I don't remember all the names sorry.Eomega123 said:Apples? Perhaps you mean Applejackhotsauceman said:Btw apples is the best pony.
I don't remember all the names sorry.Eomega123 said:Apples? Perhaps you mean Applejackhotsauceman said:Btw apples is the best pony.
I understand you not wanting to watch the show. I understand you not being hyped for the fighter. I understand you not understanding what is so good about the show.Jimbo1212 said:*Snip*
WOOO!uncanny474 said:I understand you not wanting to watch the show. I understand you not being hyped for the fighter. I understand you not understanding what is so good about the show.Jimbo1212 said:*Snip*
What I don't understand is why you insist on trying to ruin other's enjoyment. The Bronies here tried to explain why the show is good, and you didn't understand/didn't agree with their arguments. That's fine. You're allowed to have a different perspective than them. Just don't watch the show and go to a non-pony thread. PLENTY of those around these parts, even with the 700+ member usergroup for ponies. The Escapist has a habit of banning off-topic posts, so you won't see ponies out of pony-designated threads.
Is their choice of entertainment stupid, silly, or nonsensical? Arguably, yes. Does that mean that they shouldn't be allowed to partake? Heck no. They're not hurting anyone (in fact, MLP promotes friendship and understanding, so hurting others is the last thing on most of their minds), so why should we take away their enjoyment.
I'm not a Brony myself (although I've been meaning to check out the show just to see what all the hubbub is), but it's this sort of prejudiced intolerance that inflames me. Why is it that people who take pleasure in ruining other people's enjoyment are encouraged on the internet, while people who just want to have a good time watching a children's television show are shunned? The sooner we can accept that other people are allowed to have different opinions from ours, the sooner the world can get on with living and make that cure for cancer everyone's so worked up about.
Welcome to the Herd mien friend here's the link to the user group please join and bask in the poniness.hotsauceman said:Seeing this thread made me go look this show up. Now i found it fairly entertaining. Btw apples is the best pony. But i hope this game is like browser or xbla downloadable. But then i would have a lot to explain to my friend.
Do not confuse intolerance with concern. Also, other peoples opinions are wrong unless they can reason them, which they have failed to do so on this thread.uncanny474 said:I understand you not wanting to watch the show. I understand you not being hyped for the fighter. I understand you not understanding what is so good about the show.
What I don't understand is why you insist on trying to ruin other's enjoyment. The Bronies here tried to explain why the show is good, and you didn't understand/didn't agree with their arguments. That's fine. You're allowed to have a different perspective than them. Just don't watch the show and go to a non-pony thread. PLENTY of those around these parts, even with the 700+ member usergroup for ponies. The Escapist has a habit of banning off-topic posts, so you won't see ponies out of pony-designated threads.
Is their choice of entertainment stupid, silly, or nonsensical? Arguably, yes. Does that mean that they shouldn't be allowed to partake? Heck no. They're not hurting anyone (in fact, MLP promotes friendship and understanding, so hurting others is the last thing on most of their minds), so why should we take away their enjoyment.
I'm not a Brony myself (although I've been meaning to check out the show just to see what all the hubbub is), but it's this sort of prejudiced intolerance that inflames me. Why is it that people who take pleasure in ruining other people's enjoyment are encouraged on the internet, while people who just want to have a good time watching a children's television show are shunned? The sooner we can accept that other people are allowed to have different opinions from ours, the sooner the world can get on with living and make that cure for cancer everyone's so worked up about.
I certainly wouldn't be the one accusing others of failing to reason, were I in your shoes.Jimbo1212 said:Do not confuse intolerance with concern. Also, other peoples opinions are wrong unless they can reason them, which they have failed to do so on this thread.uncanny474 said:I understand you not wanting to watch the show. I understand you not being hyped for the fighter. I understand you not understanding what is so good about the show.
What I don't understand is why you insist on trying to ruin other's enjoyment. The Bronies here tried to explain why the show is good, and you didn't understand/didn't agree with their arguments. That's fine. You're allowed to have a different perspective than them. Just don't watch the show and go to a non-pony thread. PLENTY of those around these parts, even with the 700+ member usergroup for ponies. The Escapist has a habit of banning off-topic posts, so you won't see ponies out of pony-designated threads.
Is their choice of entertainment stupid, silly, or nonsensical? Arguably, yes. Does that mean that they shouldn't be allowed to partake? Heck no. They're not hurting anyone (in fact, MLP promotes friendship and understanding, so hurting others is the last thing on most of their minds), so why should we take away their enjoyment.
I'm not a Brony myself (although I've been meaning to check out the show just to see what all the hubbub is), but it's this sort of prejudiced intolerance that inflames me. Why is it that people who take pleasure in ruining other people's enjoyment are encouraged on the internet, while people who just want to have a good time watching a children's television show are shunned? The sooner we can accept that other people are allowed to have different opinions from ours, the sooner the world can get on with living and make that cure for cancer everyone's so worked up about.
John Funk said:I certainly wouldn't be the one accusing others of failing to reason, were I in your shoes.Jimbo1212 said:Do not confuse intolerance with concern. Also, other peoples opinions are wrong unless they can reason them, which they have failed to do so on this thread.
Except I have and I also went into great detail.John Funk said:I certainly wouldn't be the one accusing others of failing to reason, were I in your shoes.
