Neon Genesis Evangelion

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Eric the Orange said:
I like big red haired guy with no name. Ima call him fatty red head.
We could call him Neckbeard Orangutang

It's weird that evil fathers seem to be always the ones that give their sons everything. Like Lionel Luthor.

My Dad was the nicest guy in the world to everyone and looked like Pierce Brosnan but at home he turned into Jack Nicholson in The Shining. I didn't own a giant freezer unfortunately. I would take giant robots and hot roomates over that any day.
 

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You know where none of this matters and Shinji is a total badass?

Rebuild.

Everybody watch Rebuild. You will be amazed by what several million dollars and Hideaki Anno getting a consistent flow of anti-depressants and marital sex does to this show's psychology.
 

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K84 said:
I love the mechanical design in EVA.
And seeing the work WETA would've done for the live action version, makes me sad it did'nt come to be.
http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/neon_genesis_evangelion_concept_art_from_weta

The EVA's are the only reason this series deserves to be mentioned.
Well....and Gendo is pretty epic though...
But the thing that always bugged me was the so called "hotness" of Asuka and Rei.
They are 14 years old.....o_o
In anime, age is just a number and nothing more.

Example: This is Komoe Tsukuyomi from To Aru Majutsu no Index:

She's 23~ years old. No, there was no time travel or super power thing going on there. She's just like that naturally.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
K84 said:
I love the mechanical design in EVA.
And seeing the work WETA would've done for the live action version, makes me sad it did'nt come to be.
http://www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/neon_genesis_evangelion_concept_art_from_weta

The EVA's are the only reason this series deserves to be mentioned.
Well....and Gendo is pretty epic though...
But the thing that always bugged me was the so called "hotness" of Asuka and Rei.
They are 14 years old.....o_o
In anime, age is just a number and nothing more.

Example: This is Komoe Tsukuyomi from To Aru Majutsu no Index:

She's 23~ years old. No, there was no time travel or super power thing going on there. She's just like that naturally.
No she's like that do to a scientific procedure that stopped her physical aging at that of a kid. Science, not anime mumbo jumbo.
 

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NuclearShadow said:
Never watched the cartoon but the kid seems to need a nice slap along side the head. In-fact no forget that little bastard, a father should have a son worthy of being proud of. If I was in the fathers shoes I would just have another son one worthy of such spoils.
I think Shinji got "dumped" in the series after the Dummy Plug was completed
OT
Yes Shinji was a bit ungrateful during the show's run but he got allot more likeable in 2.2
 

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Today's strip was a nice break from the gaming jokes, because ripping in NGE never gets old. Poor Shinji, if only he knew the dark secrets of all the supposedly-awesome women & mechs Gendo is offering him. Or maybe Shinji read ahead on Wikipedia and knows what he's in for!

On a related note, did any of you guys watch the fan-dubbed movie EVANGELION: REDEATH?
 

K84

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Kopikatsu said:
K84 said:
But the thing that always bugged me was the so called "hotness" of Asuka and Rei.
They are 14 years old.....o_o
In anime, age is just a number and nothing more.

Example: This is Komoe Tsukuyomi from To Aru Majutsu no Index:

She's 23~ years old. No, there was no time travel or super power thing going on there. She's just like that naturally.
Komoe Tsukuyomi from To Aru Majutsu no Index......
I am, again, reminded, why, due to Moe-type BS like this, i started to dislike Anime...
But truthfully, i see your point.

Yet......this is a 23 year old that looks like a....disturbing little boyish girl.

Rei and Asuka are 14.
Now, Anime might say ages are nothing but numbers.
Common sense says 14 years = WRONG TO FAP TO.

But then again, in this day and age, common sense might be wibbly wobbly timey wimey...stuff..
I dunno, it always bothered me that there's this sexual theme in NGE, while most characters are around the 14 year area.
Must be old-fashioned, but i think it's wrong.
 

