New Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 Trailer Titillates

C14N

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Chriss_m said:
One of those naive saps, of course, being the President of Sony. Or is he in on the conspiracy, too? I forget how the theory goes. And were Street Fighter, Xenoblade, Bravely Default, etc, also censored just to give Koei a nice little backdrop for this grand theatre? Also, no one said it's liberal censorship. No one with any sense of politics believes Anita Sarkeesian, et al, are liberals. In fact, she's openly disparaged liberal feminism.

Maybe it's time to just accept that Sarkeesian won. She, with the unending support of the gaming press, have managed to regress our culture into a moral panic about sex.

Can you link to the interview in which it is said they're not going to localise it due to sales, so we can establish a chronology?
What conspiracy are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here. They didn't bother with a western release because they weren't expecting it to sell well. There's no other reason for doing it. What do you think they were afraid of? That they would get their feelings hurt by some game reviews calling it creepy? That Anita would make a tweet calling it super duper sexist? They weren't about to let some huge pot of money they were about to make on the sales of a game they've already finished go down the drain because they were afraid of getting their feelings hurt. They just figured that they could slap a quick English translation on and sell it on the import market to anyone who really does want it.

Play Asia on the other hand, were clearly salt mining and capitalising on anti-SJW outrage. They knew that this game would get a lot more attention if they made sure to market how mad much those nefarious social justice warriors would be if you bought this game from them. Suddenly, people who never really cared about it before were extolling it as a symbol of free speech. Buying a game is now a statement that you're standing up to your feminist oppressors like Spartacus standing up to the Romans. I mean, in reality only the really devoted will drop that kind of money on it, but they're at least going to get a few more sales and it's not like they're really going to lose many in the process since their audience are not exactly the type who disapprove of Japanese sex culture.
 

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RJ 17 said:
Pyrian said:
And no volleyball whatsoever in this trailer.
If you're playing volleyball in this game then you're doing it wrong.
That's weird. So many defenders of the game seem to think that it's just an innocent volleyball game.
To be quite honest: I actually did enjoy the volleyball in the previous title. I also enjoyed the casino mini-games and such. The eye-candy was just a bonus. :p

With this game, though, with its peeping-tom and wardrobe malfunction mechanics...yeah, it seems like the focus has taken a massive shift in favor of being purely fan-service.
 

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C14N said:
Chriss_m said:
One of those naive saps, of course, being the President of Sony. Or is he in on the conspiracy, too? I forget how the theory goes. And were Street Fighter, Xenoblade, Bravely Default, etc, also censored just to give Koei a nice little backdrop for this grand theatre? Also, no one said it's liberal censorship. No one with any sense of politics believes Anita Sarkeesian, et al, are liberals. In fact, she's openly disparaged liberal feminism.

Maybe it's time to just accept that Sarkeesian won. She, with the unending support of the gaming press, have managed to regress our culture into a moral panic about sex.

Can you link to the interview in which it is said they're not going to localise it due to sales, so we can establish a chronology?
What conspiracy are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here. They didn't bother with a western release because they weren't expecting it to sell well. There's no other reason for doing it. What do you think they were afraid of? That they would get their feelings hurt by some game reviews calling it creepy? That Anita would make a tweet calling it super duper sexist? They weren't about to let some huge pot of money they were about to make on the sales of a game they've already finished go down the drain because they were afraid of getting their feelings hurt. They just figured that they could slap a quick English translation on and sell it on the import market to anyone who really does want it.

Play Asia on the other hand, were clearly salt mining and capitalising on anti-SJW outrage. They knew that this game would get a lot more attention if they made sure to market how mad much those nefarious social justice warriors would be if you bought this game from them. Suddenly, people who never really cared about it before were extolling it as a symbol of free speech. Buying a game is now a statement that you're standing up to your feminist oppressors like Spartacus standing up to the Romans. I mean, in reality only the really devoted will drop that kind of money on it, but they're at least going to get a few more sales and it's not like they're really going to lose many in the process since their audience are not exactly the type who disapprove of Japanese sex culture.
Your argument would be more convincing if the sales figures for a game for the game were actually bad, or if a prior installment hadn't been released on a console almost exclusively bought in the West. Or, you know, if other developers weren't cutting any content which could even be construed as sexual out of their games.

So yes, much like the TEAM NINJA employee said, it was due to 'cultural sensitivities' and the puritanical, pearl clutching games press.

Play Asia took advantage of the situation to the delight of many Western gamers. Are we supposed to think that was a bad thing? Also, I'm not sure I'd consider a game which could maybe be described as softcore pornography as Japanese sex culture. You'll find the West still indulges in sexuality when Anita's not looking.
 

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So yes, much like the TEAM NINJA employee said, it was due to 'cultural sensitivities' and the puritanical, pearl clutching games press.
You're completely ignoring the point I made. What were they afraid would happen if they released it? That the Anita cabal would gasp so hard that they would blow all the copies off the shelves and into a landfill? What negative consequences were so terrible that they would turn down the apparently lucrative sales opportunity of bringing this game to the west?

Chriss_m said:
Play Asia took advantage of the situation to the delight of many Western gamers. Are we supposed to think that was a bad thing? Also, I'm not sure I'd consider a game which could maybe be described as softcore pornography as Japanese sex culture. You'll find the West still indulges in sexuality when Anita's not looking.
Yeah, I would say cynically making up some shit to sell a few games is not particularly admirable. I'd have zero qualm with Play-Asia selling the game and posting "We're selling this because it's not getting a western release" but that wasn't enough, they had to find a nebulous strawman to pin the blame on. Nobody was demanding the game not be released or petitioned for it to be banned. There was no movement at all to stop the game from coming out. The worst thing that ever happened to this series was that it got bad reviews and mockery from the press.

That people in the west like porn too has nothing to do with it. The point is that it's indulged in very different ways. Our porn is kept way further out of reach of the rest of culture and considered much more taboo, regardless of how popular it is. Looking at the trailer for this game and some footage, it also looks like the voyeurism aspect (by which I mean just staring at boobs instead of actually doing anything) is really a lot stronger than in the previous entries, especially in the second half of the trailer and that comes off much creepier to most people here than there.