My idea for a new Fallout

[SinisterGehe]

You know what'd be an even better idea for a new Fallout?

One where creatures don't spawn in the floor, then spazz out and make me switch the game off.
One where characters don't stretch randomly on death, spazz out and make me switch the game off.
One where people's heads don't spin on their shoulders, and make me switch the game off.
One where the isn't a million different bugs per square mile of the game world.

If you haven't noticed, graphics glitches scare the crap out of me

Well I have no graphic issues, I only have occasional crash. Check your graphic drivers/card and your setup, maybe there is issue with them. Because mostlikely the issue is on your side. I got a older model of a graphics card and I have issue with it and fallout but my new one has a lot of issues with fallout.

 

[badgersprite]

Okay, that is actually a genuinely good idea. I'm thoroughly intrigued. It never even occurred to me before, but the more I think about it, the more I think it would be an amazing idea. Except, I wouldn't fast forward 200 years in the future immediately. I think it would work better if the character had a few gradual skips forward in time as different stages in the "main quest" or main story are completed. 1 day after the bombs fell. 10 years after the bombs fell. 30 years after the bombs fell. 75 years after the bombs fell. It would be a change for the Fallout series, to be sure, but I don't see how this change would be inherently bad.

I mean, obviously, you'd be slowly decaying in between this time, until the end of the game where you'd basically just be a living corpse who couldn't move, but that in itself would be such an interesting gameplay mechanic. It would be a means of making the game increasingly challenging, and hence giving it a difficulty curve, with a satisfying and emotionally resonant story reason. I just love the idea of a final boss fight where you're essentially immobile and every single action you take is a physical struggle you have to fight your hardest to do.

Good idea.

 

[Artinam]

I like the idea, it creates quite a different feeling to the game and you will feel the discrimination of being one, whereas you can't help who you are (how many games explore this?).

This might get scary close the experience how it was to be afro-american 60 years or so ago in the US without actually being afro-american. Something I can only salute.

You have a diversity of ghouls you could play (Old, new, VAT experiment glitch (like Harold), skinny, big ect.).

Furthermore:
I'd love a game to atleast explore parts of Europe or Asia, you can have part of the game of it there. It would seriously deepen the setting.
Its like GTA, all of them are set in American cities. Whereas GTA London was something quite unique when it was released.


Then again, I'm biased as I'm a European.

 

[plugav]

I like the idea, but why would you start 200 years in the past just to fast-forward a few scenes later? If you want to play in Fallout's "present day," you could become a ghoul then, I think that's entirely possible (though not as cool).

Then there is the question of whether anyone today would publish a game with an ugly and weak protagonist.

 

[Vault101]

Earlier today I had an interesting idea for a new Fallout while I was playing New Vegas... But now I can't seem to remember what it was.... Oh, there it is.

I imagined a Fallout where you play as a Ghoul. For the opening of the game (Imagine the beginning of Fallout 3 in Vault 101) You start of as a normal human being 200 years ago, on the day the bombs fell, going about your daily life. You'd get up, have little errands to complete that would serve as a tutorial to acclimate you to the game, and then at mid-day the nuclear holocaust would hit and you would have to flee for shelter as the shit hits the fan around you. The screen fades out as you enter your shelter, the glow of the fires outside leaking in... Fast forward 200 years to the present Fallout universe, with images and soundclips to represent said passing of time... and thats as far as I got. :< I can't think of what would go next.

Anyways, how does it sound? Do you fellow Fallout fans out there think it would be any good? And what do you think would go next?

awsome

it would be cool to be able to experience some pre war but also the actual event itself has alot of potential

also I thourght from a technical standpoint you would customize your adult face as normal...then after the bombs fall and the main story kicks its "goulified" like I dont know the texture is changes and other stuff (if that makes sense from a technical standpoint)

 

[Vault101]

I like the idea, but why would you start 200 years in the past just to fast-forward a few scenes later? If you want to play in Fallout's "present day," you could become a ghoul then, I think that's entirely possible (though not as cool).