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Son: When I look at those women, I get a strange feeling. In my pants. Could it be ... hate?

Gendo: Wow. OK, son, we're way way way overdue for a talk.

Gendo looks at his watch.

Gendo: But I have a meeting in five minutes, so I'll make Ritsuko give you the talk instead.

Son: Dr. Akagi knows about the strange feeling in a boy's pants?

Gendo (trying and failing to hide a smile): Yes. Yes she does.
 

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Shinji is basically, no literally, a child soldier. I can easily see why he wouldn't want to pilot Eva.

It's like going to a child soldier in Africa and saying "How could you possibly hate your life? You get to play with cool guns and hang around all these normal, not completely psychopathic people. Really, you should love the guy that forced you in this position."

See what I mean? It's not like he's playing with a toy, he's fighting eldritch horrors that can easily kill him and everyone he knows. Rei is cold to him, Asuka is a ***** to him, and Misato doesn't understand him in the slightest.

And even with all that, he still is able to pull through and pilot the Eva.

This isn't an attack on the comic, mind you. I actually quite liked it. It's just that there are so many people complaining that Shinji is "a whiny emo kid". If your deadbeat father called you up, and the only reason was so that he could use you as a child soldier in the war, I don't think you'd be happy either. Shinji's got nothing to live for, yet he fights anyways.

Darth_Payn said:
On a related note, did any of you guys watch the fan-dubbed movie EVANGELION: REDEATH?
It is the greatest non-pornographic Evangelion related fanwork I've ever seen, which places it at around 30th overall.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Meh... everyone else has listed all of the downsides of being in the Evangelion-verse, so I'll restrain myself here. Besides, I think it's pretty clear that the comic is meant as a light-hearted poke at the source material, not a genuine criticism.

What I will say is that the reason Evangelion seems to go over a lot of people's heads (including a lot of people in this thread) is that it isn't a mecha show. It's a deconstruction of mecha shows. Complaining about how grim and depressing it is, is like complaining about how violent and nihilistic Watchmen is, or how empty and superficial The Great Gatsby is. Neon Genesis took the tropes that made shows like Gundam popular, and turned them on their head. Why would you need children to pilot giant war robots, over professionally trained military personnel? What would be the psychological ramifications of forcing children to fight for you? Is it really that different from warlords using child soldiers in Africa? How would people deal with the impending apocalypse from an extraterrestrial, god-like threat?

In particular, I've never understood all the bashing that Shinji gets. He is a fourteen year old boy, pretty much forced into circumstances beyond his control, where he is quite literally all that stands between humanity and outright extinction. He's spent his entire life devoid of any parental love or affection, he lives and works with an entire company of dysfunctional neurotics, his own father sees him as nothing more than a pawn to be used and discarded, and he is regularly forced into situations where he is called upon to kill or take out his own friends.

I would not want to meet the person who can get through all that a well adjusted individual. That would be more than any adult could handle. To expect a fourteen year old boy to go through all that with an upbeat smile and a can-do attitude is to miss what Evangelion was about in the first place.
Pretty much this whole thing. I'll add that I identified with him pretty easily when I first watched the show (at around 14, no less). As for the scene that has half of the thread shaking their heads in disgust, it's mainly there to show just how utterly f***ed up his head is by that point.
 

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"By the way the endings are all bullshit, don't pretend that you understood the ending."

I might as well post the entire video...

 

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TheTygre said:
You know where none of this matters and Shinji is a total badass?

Rebuild.

Everybody watch Rebuild. You will be amazed by what several million dollars and Hideaki Anno getting a consistent flow of anti-depressants and marital sex does to this show's psychology.
I actually don't like the story of Rebuild too much. It's basically the original run of Evangelion but with significantly less character development.

The action though. Oh man, the action. They drew the angels in full 3D CGI for the action scenes, and it is beautiful.

And the ending of 2 really got me hyped for 3.