New Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 Trailer Titillates

[BX3]

gg marketing department.

Salt mining. The technique is called salt mining. It was also used to great effect by a company called Protein World during their 'Are you beach body ready?' advertising campaign. Not to mention every single last social justice warrior and anti social justice warrior electronic beggar currently polluting the internet with their ideologically-driven oratorical masturbation.

"Salt mining?"... Wow. That is a fantastic name.

Hey, I'm all for it. Gotta put all the forced memes and infighting to SOME good use.

 

[stormtrooper9091]

hehe, titillating

sadly, I'm gonna skip this since no console here, otherwise I might have taken it from someone for a spin

 

[LazyAza]

What I don't get is why this game isn't just coming to PC where it would potentially get millions of purchases compared to the piddly few thousand it'll receive on ps4 which is going to be even further reduced due to the lack of a western release.

 

[Lightknight]

Haha, it's a running joke at this point.

I'm just waiting to see when they make this VR compatible and eventually drop the pretense of them wearing clothes and not eating bananas...

Probably never with the 2nd one. I should know, I'm a huge Senran Kagura fan. Japan is a walking talking paradox in the game world. They're responsible for some of the most risque and sexually cartoonish (or cartoonishly sexy?) games on the market, and yet if one actual nipple is shown, it might as well have "sales failure" slapped right on the box for how many places they'd be able to sell it in.

All they really have to do is release the dev tools like Bethesda does... modders the world round will take it from there and they don't even have to acknowledge them as anything they've produced.

*shudders*

 

[Chriss_m]

The series nobody gave a crap about since, the PS2(?), is coming back.

Because of a fake controversy for controversy sake.

gg marketing department.

What was the fake controversy?

The game isn't being sold in the West and will only be available in Japan and South East Asia. One of Koei-Tecmo's community managers made a Facebook post that it wasn't being localized in the West for fear of feminist backlash. Koei-Tecmo did later retract that statement and gave out a standard PR blurb instead. Whether the game not being localized is due to it being projected to not sell enough in the West or due to feminists creating an environment of fear where Japanese developers have decided to not localize anything risque due to potential backlash is up to you. PlayAsia, an importer of Japanese games and other products did capitalize on this whole kerfuffle by offering imports to the West of the South East Asia version of the game, which does include English translations of the menus and UI.

Thanks for the round up. Sorry if I misled, I was very familiar with the intricacies of this particular story - I was just using rhetoric to draw out the point that there is no false controversy. There is absolutely a substantive basis for this controversy, which has not been misrepresented. So I was severely objecting to the original poster's assertion. On this basis:

A Koei employee confirmed that this was due to "cultural sensitivies".

This is in line with other censorship we have seen in recent months, which suggests that there has been a regressive, illiberal culture shift which does indeed have feminist agitators and the gaming press as its very root.

Play Asia capitalise on the issue, but in doing so, support gamers and the right for developers to openly express themselves without fear of moral condemnation.

Social Justice Lunatics attempt to deflect from the result of their authoritarianism by concocting a conspiracy theory that this is all just a PR stunt to boost interest in the game.

When it becomes clear that this is not the case, they then take to attacking Play Asia for daring to side with the developers, and more so, begin suggesting that the Koei staff is a liar and that the real, super secret reason that the game isn't being released in the west is because of sales figures. This is completely and utterly dispelled by the available sales figures of the series, which shows the games sell better in the west.

Shuhei Yushida effectively confirms that Japanese developers now view the west as if it were the Middle East.

So yes. A very real controversy.

 

[Chriss_m]

gg marketing department.

Salt mining. The technique is called salt mining. It was also used to great effect by a company called Protein World during their 'Are you beach body ready?' advertising campaign. Not to mention every single last social justice warrior and anti social justice warrior electronic beggar currently polluting the internet with their ideologically-driven oratorical masturbation.

This 'both sides are as bad as the other' and these conspiracy theories that companies are devising these ingenious plans, are beyond tedious.

