I'm picturing something like RE4, where the c-stick would tilt the camera 20 degrees or so in any direction. Hell, I already find myself leaning over on the couch trying to see around corners. Why not use that?Mazty said:
Natal Will Have "Real, Hardcore" Games
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except no one will even bother to claim its revolutionary. I'll have to see it in action but i am seriously sceptical - - as sceptical as if someone told me "trust me you have to try bowel surgery, it gives you such a kick!"Gamer137 said:
The curse fo the Wii, where so called the 'immersive motion tracking' is far less effective (infuriatingly so) than wrist flicks. I know so many people who bought Wii's worked this out, worked out that there were not enough games, sold the Wii over christmas for a huge profit then bought an xbox/ps3, hacked the xbox and were happy.Indigo_Dingo said:
Meh motion tracking mice for P.c's for desktop and workspace would be fun, but i'd still use tactile peripherals for games.
Natal is going to tank. If this wasn't the internet and everyone here wasn't anonymous, I'd have no problem putting down money on that either.
This is Microsoft we're talking about here. Everything next gen they have released, including the system itself, has either been plagued with problems or just a scam to make people spend money when a workaround would have been just fine.
They say they'll develop hardcore gamer stuff, but no one is developing hardcore gamer stuff for the Wii. I don't see how Natal will be any different. It's just a gimmick to make you buy more useless crap from Microsoft so Bill Gates can become richer and everyone else can become poorer.
This is Microsoft we're talking about here. Everything next gen they have released, including the system itself, has either been plagued with problems or just a scam to make people spend money when a workaround would have been just fine.
They say they'll develop hardcore gamer stuff, but no one is developing hardcore gamer stuff for the Wii. I don't see how Natal will be any different. It's just a gimmick to make you buy more useless crap from Microsoft so Bill Gates can become richer and everyone else can become poorer.
Something tells me that hardly anyone actually will buy Natal anyway. Maybe it'll come bundled with their hardcore "triple A" (whatever the FUCK that means) game that comes out.
I did that from the first day. It's the way I preferred playing. It's not so much the motion sensitivity that does it for me as the IR camera that gives you pointer capabilities. In my dream world, Xbox 360 shooters can be played with the Wii Remote. That's console FPS perfection right there.Mrsnugglesworth said:
Thats actually what I thought. And using your head to turn the view? For Frigs sake, its not a virtual reality headset, the screen DOESN'T turn with your view...Indigo_Dingo said:
I'm open to the idea that it can work with 'hardcore' games, but I'm doubtful they will get it working.
Haha, because that's how long their development timetable is... remember how LONG it took them to release Perfect Dark?AceDiamond said:
Look up a man named Johnny Lee and his Wii remote hacks. Realize that this man was picked up my Microsoft. I think they could really have something going if they are willing to let this man run wild and find new and creative uses for the technology.Indigo_Dingo said:
Tehehe, the only thing worth getting a wii for is SSBB and that doesnt even use motion controls. But seriously on my podcast me and my friends covered this sort of thing with our "Iron Designer Challenge" where one of us come up with a game design based challenge. The challenge this time was make a FPS for the wii that will save its floundering badness.Gamer137 said:
I won, with the idea of a GOW clone with TF2 style graphics where the nun-chuck analogue controls movement and turns you while the wiimote aims on the screen. Thats what Wii FPS' should be.
Natal has potential to be awesome, just as the Wii does.
It will be up to how the technology is treated. Nintendo have done well with the Wii, the reason people ***** about it is because of the crap everyone else releases, you can't expect one company to develop the console as well as fill its library single handedly.
Microsoft probably won't have that problem. Its already established itself as a console aimed at teens to adults, so it likely will dodge the multiple bullets that are shovelware games.
Unfortunately the Wii's cheap price coupled with its ease of use coming from the motion controls attracted games that wanted to take advantage of Nintendo's kid friendly attitude. Microsoft's issue will be attracting designers to design for Natal, I'd be surprised if it wasn't rather difficult to grasp (at least initially) so whilst I'm sure MS will make some awesome games for it, others might just stick to the basic control schemes.
Sorry if this wasn't as fluent and comprehensible as it could be, I'm not 100% with it atm.
It will be up to how the technology is treated. Nintendo have done well with the Wii, the reason people ***** about it is because of the crap everyone else releases, you can't expect one company to develop the console as well as fill its library single handedly.
Microsoft probably won't have that problem. Its already established itself as a console aimed at teens to adults, so it likely will dodge the multiple bullets that are shovelware games.
Unfortunately the Wii's cheap price coupled with its ease of use coming from the motion controls attracted games that wanted to take advantage of Nintendo's kid friendly attitude. Microsoft's issue will be attracting designers to design for Natal, I'd be surprised if it wasn't rather difficult to grasp (at least initially) so whilst I'm sure MS will make some awesome games for it, others might just stick to the basic control schemes.
Sorry if this wasn't as fluent and comprehensible as it could be, I'm not 100% with it atm.
When this is released i think its time to do a bit of milo bullying
hes gunna wish he was never created
hes gunna wish he was never created