MTV Executives Worried Skins May Violate Child Pornography Laws

lee1287

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WHY?! The first series was good of Skins, now it's just stupid. Why do you do this America?

You take Skins, shit.

AND, you take and like Peris morgan. What's wrong with you?!
 

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Tipsy Giant said:
the british version was shit but 16 is legal here so no outcry of pedophilia, plus we aren't as reactionary as america
That was also because all of the actors were over 18, which is the age you have to be at (in the UK at least) to participate in simulated or real sex on screen.

I disagree with the idea about it being realistic...I mean, the first series was reasonable in general quality and "realism" but it's all gone downhill from there.
 

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Considering the fact that a great number of grown-ups these days, including many 'concerned mothers', has likely seen the movie "Kids" like...15 years ago when they themselves were teenagers and probably applauding it with great gusto back then...my heart pumps purple piss for the hypocritical Parent's Television Council.
 

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Wrists said:
Tipsy Giant said:
the british version was shit but 16 is legal here so no outcry of pedophilia, plus we aren't as reactionary as america
That was also because all of the actors were over 18, which is the age you have to be at (in the UK at least) to participate in simulated or real sex on screen.

I disagree with the idea about it being realistic...I mean, the first series was reasonable in general quality and "realism" but it's all gone downhill from there.
The issue is also with "appearing to be under the age limit" if you are portraying a person under the limit this is also against the law in america (please correct me if i'm wrong, this was my understanding of US law)
 

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So?

All of that stuff's in the original Skins.

I didn't realise they were making an exact remake - the trailer shows them saying all of the lines from the original script, yet it's British humour and writing strapped on to a loads of Americans. Doesn't really work.

Wrists said:
Tipsy Giant said:
the british version was shit but 16 is legal here so no outcry of pedophilia, plus we aren't as reactionary as america
That was also because all of the actors were over 18, which is the age you have to be at (in the UK at least) to participate in simulated or real sex on screen.
I'm pretty sure they weren't.

Kaya Scodelario (Effy) has a sex scene in the first episode of the third series and I'm pretty sure she was 17 then, and she'd already had scenes in the prior 2 series.

Lord Kloo said:
It is realistic for the scummier areas of urban areas where lots of people attend parties and get laid before 16 but why would I want to watch that..?
Skins is not realistic (for anybody), and you sound conservative before your time.
 

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So, a show about the lives of teenagers who drink, take drugs, and have sex.... why bother? I can just go to a party or school and see the same thing.
 

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Tipsy Giant said:
The issue is also with "appearing to be under the age limit" if you are portraying a person under the limit this is also against the law in america (please correct me if i'm wrong, this was my understanding of US law)
I don't know if it's illegal in the US, I can only view things from my perspective in the UK, am I right in thinking we share that? Maybe not....

Anyway, I believe in the UK it doesn't matter provided the actor is over 18, which of course reduces the capability for the actor to portray very young characters. But to reiterate, I have no idea of the legality of that in America, though I remember hearing something about it I can't recall it in enough detail to provide a useful argument about it.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
If this were legit concern for child pornography, should we not be expecting the police to be knocking down their door, confiscating it, and pressing charges, raher than engaging in debate over whether or not it's fit for broadcast?

Last I checked posession was a crime.

-m
Presumably this is why they sat down to discuss who was liable; if "posession" were only to cover the actual, phsyical evidence (photographs, video tapes etc) then those executives who has never directly handled the material or had anything to do with it's production have nothing to worry about.

Makes an interesting question, though - if the material is never distributed and remains in the hands of, say, some poor editor somewhere, is he the one posessing the child pornography and the one liable to be arrested for it?

OT: The whole thing is pretty stupid. The first two series of Skins were great, and while overblown, they were a pretty good reflection of how kids were when I was at that age. Parties, drugs, sex etc. A large part of this is probably, as someone already said, parents not wanting to face up to the things their kids are already doing...
 

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Wrists said:
Tipsy Giant said:
The issue is also with "appearing to be under the age limit" if you are portraying a person under the limit this is also against the law in america (please correct me if i'm wrong, this was my understanding of US law)
I don't know if it's illegal in the US, I can only view things from my perspective in the UK, am I right in thinking we share that? Maybe not....