Then there is the question of whether anyone today would publish a game with an ugly and weak protagonist.

it would have the fallout brand and probably a new engine so its not AS big a risk

and even then I guess it could be kind of a case of "hollywood ugly" I mean sure you would still be ugly but mabye not be byond the point of looking human ,like the nameless one from planescape torment, I mean you wouldnt have to look exactally like the current ghouls

they would still probably give you a little more hair and a nose

 

[Magnesium360]

But.....But......But then the protagonist won't be a White guy with stubble and Short Brown hair! And we all know that Publishers automatically assume that not a SINGLE Person on the face of the planet will play a game where the protag isn't a White dude with Stubble and Short Brown Hair!! (yes yes, Hyperbole)

Because, according to game publishers, the entire Human race is a big group of Racist BIGOTS....

OT: I think that's a great idea, actually.

Captcha: 10 cubed. Like literally a little superscript 3 after a 10. How do I write that?

Not just hyperbole, that would apply better if the game were to have a white protagonist "with stubble and short brown hair" rather than a large focus on character customisation. It's really less exagerration and more of a minor off topic rant.

OT: Playing as a ghoul would be cool, but it could also prove problematic. Essentially it would end up as a simple re-skin, either with or without some major disadvantages and few, if any, advantage.

 

[Sucal]

The only fallout spinoff I want, is Fallout Australia. If america has so many things trying to kill you, imagine what the radiation would do too Australia's wildlife.

 

[Ossian]

Because in five minutes and I threw up my arms, screamed "done" and shut the game off before throwing it in the garbage.

Did not happen. Unless you pirated the game and it cost you no money. Or you're a millionaire.

 

[Eric_Autopsy]

NO
I WANT
MORE DESERTS

 

[Mcupobob]

I can't remember but Ghouls are immune to radiation right? So how about where you play a ghoul whos part of organization that has you treasure hunting or something in radioactive zones or something.

 

[Appleshampoo]

You know what'd be an even better idea for a new Fallout?

One where creatures don't spawn in the floor, then spazz out and make me switch the game off.
One where characters don't stretch randomly on death, spazz out and make me switch the game off.
One where people's heads don't spin on their shoulders, and make me switch the game off.
One where the isn't a million different bugs per square mile of the game world.

If you haven't noticed, graphics glitches scare the crap out of me

And I want people to stop whining about glitches, they're always bound to happen.

Actually come to think of it, Fallout 3 has never bugged out on me, must be your obsolete hardware.

My obsolete hardware? Yup. My Quad core and my XFX HD 5770 are so out dated NOTHING runs these days! If only I could run Black ops, Modern warfare 2, Final fantasy XIV, Crysis 1 and 2, and Metro 2033 without any problems. Oh, wait. I can run all of those games with 0 problems. Ever. Only one of those I've had a problem with was black ops due to it sucking at release.

And quick youtube search for fallout 3 stretch bugs will show you I'm not the only one with the problems

[Got your answer for you:

I'm curious why you're frightened about graphical glitches. It can be a bit unnerving the first second or so, but I often find it funny once I realize what's going on.

Anyway, a Fallout game where you play as a ghoul would be interesting. It would probably pose an extra challenge, what with most humans treating you like a freak.

Fallout 2 was awesome. And the reason they frighten me is because back in my childhood days, I was playing a Sonic game, and at the end of one of them he pops out at the screen to give you the thumbs up. Well, my game messed up and he popped up with Black demon eyes and it scared the hell out of me. I was young. Ever since then graphics glitchs like that make me really nervous.

Anyway, OT - Ghoul idea is nice, but it'd have to be really well done otherwise you'd spend most of the game in one city and the rest being shot at by about everyone but my main character from Fallout 3 who was nice to Ghouls, though I doubt he'll be making an appearance.

The option to turn into a ghoul via some form of radiation exposure or whatever would be nice, as it'd give you the option to play smooth-skin or ghoul style.

Also, give Fallout UK. Or at least some hint as to what's happened to the rest of the world. Surely in the time span since the bombs have dropped SOMEONE has visited another part of the world.

 

[ArtemusClydeFrog]

You know...not sure if it was a bug or not, but I've seen ghouls in the NCR. In one of the outposts.

