Naughty Dog: Uncharted 2 'Impossible' On Xbox 360

[BolognaBaloney]

troll activity in itself. He made an albeit crude criticism of a game yet you had to make it personal and respond with a direct insult. Do you really think that is a civilised way to converse? This forum is slowly turning into the gametrailers.com forum.

He said he played douchebags in two games...that obviously means he likes being a douchebag. What's so hard to understand about that? Then again, you also do quite a bit of douchebaggery, especially in this particular thread, so I'm not at all surprised to see you attempting to stick up for another douchebag troll.

Actually, he's not sticking up for "another douchebag troll" rather he is trying to tell you that wrathful words bring only harsh feelings. You would do well to listen to what people have to say, only a fool critiques those who offer wisdom. He is far from a troll, he merely suggests that a bit of civility would do quite a bit of good.

So this has exactly what to do with Uncharted 2 and the 360? Nothing? That's what I thought. Take it to PM's if you really want to discuss this.

That's a bit of the change from your previous stance. If you really were trying to discuss uncharted, you would have done so earlier, but tracing your conversations back, all your posts contributed to calling people douchebags. Yet, now you would like to take it to PM's to avoid the gaze of others...Hypocrisy thy name is Mornelithe.

 

[BolognaBaloney]

troll activity in itself. He made an albeit crude criticism of a game yet you had to make it personal and respond with a direct insult. Do you really think that is a civilised way to converse? This forum is slowly turning into the gametrailers.com forum.

He said he played douchebags in two games...that obviously means he likes being a douchebag. What's so hard to understand about that? Then again, you also do quite a bit of douchebaggery, especially in this particular thread, so I'm not at all surprised to see you attempting to stick up for another douchebag troll.

Actually, he's not sticking up for "another douchebag troll" rather he is trying to tell you that wrathful words bring only harsh feelings. You would do well to listen to what people have to say, only a fool critiques those who offer wisdom. He is far from a troll, he merely suggests that a bit of civility would do quite a bit of good.

So this has exactly what to do with Uncharted 2 and the 360? Nothing? That's what I thought. Take it to PM's if you really want to discuss this.

That's a bit of the change from your previous stance. If you really were trying to discuss uncharted, you would have done so earlier, but tracing your conversations back, all your posts contributed to calling people douchebags. Yet, now you would like to take it to PM's to avoid the gaze of others...Hypocrisy thy name is Mornelithe.

Excellent tracing skills:

Not that I want to be offensive here...rather, just something to gnaw on in your head. Everyone...and I mean everyone, has talked about the 'theoretical' power advantage the PS3 has. Everyone. It's also widely known that the PS3 is more difficult/completely different than PC architecture to program for. We've seen the 'theoretical' power, laid out on paper. The problem is, as everyone has noticed, nobody seems to be able to tap into that...which kind of turns it into a mockery, no?

But, what happens if someone actually figures out a way to make use of that power...and is able to apply it to a game. We're not just talking graphical acuity here, we're talking about things that go on behind the scenes, physics, lighting, particle effects, AI, environmental effects, immersive sound, objects on screen etc... all of those things as well. According to what we know about the consoles at this point in their cycle...hardware makeup and such...shouldn't the PS3 be able to handle some things the 360 just wouldn't be able to? And really, if anyone is going to do it, it's gonna be a 1st party, right?

Same thing applies to the 360 though. A Game that's designed specifically to exploit the hardware advantages it has over the PS3...shouldn't be able to be replicated on the PS3, right?

Douchebag, thy name is BalognaBaloney.

Probation, thy name is Mornelithe.

 

[dwoo21]

What the hell? Who really cares about Uncharted?

I do...

 

[13lackfriday]

I'm hoping and praying some talented modder actually ports Uncharted 2 to the 360 so we can actually put his claims to the test.

Also, that's low ND...I know you've stuck with Sony for quite some time now, but gimping around for them and playing the attack dog is unbecoming.

 

[Arassar]

I'm hoping and praying some talented modder actually ports Uncharted 2 to the 360 so we can actually put his claims to the test.

Well if his only claims about the Xbox not being able to do it rest upon "using 25 gigs of data and streaming off the HD" then he's right. However, I don't care how many huge, wasteful uncompressed textures the game uses - if the design is crap, it's pointless.

Really, this whole argument is a lot of splitting hairs. Outside of those two standard hardware things, I doubt the PS3 can do anything that the Xbox can't at least closely simulate.

 

[Takoto]

Is it just me, or has Naughty Dog been going down-hill since they gave up the rights too Crash Bandicoot and the Jak and Daxter series'? (I'm... not actually sure if they still own Jak and Daxter so correct me if I'm wrong and they still have the rights).

 

[SantoUno]

No one cares if Uncharted 2 could be possible to play on a 360, it's supposed to be a PS3 exclusive anyway.

The guy is just being a dick and secretly expressing his stupid opinion that the PS3 is more capable.

 

[karloss01]

"I guarantee that this game couldn't be working on XBox 360. It would be impossible. I'm 100 percent sure of this,"

sounds like someone gives up too easily.

EDIT: also this butch of useless gits stole amy henning from Crystal dynamics. i want my legacy of kain writer back!