Anyway, I believe in the UK it doesn't matter provided the actor is over 18, which of course reduces the capability for the actor to portray very young characters. But to reiterate, I have no idea of the legality of that in America, though I remember hearing something about it I can't recall it in enough detail to provide a useful argument about it.
Yeah we do, I actually live in Bristol so had to put up with all the cast and crew closing off streets I needed to walk down, bastards
 

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Why does it seem to me that most of the comedy in America is some sort of rip of British comedy: "Whose Line Is It Anyway?," "The Office," "Top Gear," apparently "Being Human [http://www.daemonstv.com/2011/01/17/being-human-there-goes-the-neighborhood-review]." (It is in a comment on the bottom so I dont know how accurate it is.)

And I am sure there are many many more examples.

Edit: Oh right I am an American, just fyi.
 

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wow thats a lot of hate i wasn't expecting. I for one fucking loved skins.
Also it shouldn't be counted as pornography as long as it's original purpose isn't you know pornography.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
If this were legit concern for child pornography, should we not be expecting the police to be knocking down their door, confiscating it, and pressing charges, raher than engaging in debate over whether or not it's fit for broadcast?

Last I checked posession was a crime.

-m
Creation, possession, attempt to *, or even vaguely skirting the possible fringes of what may or may not, depending on one's religious and/or philosophical upbringing, offend the sensibilities of some dirtbag who can't stand the thought of something they disagree with appearing on TV.

In the US, that also goes for every other thing which might possibly offend someone, not merely porn, let alone kiddie porn.

And since when were 16+yos "children"? If they're old enough to be drafted to fight in third-world militia...
 

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Tipsy Giant said:
Wrists said:
Tipsy Giant said:
The issue is also with "appearing to be under the age limit" if you are portraying a person under the limit this is also against the law in america (please correct me if i'm wrong, this was my understanding of US law)
I don't know if it's illegal in the US, I can only view things from my perspective in the UK, am I right in thinking we share that? Maybe not....

Anyway, I believe in the UK it doesn't matter provided the actor is over 18, which of course reduces the capability for the actor to portray very young characters. But to reiterate, I have no idea of the legality of that in America, though I remember hearing something about it I can't recall it in enough detail to provide a useful argument about it.
Yeah we do, I actually live in Bristol so had to put up with all the cast and crew closing off streets I needed to walk down, bastards
It is indeed illegal to even *appear* to be Sub-18s engaged in sexual activities, in the US.

Because apparently, as so many management books love to point out, "feeling are facts," for some asshole who can't use a dictionary's definition of "facts."
 

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Tipsy Giant said:
Yeah we do, I actually live in Bristol so had to put up with all the cast and crew closing off streets I needed to walk down, bastards
Unlucky, I suppose you're looking forward to the next two years where the process shall be repeated ad (further) nauseam.

Woodsey said:
I'm pretty sure they weren't.

Kaya Scodelario (Effy) has a sex scene in the first episode of the third series and I'm pretty sure she was 17 then, and she'd already had scenes in the prior 2 series.
That would constitute photography/filmography involving a minor involved in sexually suggestive poses/movement. I'm fairly sure that that is illegal so she was probably over 18, at least in series 3 and 4.
 

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Didn't MTV use to play music? Isn't MTV an acronym for Music Television?

[small]No honestly...I really don't watch TV all that much[/small]
 

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Buchichu said:
I watched the UK version and it was pretty good - great acting anyway - but "realistic"? Not where I come from, anyway. Jesus, if the way those kids acted was in any way representative of the general teen population society would crumble in about 2 generations.
Come to edinburgh then, apart from the more dramatic plot points (the season one finale, cassies character ect) the drink, sex and drugs are all par for the course up here among some of my friends.

Well at least at my former school.
 

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MTV: Where Snookie just isnt trashy enough.

Yes this is a pretty blatant grab for the pedophile demographic by announcing "Hrm, were worried our show is kinda pedoish"
 

viranimus

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CezarIgnat said:
Didn't MTV use to play music? Isn't MTV an acronym for Music Television?

[small]No honestly...I really don't watch TV all that much[/small]
Originally yes, but the M was changed to Moronic back in I think 1989 or so after the success of Remote control. Its all been down hill from there.

If I had a time machine, I would not go back and kill hitler, I would go back to 89 and go onto remote control just to put 2 between the eyes of Sandler before he had a chance to help perpetuate the downward spiral.
 

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metroidgearsolid said:
skins? the most realistic show on tv? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Quoted for truth. I have the pleasure of living in Bristol, UK where the original is filmed. It's bollocks, basically.