New Console Generation Brings Fear

[bobmus]

Seeing as how so many devs WANT:
Always on DRM
Online Passes
DLC that should have been in the damn game
Digital only distribution - with no price cut to match
ect
ect

I'll probably end up skipping the Xbox720/PS4/WiiU2 if that crap happens.

Gaming is a HOBBY, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be treated like a criminal by companies that want MY money.

Screw them.

Your cynicism impresses me, but I expect I'll end up caving and buying another console eventually.

However, I mainly commented here to tell you that it's 'etc', not ect - remember that it's short for etcetera (from the latin "et cetera", meaning 'and the rest')

 

[laserwulf]

If indie games are where it's at, then Microsoft and Sony don't need new consoles. They need to pull their heads out of their fourth points of contact and make XBL/PSN more indie-friendly. 2/3 of the pages on the 360 UI have ads, and plenty of them are for non-game media like movies. The Indie section is hidden away, and it's currently clogged with mostly garbage and/or blatant imitations of successful games. Rework the payment structure to further incentivize devs to sell games other than just on Steam, and promote the heck out of truly quality indie titles. As long as MS and Sony are picky about the highest quality games getting front-page marketing (not just the games with the most downloads), such a shining pedestal for devs to compete for could raise the overall bar of quality over time.

The segregation of Indies/Minis doesn't help to encourage high quality, either. On Steam, $5 titles are displayed right next to the latest $60 release. Currently the Indy and Minis sections of XBL/PSN translate to "most likely not even worth the $1-2 price". It was there that I found Steam-front-pager Beat Hazard among multiple Minecraft clones and Baby Maker Extreme. True gems get buried, and turds flourish as long as they're not polished any less than the ones surrounding them. Let's see how many Trials imitations are posted after they'd have to compete right next to the real thing... :-}

 

[Something Amyss]

Hopefully the latter, if they've learned from that kinect thing that no physical feedback kills any immersion for 99.9% of people.

Yes, which is especially good to note given the lack of immersive games before physical feedback was invented.

 

[AgentCooper]

I don't see indie games a make or break thing. But, I do see the new innovations and new game play ideas heading that way.

 

[Eikoandmog]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

 

[elvor0]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

 

[Eikoandmog]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

Hm, couldn't find it on the Australian dashboard but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
(Oddly appropriate captcha: Make a bee-line.)

 

[Mr. Omega]

*Comes into thread expecting PC Gaming circle jerk* Never change, PC Gamers...

But honestly, the 360 and PS3 haven't really given me much incentive to get their successors. And the rumors are just making me feel stronger about that. Between the WiiU and just getting an upgraded laptop I plan on getting in the upcoming months, I won't need either.

 

[Mauso88]

Instead of buying the next console generation, I'll probably spend my money making sure my PC is up to spec.

 

[elvor0]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

Hm, couldn't find it on the Australian dashboard but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
(Oddly appropriate captcha: Make a bee-line.)

Yeah it's hidden among sub catagories, I remember finding it once, but no luck any other time.

 

[Epona]

I don't think I am interested in the next console gen. I don't even think I am interested in gaming on PC. Lately, it's all handhelds and I can't even bring myself to play a console or PC game.

I do love console games playable on handhelds though.

 

[Waaghpowa]

At least for a week or so until the next new graphics card comes out.

Too late, that was today =D

GTX 680 ^_^

Too bad they use PCIe 3.0, I would need to replace a whole board. Just gonna wait for the 500's drop in price and snatch 2 580's or 590's.

 

[ResonanceSD]

At least for a week or so until the next new graphics card comes out.

Too late, that was today =D

GTX 680 ^_^

Too bad they use PCIe 3.0, I would need to replace a whole board. Just gonna wait for the 500's drop in price and snatch 2 580's or 590's.

I got two GTX 580's =D $1000 in two pieces of awesome.


Z-series motherboards coming out soon, when IB launches, it's RIG TIME. For someone else.

 

[gyroscopeboy]

I think a lot of the mid range devs might be closed down by then..its already happening.

Also, even as a dedicated console guy, unless the hardware is going to provide graphics better than the current PC gen..im not that interested.

 

[Waaghpowa]

I got two GTX 580's =D $1000 in two pieces of awesome.


Z-series motherboards coming out soon, when IB launches, it's RIG TIME. For someone else.

I'll wait until I'm not living on student loans before I start spending that kind of money or getting Ivy bridge intel cpu's....which I want badly.