 

[teh_gunslinger]

My friend has a GTX 260, 6gb of Ram and an i7 processor. He only gets about 30 FPS on very high for Crysis.
Your set up will play it on medium at best, maybe one or two high settings.
And PC gaming is far more expensive than consoles.
An OS is roughly £75, 4gb of RAM (800Mhz, anything slower is usless) is £40.
Quadcore Intel £100
Motherboard, PCI-E x16 2.0 SLI ready, minimum £80 (ASUS P5N-D).
Harddrive (above 80gb) £30.
Case £20
PSU (Adequate make) £30~
Monitor £80
GOOD Crysis graphics card (GTX 275 this will do) £230
Cheaper one for physics £30
TOTAL £705

That will play Crysis on High at a good resolution. Anything else, especially the GPU you are talking about, is medium settings.
Plus, in no way would your GPU max out the likes of Fallout at a good FPS (around 60)
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Fallout-3,1318.html
Fallout 3 Maxed with the 4770 = 36.4 FPS
You need at least a £115 card to get 60FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Far-Cry-2,1322.html
FarCry 2 on max = 7.6 FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Tom-Clancy-s-Endwar,1462.html
Endwar = 21.3FPS

I don't understand that. I have a E8500@3,16 Ghz with 4 Gb RAM and a 9800GTx+ card. And the mobo and RAM is crappy stuff, believe me, and I run Far Cry 2 at 1680x1050 with 2AA and everything else on max at about 45-50 fps.
Crysis ran at about 40 in 1680x1050 with all settings on max save 2 I can't remember on the next highest. No AA though.

Edit: looking at it it seems they insist on maxing AA and that will indeed kill most rigs in my end the hood.

 

[yamantaka ishibashi]

If Uncharted 2 doesn't need installations, then WHY THE HELL DOES MGS4?!

Because it's a shit game
nndeeeey

 

[Deef]

It makes me wonder what would happen if there was a special forum only for developers. My guess is that it would be the biggest fanboy flame war in the history of ever.

 

[Mcface]

Dont think any 360 owners really want MGS4 or Uncharted.

And I always smirk whenever a ps3 owner brags about the harddrive, and I think my gaming computer has more power in the graphics card.

 

[Karlott]

Not that I'm an Xbox fanboy (actually, i'm a PC gamer primarily) and nor have I played Uncharted or know much about Uncharted 2. But I see absolutely no reason why this game has to be 25GB in size. It's not some massive RPG right? Just a good-looking third person adventure/action game. Take something like Oblivion, which on the PC can fit onto a single-layered DVD (4.35GB) and that is a huge game with tonnes of data. Yes, the high resolution textures and what-not have to be taken into account too, but from my layman's perspective I see no reason why this cannot fit onto a dual-layered DVD which the Xbox can read.

Also, I have a high res texture pack for Oblivion which is as high-res as anything the consoles can do, perhaps more, and it was not another 20+ GB of download.

 

[Bat Vader]

troll activity in itself. He made an albeit crude criticism of a game yet you had to make it personal and respond with a direct insult. Do you really think that is a civilised way to converse? This forum is slowly turning into the gametrailers.com forum.

He said he played douchebags in two games...that obviously means he likes being a douchebag. What's so hard to understand about that? Then again, you also do quite a bit of douchebaggery, especially in this particular thread, so I'm not at all surprised to see you attempting to stick up for another douchebag troll.

Actually, he's not sticking up for "another douchebag troll" rather he is trying to tell you that wrathful words bring only harsh feelings. You would do well to listen to what people have to say, only a fool critiques those who offer wisdom. He is far from a troll, he merely suggests that a bit of civility would do quite a bit of good.

So this has exactly what to do with Uncharted 2 and the 360? Nothing? That's what I thought. Take it to PM's if you really want to discuss this.

That's a bit of the change from your previous stance. If you really were trying to discuss uncharted, you would have done so earlier, but tracing your conversations back, all your posts contributed to calling people douchebags. Yet, now you would like to take it to PM's to avoid the gaze of others...Hypocrisy thy name is Mornelithe.

Excellent tracing skills:

Not that I want to be offensive here...rather, just something to gnaw on in your head. Everyone...and I mean everyone, has talked about the 'theoretical' power advantage the PS3 has. Everyone. It's also widely known that the PS3 is more difficult/completely different than PC architecture to program for. We've seen the 'theoretical' power, laid out on paper. The problem is, as everyone has noticed, nobody seems to be able to tap into that...which kind of turns it into a mockery, no?

But, what happens if someone actually figures out a way to make use of that power...and is able to apply it to a game. We're not just talking graphical acuity here, we're talking about things that go on behind the scenes, physics, lighting, particle effects, AI, environmental effects, immersive sound, objects on screen etc... all of those things as well. According to what we know about the consoles at this point in their cycle...hardware makeup and such...shouldn't the PS3 be able to handle some things the 360 just wouldn't be able to? And really, if anyone is going to do it, it's gonna be a 1st party, right?

Same thing applies to the 360 though. A Game that's designed specifically to exploit the hardware advantages it has over the PS3...shouldn't be able to be replicated on the PS3, right?

Douchebag, thy name is BalognaBaloney.

Probation, thy name is Mornelithe.

So no on can just take things with a grain of salt? They have to keep coming back and filling the forum with pointless arguments? No one can just be the better person and let things go?

 

[Bat Vader]

Also total BS from the dev, you could easily REWRITE the game for XBox with reduced scale, detail & size. Blatant imbecilic propaganda like this should end careers. Because as a business minded individual Im thinking him & his team arent very good coders if they cant port their title ? Why would developer lock itself onto one platform only unless they didnt have the skill base to transfer from one platform to the other.

So what you are saying is you could play a version of Uncharted with less audio, poorer graphics, and overall less content?
Isn't that defeating the point of being able to play the game? I hardly think that saying "The 360 could play the game if everything was worse" constitutes as playing the game, but more backs up what the dev was saying...
I didn't hear anyone say back in the day "Oh Halo: CE could totally be played on the PS2 if everything was made worse on it." Just a weird comment to make. If it can't play the game as it is, it can't play it, simple as that.

It has happened before though. A game was made worse to play on a different console or hand held device.