So explaining why liking a child show is probably odd compared to an adult show is not reasoning , yet saying 'Nah, be open minded' is sound reasoning? Huh.......starwarsgeek said:Actually, his comment seems to imply he doesn't need to reason. "other peoples opinions are worthless unless they can reason them...". Evidently, he believes his opinion is the default correct one; it's just the rest of us who need to back up our claims.
Hmm...the rest of his comments make much more sense now...
Your comments have shown neither logic nor reason other than steadfastly clinging to the mistaken assumption that more complex = better, and that a well-done show for children with smart writing, excellent characterization and fantastic voice acting, designed to be enjoyed by children as well as their parents, cannot be enjoyed by adult animation fans who have no children. Your entire arguments come down to subjective statements of opinion, yet you obnoxiously treat them as fact in the face of countless people telling you precisely what it is they like about the series.Jimbo1212 said:Except I have and I also went into great detail.John Funk said:I certainly wouldn't be the one accusing others of failing to reason, were I in your shoes.
How about yourself........?
So explaining why liking a child show is odd compared to an adult show is not reasoning , yet saying 'Nah, be open minded' is sound reasoning? Huh.......starwarsgeek said:Actually, his comment seems to imply he doesn't need to reason. "other peoples opinions are worthless unless they can reason them...". Evidently, he believes his opinion is the default correct one; it's just the rest of us who need to back up our claims.
Hmm...the rest of his comments make much more sense now...
Yes, your argument was bad reasoning. You brought up mature, quality shows, but that has nothing to do with the debate (which is only slightly related to the thread anyway...). Your logic doesn't stand because it's possible to watch multiple shows. Unless Game of Thrones and My Little Pony are mutually exclusive, Game of Thrones has no place in this pointless debate.Jimbo1212 said:So explaining why liking a child show is probably odd compared to an adult show is not reasoning , yet saying 'Nah, be open minded' is sound reasoning? Huh.......starwarsgeek said:Actually, his comment seems to imply he doesn't need to reason. "other peoples opinions are worthless unless they can reason them...". Evidently, he believes his opinion is the default correct one; it's just the rest of us who need to back up our claims.
Hmm...the rest of his comments make much more sense now...
Well last post then, so to clarify:John Funk said:Your comments have shown neither logic nor reason other than steadfastly clinging to the mistaken assumption that more complex = better, and that a well-done show for children with smart writing, excellent characterization and fantastic voice acting, designed to be enjoyed by children as well as their parents, cannot be enjoyed by adult animation fans who have no children. Your entire arguments come down to subjective statements of opinion, yet you obnoxiously treat them as fact in the face of countless people telling you precisely what it is they like about the series.
Simplicity is not a word to be avoided. Complexity is not innately good. There can be shows that are poorly complex (see: LOST) and shows that are elegantly simple (see: MLP FiM, classic Looney Toons).
You are also under the bizarre mindset that someone who likes a show primarily aimed at a younger audience cannot also enjoy works aimed at adults - or that one cannot be both. That's like saying someone can't appreciate the beautiful platforming simplicity of Super Mario World, the mind-bending three-dimensional play of Super Mario Galaxy, AND the gorgeous artistry of Shadow of the Colossus. This is an argument that fails on every possible logical and rational level, and yet you're presenting it like gospel.
You seem to have an inability to appreciate the merits of something - or to even enjoy something - if it isn't a dark, grim show "aimed at adults." For that, I genuinely pity you.
And frankly, dude?
You're just being a jerk. Stop it.
Yes, actually, you have been saying that.Jimbo1212 said:Well last post then, so to clarify:John Funk said:Your comments have shown neither logic nor reason other than steadfastly clinging to the mistaken assumption that more complex = better, and that a well-done show for children with smart writing, excellent characterization and fantastic voice acting, designed to be enjoyed by children as well as their parents, cannot be enjoyed by adult animation fans who have no children. Your entire arguments come down to subjective statements of opinion, yet you obnoxiously treat them as fact in the face of countless people telling you precisely what it is they like about the series.
Simplicity is not a word to be avoided. Complexity is not innately good. There can be shows that are poorly complex (see: LOST) and shows that are elegantly simple (see: MLP FiM, classic Looney Toons).
You are also under the bizarre mindset that someone who likes a show primarily aimed at a younger audience cannot also enjoy works aimed at adults - or that one cannot be both. That's like saying someone can't appreciate the beautiful platforming simplicity of Super Mario World, the mind-bending three-dimensional play of Super Mario Galaxy, AND the gorgeous artistry of Shadow of the Colossus. This is an argument that fails on every possible logical and rational level, and yet you're presenting it like gospel.
You seem to have an inability to appreciate the merits of something - or to even enjoy something - if it isn't a dark, grim show "aimed at adults." For that, I genuinely pity you.
And frankly, dude?
You're just being a jerk. Stop it.
- I have never said 'dark and gritty = good' or ' complex = good', that is a straw man.
- You can not appreciate both media examples I presented unless the person like to have conflicting views as the shows are opposite. It is the same as saying you like cars for being big, but you like small cars.
I have to say I am disappointed that I get called a jerk for simply asking people to reason why they like a show at their age.
I like MLP. I also like GoT (though the books are better).Jimbo1212 said:- You can not appreciate both media examples I presented unless the person like to have conflicting views as the shows are opposite. It is the same as saying you like cars for being big, but you like small cars.
Salright we forgive ya and still love ya.hotsauceman said:I don't remember all the names sorry.Eomega123 said:Apples? Perhaps you mean Applejackhotsauceman said:Btw apples is the best pony.