You're absolutely right:

Ghouls are allowed in NCR, but for the Legion they are shot and killed on sight. NCR is also very open minded, racism and sexism isn't really rampant. In the Legion its practically a way of life. Think like this:

NCR: Liberals, Democrats.

Actually, I didn't think too much about that example, but you're both absolutely right, NCR is an open-minded faction. Still, all I meant to say is that freeroaming and exploring the wasteland(s) in the way we're used to would be very difficult (or at least very different)if you were a ghoul.
If seen from a positive perspective, it could be like this:

Sounds like the perfect setup for some sort of stealth-based spinoff to me. You can't handle well in a fight and there's a lot of, for lack of a better word, racism against you causing people to want to lynch you. Therefore, don't get seen.

I still think I'd feel as if I was missing out on a lot of things compared to the way the games normally play.
But who knows, the next Fallout game might be completely different to 3/NV - and "ghoul mode" as an addition would be fun to play around with.

 

[370999]

I think it is a good idea for a game set in the Fallout universe. but as the main entry in the series, no. Fallout is about making decisions, at least to me, and by being a ghoul you are automatically depreived some of the choices you could make (Some of the more prejudiced groups like the Legion).

 

[piratejames]

Idea snip

It sounds kind of intriguing. I'd like to see how it would work. Maybe it'd be better as maybe like an optional thing, or a DLC of some sort?

 

[Dalek Caan]

Earlier today I had an interesting idea for a new Fallout while I was playing New Vegas... But now I can't seem to remember what it was.... Oh, there it is.

I imagined a Fallout where you play as a Ghoul. For the opening of the game (Imagine the beginning of Fallout 3 in Vault 101) You start of as a normal human being 200 years ago, on the day the bombs fell, going about your daily life. You'd get up, have little errands to complete that would serve as a tutorial to acclimate you to the game, and then at mid-day the nuclear holocaust would hit and you would have to flee for shelter as the shit hits the fan around you. The screen fades out as you enter your shelter, the glow of the fires outside leaking in... Fast forward 200 years to the present Fallout universe, with images and soundclips to represent said passing of time... and thats as far as I got. :< I can't think of what would go next.

Anyways, how does it sound? Do you fellow Fallout fans out there think it would be any good? And what do you think would go next?

I wonder if there is a mod like this.....oh wait I have a 360, could always jailbreak thought but then no more multiplayer.

 

[zdgrafyd]

I don't understand the rage this topic has created. Its a good idea. Its even been done before, a lot. Why is there any conflict with lore? In FO2 you can get a ghoul companion. In FO:Tactics you control different races: humans, ghouls, robots, cyborgs, super mutants and even deathclaws. There's also a mod for FO3 where you can pick a different start and race/faction, including but not limited to: ghoul, raider, slaver, android from the commonwealth.
Again, letting us play as a different race - great idea.

The arguments against don't make sense to me: you would be shot on sight? - 1) how is this different from playing as a human? plenty of nasty things want to kill you on sight, regardless of race - raiders, talon mercs, bounty hunters, animals, super mutants etc.
2) why would you be? oh sure there are some nasty bad racist people who would shoot you, but not everyone is like that! Broken Hills was a town where ghouls, super mutants and humans (and a talking plant and an intelligent scorpion) lived together. There is no reason to believe that everyone hates ghouls!

You can't be a ghoul because they are decaying corpses with bits falling off and most of your stats would be 1 - 2 points only? - Utter rubbish! In FO3 feral ghouls are some of the toughest opponents you meet. Roy Phillips was a police officer before the war. In 2277 AD he is still very fit, a decent fighter, NOT feral. It is NOT canon that ghouls are rotting corpses. It is only the racial slurs that people say about them in the games, the same people that call them zombies. Ghouls are not zombies. Not all ghouls are falling apart, and you don't need to be a recent ghoul to not be falling apart (see Roy Phillips)

Again, its a good idea. You should check out the FO3 mods that let you play as a ghoul if you're interested. And there is no reason to rage against ghouls.