What happens is that a company does something that the new moral majority, third wave feminists (formerly the religious right) don't like. The company is inundated with abuse, threats and outright calls for the company to boycotted and ruined.

This is typically the part where the company will be terrified and beaten into acquiescing, providing an unqualified and full apology, whilst begging not to be destroyed.

Lately however, some companies have had the balls to say 'Actually, no. Fuck you and your morality policing - we won't be bullied by sanctimonious zealots, we've done nothing wrong'. And they've found people willing to stand up for those principles.

Then come the armchair analysts, such as yourself, who have a sort of vague interest in the matter whilst tutting and rolling your eyes. But fortunately for us, you guys have enough interest to tell us 'They're all as bad as each other! It's all a mess!'

Such insight! Such a meticulous break down of the situation! Or not. You're entitled to your opinion, but you should try and make it informed.

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

Their faces have all the lack of expression and uncanniness of a blow up doll, but I guess they're marketing to the same audience.
Really though I can't put my finger on what it is, but it's bothering me more than the obvious but not so obvious selling factor of the series.

What's happening with their faces in comparison to their bodies? Is it because the bodies are supposed to be more realistic, while the faces have a more anime-esc style them? What's going on here? I don't understand.

Team Ninja needs to stop putting all their budget into perfecting jiggle physics and hire some better modelers or at least stylistically consistent ones, it might not happen often, but sometimes the camera pans higher than the boobs.

 

[BX3]

Haha, it's a running joke at this point.

I'm just waiting to see when they make this VR compatible and eventually drop the pretense of them wearing clothes and not eating bananas...

Probably never with the 2nd one. I should know, I'm a huge Senran Kagura fan. Japan is a walking talking paradox in the game world. They're responsible for some of the most risque and sexually cartoonish (or cartoonishly sexy?) games on the market, and yet if one actual nipple is shown, it might as well have "sales failure" slapped right on the box for how many places they'd be able to sell it in.

All they really have to do is release the dev tools like Bethesda does... modders the world round will take it from there and they don't even have to acknowledge them as anything they've produced.

*shudders*

Funny ya mention that... Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus is coming out on PC this summer.

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/Evil-Laugh-reaction-gifs.gif?gs=a

Let's hope it's not as much of a shitty and un-optimized mess as DOA: Last Round.

What's happening with their faces in comparison to their bodies? Is it because the bodies are supposed to be more realistic, while the faces have a more anime-esc style them? What's going on here? I don't understand.

Team Ninja needs to stop putting all their budget into perfecting jiggle physics and hire some better modelers or at least stylistically consistent ones, it might not happen often, but sometimes the camera pans higher than the boobs.

Yyyeeeah, that's bothering me too. None of the characters, save Maria, even look like themselves. That picture of Ayane on the bed straight up pisses me off with how bizarre and OoC her features are.

 

[Paragon Fury]

EDIT: I've decide to move this somewhere else because its kind of off-topic here.

 

[EternallyBored]

Haha, it's a running joke at this point.

I'm just waiting to see when they make this VR compatible and eventually drop the pretense of them wearing clothes and not eating bananas...

Probably never with the 2nd one. I should know, I'm a huge Senran Kagura fan. Japan is a walking talking paradox in the game world. They're responsible for some of the most risque and sexually cartoonish (or cartoonishly sexy?) games on the market, and yet if one actual nipple is shown, it might as well have "sales failure" slapped right on the box for how many places they'd be able to sell it in.

All they really have to do is release the dev tools like Bethesda does... modders the world round will take it from there and they don't even have to acknowledge them as anything they've produced.

