New Console Generation Brings Fear

[AgentCooper]

I don't see indie games a make or break thing. But, I do see the new innovations and new game play ideas heading that way.

 

[Eikoandmog]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

 

[elvor0]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

 

[Eikoandmog]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

Hm, couldn't find it on the Australian dashboard but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
(Oddly appropriate captcha: Make a bee-line.)

 

[Mr. Omega]

*Comes into thread expecting PC Gaming circle jerk* Never change, PC Gamers...

But honestly, the 360 and PS3 haven't really given me much incentive to get their successors. And the rumors are just making me feel stronger about that. Between the WiiU and just getting an upgraded laptop I plan on getting in the upcoming months, I won't need either.

 

[Mauso88]

Instead of buying the next console generation, I'll probably spend my money making sure my PC is up to spec.

 

[elvor0]

One pertinent example is Cthulhu Saves The World, which managed to sell more in one week on Steam than it did in one year on the Xbox Live Indie Marketplace.

I'd argue that this might be due to the Indie marketplace being unavailable outside NA.

It's there in the UK, I dunno if it's different in NA but in the UK it's fucking impossible to find, but it is there.

Hm, couldn't find it on the Australian dashboard but maybe I didn't look hard enough.
(Oddly appropriate captcha: Make a bee-line.)

Yeah it's hidden among sub catagories, I remember finding it once, but no luck any other time.

 

[Epona]

I don't think I am interested in the next console gen. I don't even think I am interested in gaming on PC. Lately, it's all handhelds and I can't even bring myself to play a console or PC game.

I do love console games playable on handhelds though.

 

[Waaghpowa]

At least for a week or so until the next new graphics card comes out.

Too late, that was today =D

GTX 680 ^_^

Too bad they use PCIe 3.0, I would need to replace a whole board. Just gonna wait for the 500's drop in price and snatch 2 580's or 590's.

 

[ResonanceSD]

At least for a week or so until the next new graphics card comes out.

Too late, that was today =D

GTX 680 ^_^

Too bad they use PCIe 3.0, I would need to replace a whole board. Just gonna wait for the 500's drop in price and snatch 2 580's or 590's.

I got two GTX 580's =D $1000 in two pieces of awesome.


Z-series motherboards coming out soon, when IB launches, it's RIG TIME. For someone else.

 

[gyroscopeboy]

I think a lot of the mid range devs might be closed down by then..its already happening.

Also, even as a dedicated console guy, unless the hardware is going to provide graphics better than the current PC gen..im not that interested.

 

[Waaghpowa]

I got two GTX 580's =D $1000 in two pieces of awesome.


Z-series motherboards coming out soon, when IB launches, it's RIG TIME. For someone else.

I'll wait until I'm not living on student loans before I start spending that kind of money or getting Ivy bridge intel cpu's....which I want badly.

 

[ResonanceSD]

My worry is about what was enunciated at the beginning of the article: the fact that publishers are gonna take even less risks. They're already cutting off and dumbing down the market a lot as of now. I can't see that with a good eye

Yet another reason for PC gaming =D

"Our market isn't *completely* full of homogenized crap"
-unlikely marketing tag for Steam

Battle Field 3, CoD, Skyrim, Fable

All these are on computer as well. It's not the tool we use that lowers the quality. It's Us being dumb for buying it.

I loled when I saw Skyrim alongside BF3 and MW3. Nice try. Of those, I've only bought Skyrim. Nothing about it seems dumbed down. It's more functional than Oblivion, sure, not dumbed down.

 

[Therumancer]

I think this is kind of sad actually. There is no real reason for development costs to go up with the new hardware. With most of the cost in developing games going to human resources this seems like the industry basically saying that it wants a pay hike (again) and to pass it down to the consumers and a new console generation is a good time to do that. Sure it's new hardware, but the graphics guys are still working all day making graphics... only now they are saying they are going to want more money when the product is already $60 plus DLC costs.

To me it seems like a subtle way of trying to plant the idea of an upcoming hike in game prices somehow being nessicary.

That's my thoughts at any rate.

 

[Solemn Marth]

I'm only scared because of what the cost will be.
As for advancement in technology im sure it will be great for graphics and game play and video games period.

 

[Tanakh]

I loled when I saw Skyrim alongside BF3 and MW3. Nice try. Of those, I've only bought Skyrim. Nothing about it seems dumbed down. It's more functional than Oblivion, sure, not dumbed down.

BF 3 is actually a great game if you are into FPS PvP; hardcore conquest mode FTW. Also, if anything else BF 3 was a very important PC game for pushing current graphic cards, i remember the good ol days when that was the norm of AAA PC releases.

 

[The Wooster]

I think this is kind of sad actually. There is no real reason for development costs to go up with the new hardware. With most of the cost in developing games going to human resources this seems like the industry basically saying that it wants a pay hike (again) and to pass it down to the consumers and a new console generation is a good time to do that. Sure it's new hardware, but the graphics guys are still working all day making graphics... only now they are saying they are going to want more money when the product is already $60 plus DLC costs.

To me it seems like a subtle way of trying to plant the idea of an upcoming hike in game prices somehow being nessicary.

That's my thoughts at any rate.

Better hardware means higher graphical fidelity. Higher graphical fidelity means more work. It's simple and true.

 

[Tanakh]

If you still think it hasn't been dumbed down then you're too much of a fan and allowing it to screw with your perception of the game.

Ohh, the old either you agree with my subjective perceptions or you are a stupid argument, never gets old.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

May the weak perish swiftly.
http://www.dabok.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/wii_1.jpg

Obvious troll is extremely obvious.

OT: This has a wait and see feel to me. Could it go wrong?: yes. Will it?: Only God knows.

Not really trolling The Wii needs to go away in concept. Never again should a company base their product on a single gimmicky function and then let quality control of games plummet to appease a target demographic. A demographic that has been shown to not be repeat customers.

 

[ResonanceSD]

My worry is about what was enunciated at the beginning of the article: the fact that publishers are gonna take even less risks. They're already cutting off and dumbing down the market a lot as of now. I can't see that with a good eye

Yet another reason for PC gaming =D

"Our market isn't *completely* full of homogenized crap"
-unlikely marketing tag for Steam

Battle Field 3, CoD, Skyrim, Fable

All these are on computer as well. It's not the tool we use that lowers the quality. It's Us being dumb for buying it.

I loled when I saw Skyrim alongside BF3 and MW3. Nice try. Of those, I've only bought Skyrim. Nothing about it seems dumbed down. It's more functional than Oblivion, sure, not dumbed down.

Skyrim is more functional sure. But in terms of customization it is. Freedom also. You are limited to X amount of spells and can't create any new ones. Weapon "Crafting" Though just introduced is a simple mathematical calculation. 4 pieces of armor for your entire body. Removed many of the past skills for a FPS perk tree. Play Morrowind. Then play Oblivion. Then play skyrim. If you still think it hasn't been dumbed down then you're too much of a fan and allowing it to screw with your perception of the game.

Amazing, the Morrowind argument comes out again. Morrowind's wasn't nearly as good as Skyrim's, and I've played since Arena. "Less complex" isn't the same as "dumbed down" and the faster you accept and understand that, the happier you'll be. The fact that there's more complexity to achieve the same thing doesn't make something better.