EDIT: I found the mod I meant - FWE - FO3 Wanderers Edition
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761
https://sites.google.com/site/fo3wanderersedition/detailed-changes/01character#TOC-Alternative-Starts-credit:-Alternat

 

[Fooz]

I imagined a Fallout where you play as a Ghoul.

you can kind off become a ghoul i think, if you let yourself get REALLY radiated then you start looking like one

 

[Sarpedon]

I like the idea, but why would you start 200 years in the past just to fast-forward a few scenes later? If you want to play in Fallout's "present day," you could become a ghoul then, I think that's entirely possible (though not as cool).

Then there is the question of whether anyone today would publish a game with an ugly and weak protagonist.

Because, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's been a fallout game where any of it was set in the pre-apocalypse age, nor a game where you got to live the day when the bombs dropped.

 

[Sarpedon]

In (original) fallout lore

"This playing-as-a-ghoul idea goes against official Fallout canon. You are a heretic and must be executed! Its the only way to preserve the purity of the Fallout universe."

- The fun folks and NMA

Fuck lore, it gets in the way of fun.

On Topic.

There are a few mods that turn you into a Ghoul, but those are purely cosmetic. I think it'd be kind of interesting. Most everyone is incredibly prejudiced against you, so you really have to fend for yourself. I wouldn't mind playing it.

Oh great another consumer who wants Gears of War clones 100% of the time. Is Cole train in one game not enough? Because in five minutes and I threw up my arms, screamed "done" and shut the game off before throwing it in the garbage.

Also being a ghoul is not fun in any sense of the word. Most of your stats stay at either 1 or 2. The skills are not much better. If people called New Vegas hard, I'd hate to see them play a fallout with a ghoul main character.

Wow, really? That fucking insult again? Shut the fuck up, dude.

Lore is great, sure. But not when people take their obsession with it to such a degree that it stops others from being able to enjoy a game. Really, my sentence should have been, "Fuck lore nerds, they get in the way of fun," instead of saying it was the lore itself.

Oh yes because god forbid story and lore get in the way of your mindless fun in a role-playing game. Does the baseball game get in the way of your baseball game, too? (extreme sarcasm)

Story and continuity has been apart of games for decades now, welcome to the 21st century.

But games don't need to stick to it like they're made of fucking superglue. Changes can be made. Fanboys will cry, but they always do.

In (original) fallout lore

"This playing-as-a-ghoul idea goes against official Fallout canon. You are a heretic and must be executed! Its the only way to preserve the purity of the Fallout universe."

- The fun folks and NMA

Fuck lore, it gets in the way of fun.

On Topic.

There are a few mods that turn you into a Ghoul, but those are purely cosmetic. I think it'd be kind of interesting. Most everyone is incredibly prejudiced against you, so you really have to fend for yourself. I wouldn't mind playing it.

Oh great another consumer who wants Gears of War clones 100% of the time. Is Cole train in one game not enough? Because in five minutes and I threw up my arms, screamed "done" and shut the game off before throwing it in the garbage.

Also being a ghoul is not fun in any sense of the word. Most of your stats stay at either 1 or 2. The skills are not much better. If people called New Vegas hard, I'd hate to see them play a fallout with a ghoul main character.

Wow, really? That fucking insult again? Shut the fuck up, dude.

Lore is great, sure. But not when people take their obsession with it to such a degree that it stops others from being able to enjoy a game. Really, my sentence should have been, "Fuck lore nerds, they get in the way of fun," instead of saying it was the lore itself.

Oh yes because god forbid story and lore get in the way of your mindless fun in a role-playing game. Does the baseball game get in the way of your baseball game, too? (extreme sarcasm)

Story and continuity has been apart of games for decades now, welcome to the 21st century.

But games don't need to stick to it like they're made of fucking superglue. Changes can be made. Fanboys will cry, but they always do.

Oh yes because a role playing game cannot have any sort of story or continuity in it. Why not make a FPS without weapons? Obviously its not needed.

I'm truly shocked this is what my idea has devolved into. Seriously, if you two want to grapple each others throats, take it elsewhere.