New Botnet Is "Practically Indestructible"

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Anaklusmos

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Well I think I should be safe, I only ever go on The Escapist, Twitter, Facebook and Youtube. Even though I know this I'm still running two scans right now... Damn you internet!
 

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voorhees123 said:
Why cant they make a bot that also destroys every bit of malware, spyware, trojans and all that other crap online that infects computers. That would be awesome.
If all the bot did was use my computer for spam now and then, I'd be just about willing to have it on my system if it protected me from all the other malware out there. Almost.
 

grigjd3

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So the solution to this is a bootdisk. It's a fairly old concept actually. I would make them all the time. One could be put on a usb stick.
 

Space Jawa

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I'm not a computer wiz in any sense of the word, so understand that my understanding of such things is trivial, but wouldn't the solution to a problem like this be to install an anti-virus or counter program that also installs itself in the computer's boot record, or something like that?
 

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Space Jawa said:
I'm not a computer wiz in any sense of the word, so understand that my understanding of such things is trivial, but wouldn't the solution to a problem like this be to install an anti-virus or counter program that also installs itself in the computer's boot record, or something like that?
Yeah, basically, but it would actually have to check the boot record too... And im not sure windows would let the antivirus be installed in the boot record, much less go digging around in there.
 

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Wow the first half of this made me feel dumb. :( Wut?!

Of course, scrolling through the comments to get to the reply box I see a bunch of people shouting their love for their macs. Happens every time a site posts something about a nasty pc virus. Maybe some day people will realize no one cares. -.-;

I wonder if labeling it 'indestructible" is their way of mind games to get more people to actively work on bringing it down to prove that statement wrong.
 

Twilight_guy

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Aren't there already viruses that infect the master boot record? Eh, whatever.

The title of this article made me think of the Titanic. "Indestructible" things tend to be destroyed quiet often ironically.
 

Olrod

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If only people could make actual anti-virus and anti-malware software as ingenious and effective as these botnets... *le sigh*
 

balanovich

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This also means that formatting your computer, a process that restores every Windows component to its most basic state, has no effect on Top Bot.
Hum... no. Formatting erases everything, including the boot record and windows You're talking about restoring or re-installing windows.
 

SirCannonFodder

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Wait, so it's a virus that attacks other viruses to keep its own criminal nature hidden? It's the freaking Dexter Morgan of computer viruses :D
 

intheweeds

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could this be solved by re-installing your motherboard BIOS software/drivers at the same time you re-install windows after a format? I am just curious. If this is the case, my 'every few months' computer cleaning just earned a new step.

I'm really asking if someone has the answer, please respond. :)
 

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icame said:
Shared though P2P program's eh? Good thing I don't pirate things then. (Yes I am aware not all use of P2P is for piracy. Just most of it.)
yeah same here...tough it must suck being the people who do right about now...
 

crazeekamikazee

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would I be "safer" with things like treatfire and avarst? they both got real time scanning and might not give a chance to install, my firewall(zone alarm)out going traffic security is on high and in going is on mid.

When my computer idle I have a minimal level of internet traffic but there is a reading never the less.
 

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Noelveiga said:
I was going to say just this. They put a virus in the MBR. Whoop-de-doo, welcome to 1991.

Now, a virus with an antivirus on it so that the host won't start amping up security and accidentally kill the bug? That's clever.

Also, I'm wondering what's so hard about removing this. Maybe noticing it is difficult, but I was under the impression that writing to the MBR was kind of... easy these days. Hell, Wubi will overwrite the hell out of Windows' boot software without even requiring a reboot. If you know the thing is in there it can't be that hard to remove it. Worst case scenario you have to go back to old 90s antivirus tactics and boot out of a different device like a DVD or a pendrive, unless I'm misunderstanding what this thing actually does...
Ya I wound up reading that whole article before going to bed last night. Turns out that infecting the MBR is like .. the LEAST impressive thing about it. Aside from being a new varient of the notorious TDSS hijacker (ugh .. i hate them), it prevents other malware from operating on your system so that your system runs smoothly ..... until it hits you with outs own "lock-out" fake Anti-virus crap.

The most important thing however, if I'm understanding correctly, is it is capable of sending encrypted messages via P2P programs which basically allows anyone on BitTorrent with the know-how/client software to operate one of these things control over your computer. I may be wrong on that last part but I think thats what the article was saying, somebody correct me.

I think the most impressive thing about the virus is actually its "stealthiness" than "indestructiblility". The title should read "New Botnet that is practically invisible".
 

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The Gentleman said:
Didn't they say that about the Death Star? Can we all agree that "indestructible" is an invitation to be proven wrong...
You know, whenever I hear the words "virtually indestructable", my first thought is "challenge accepted".
 

Babitz

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This gave me an e-boner. This is just brilliant. I wish I had my own super botnet.
 

The Lugz

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Platypus540 said:
And now I am extra happy that I have a Mac.
i love how mac owners believe that, it makes me smile :)
you realize pc users get as few viruses as you do, right?
i've never had one on 6 pc's ive owned because i'm not stupid enough to click on anything that's obviously dodgy

would you like a list of some mac viruses?
enjoy:
http://www.iantivirus.com/threats/

but macs don't have viruses!! give me a break >.>