*shudders*

Considering the weird ghetto that Japanese PC games are only just now trying to break out of, it will probably be years before we see something on the level of Bethesda mod tools in a Japanese game. Even now most of those pc ports we are getting of Japanese games seems to be due to the appeal of cheaply exporting the game to the West without dealing with physical media. Something like Xenoblade X with Bethesda tools or a Fire Emblem game with XCom 2's script source code tools would be great for a lot more than just plausible deniability on the inevitable nude mods. Little more than a pipe dream at this point though, consoles would have to make modding possible or PC gaming would have to become a much more direct market for Japanese devs before something like that would have even a chance of happening.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

So it's literally just a soft core porn game then?

Whelp, looks like I won't have to wait around for reviews about the mini-games to not worry about putting money away.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Their faces have all the lack of expression and uncanniness of a blow up doll, but I guess they're marketing to the same audience.
Really though I can't put my finger on what it is, but it's bothering me more than the obvious but not so obvious selling factor of the series.

What's happening with their faces in comparison to their bodies? Is it because the bodies are supposed to be more realistic, while the faces have a more anime-esc style them? What's going on here? I don't understand.

Team Ninja needs to stop putting all their budget into perfecting jiggle physics and hire some better modelers or at least stylistically consistent ones, it might not happen often, but sometimes the camera pans higher than the boobs.

Yeah.

I could sort of see the skeezy appeal of this game if the characters didn't look like plastic femdroids. It's like Team Ninja is still stuck in the PS1 era, and just upped the polygon count each new generation and nothing else.

 

[Chriss_m]

begin suggesting that the Koei staff is a liar

Which is worse than suggesting that Koei's official statement on the situation and the producer (who said long before that community manager said anything that the game wasn't being localised due to demand) is also a liar.

So we've got a situation where the official statements of the company and the lead producer contradict one employee, who isn't even on the dev team, and they are the lies? So you believe everyone at Koei is lying and then call others conspiracy theorists?

and that the real, super secret reason that the game isn't being released in the west is because of sales figures.

Super secret? Did you miss the interview from months before the community manager opened his mouth? You know, the one where the lead producer said the game wasn't being localised due to projected sales not justifying it?

But yet! Shockingly! It is available in English!

But hey! Maybe you're right about the press release, which are notoriously sanitised, in spite of the series' sale figures and in spite of the complete translation. So link the interview you're talking about so we can build a chronology and really explore your version of events.

 

[Chriss_m]

So it's literally just a soft core porn game then?

Whelp, looks like I won't have to wait around for reviews about the mini-games to not worry about putting money away.

Same. Softcore porn just frustrates me. I prefer mine hardcore and free.

 

[Travis Fischer]

Their faces have all the lack of expression and uncanniness of a blow up doll, but I guess they're marketing to the same audience.
Really though I can't put my finger on what it is, but it's bothering me more than the obvious but not so obvious selling factor of the series.

What's happening with their faces in comparison to their bodies? Is it because the bodies are supposed to be more realistic, while the faces have a more anime-esc style them? What's going on here? I don't understand.

Team Ninja needs to stop putting all their budget into perfecting jiggle physics and hire some better modelers or at least stylistically consistent ones, it might not happen often, but sometimes the camera pans higher than the boobs.

Faces?

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Anyone remember this?

Yep, those are some tig ole bitties alright. I mean, tassive mitts. I mean, brumongous heasteses. I mean just look at those glammary mands.

What can I say, sex sells.

 

[crimsonspear4D]

At this point people should just learn how to use SourceFilmMaker or MMD, get a bunch of DoA models, make a... parody show or something, and just have a fucking wank. Because Tecmo/Koei and other cheesecake factories are not gonna learn if they can just keep shilling crap like this with little to no effort at all devoted to gameplay or anything else.

This whole - I wouldn't call it gaming pride - fake censorship/localization controversy drama sounds exactly like the of crap publishers will try to exploit to make money off people supporting this bullshit out of... honor or something. I mean, their is some stuff I can give Japanese games, but with this and Fatal Frame; there's a limit with how much I can take.

 

[mysecondlife]

Even if I could get aroused by this, the anime girl voice cancels it out.