alone a 90 degree rotation.

 

[Baradiel]

For gods sake, reading some of these comments makes me angry! I'm not usually one to stand up for Micro$oft, but most consoles do the same thing! Hell, when my PC tower fell over with a game in (I think it was Diablo 2) the disc was scratched beyond repair. Same happened with my PS2. The only device that hasnt damaged the disc is my Wii, and thats because I never use it.

Be thankful there IS a warning on the front. Despite the fact that the guy was too dense to notice it, it at least gives those who DO read it a chance to learn about the problem BEFORE experiencing it.

Surely its common sense that a ultra-light plastic ring spinning loosely inside a complicated box of electronics at however many miles an hour is best left alone?

That, or use the MASSIVE HARDDRIVE (for a console, mind) to save every game you care about, so the disc doesnt NEED to spin.

 

[REPLAY13]

as a rule I refrain from moving any machine with a disc playing inside it (why the hell would you want to anyway?)

 

[Piflik]

And before someone comes with Angular Momentum, as in Conservation of it, although the Disc's rotational speed is quite high, its mass and diameter is low enough that it shouldn't really matter...