New Fire Emblem Game Coming to 3DS

[Eclipse Dragon]

I've seen enough, how soon would you like my money Nintendo?

If it's remotely like any other game in the series, particularly Awakening and based on what little they've shown here, it is, I'm sure I'll enjoy it very much.

Do you remember Shadow Dragon?

Every game in the series except for Shadow Dragon and we'll be good. Can't believe that Ninty aactually released that dumbed down piece of garbage.

[sub][sub][sub]I liked Shadow Dragon...[/sub][/sub][/sub]
Shadow Dragon had a lot of blaring issues, I agree, however, it is a remake of the original game, and typically when that happens, the result is kind of vanilla. I enjoyed seeing a game released in the west that actually features Marth. Shadow Dragon also takes place in the same world as Awakening, so it was fun playing it, then seeing how the world evolved into what it is in Awakening.

I also liked seeing the characters that inspired the series' tropes. The "Jagen" (the pre-promoted paladin you always get at the beginning of the game that becomes lackluster by the end), the "Merric" (the very talented wind mage who is usually a good friend of the hero and is pretty awesome if only you put the work in). Cain and Abel, the first red cavalier and green cavalier.

Of course it would have been great if they had done more with it, but vanilla is vanilla and we're lucky we at least got completely redone graphics. All that being said, they did also remake Fire Emblem #2 (Mystery of the Emblem) which is a sequel to Fire Emblem #1 and it fixed pretty much all of the biggest issues people had with Shadow Dragon and even paved the way for Awakening, introducing your own custom unit as the player character... and Nintendo never bothered to localize it ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

I didn't find Shadow Dragon that easy... Or maybe it's just the fact there's so many goddamn characters that I got overwhelmed without knowing which ones were worth it or not. Also there was barely any plot, which was really what pushed me away from it. I wonder if the second DS game is better, but then again, Nintendo never bothered to release in englsh.

You can pretty much just completely bench the characters you don't like and stick with the ones you do, they all turn out halfway decent by the end and you can't really screw yourself in that aspect. Marth is leading an army, unlike say, Ike who is just leading a band of mercenaries. I think the sheer amount of characters was meant to try and convey that (although I do prefer the smaller, more personal, more developed group).

Also yeah, the second game was much better.

 

[Trude]

If this evolves into an exclusive for the new 3DS, I am going to punch someone.

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

The first fire emblem released in the GBA had a custom character representing the player as well, but given how little we actually did as said character(no lines, no interaction beyond bare minimum) it wasn't that great. Though the one you mentioned did pick that back up which is why I'm still sad it was never localized and released here. Plus it meant I couldn't get my Fire Emblem fix...

I played that one and completely forgot there was a custom character...
But from what I remember it was mostly, choose a gender and give them a name, so I'm going to say it doesn't count, erase that character mostly from my brain and continue giving the spotlight to Lyn, Eliwood and Hector XD.

 

[Constable Reggie]

I really hope this new Fire Emblem has better written characters than Awakening did, which totally dropped the ball that the rest of the FE games held. Hopefully this means that everybody can't romance everybody, which I feel resulted in the terrible characterization.

Here's to hoping we get interesting, nuanced characters like we did in Fire Emblem and Sacred Stones, and not cliche anime stereotypes like from Awakening.

 

[Erttheking]

Oh heck yeah, looking forward to this.

(Is it gonna be another dating sim?)

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

It's as if the Direct was to say "You might have heard a lot of people trying to make us seem like we're on the verge of collapse. This is how we like to tell those idiots to go fuck themselves."

Great stuff, what with a new FE, release dates and windows for a bevy of titles, and some neat new stuff like Amiibo functionality with Code Name STEAM.

 

[(name here)]

Oh and damsel in distress, lovely. At least, that's how I interpret one of the scenes in the trailer.

My bet is that's a Manakete or possibly a mage of some kind. Strange hair, glowing pendant, dragon imagery.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I really hope this new Fire Emblem has better written characters than Awakening did, which totally dropped the ball that the rest of the FE games held. Hopefully this means that everybody can't romance everybody, which I feel resulted in the terrible characterization.

Here's to hoping we get interesting, nuanced characters like we did in Fire Emblem and Sacred Stones, and not cliche anime stereotypes like from Awakening.

Jokes's on you then, the writer is best know as a manga and anime writer (doing such works as Kindaichi Case Files and the ever-hilarious GetBackers). So prepare for the Japanese aesthetic to be in full-force. And thank freaking Buddha for that.

 

[Constable Reggie]

I really hope this new Fire Emblem has better written characters than Awakening did, which totally dropped the ball that the rest of the FE games held. Hopefully this means that everybody can't romance everybody, which I feel resulted in the terrible characterization.

Here's to hoping we get interesting, nuanced characters like we did in Fire Emblem and Sacred Stones, and not cliche anime stereotypes like from Awakening.

Jokes's on you then, the writer is best know as a manga and anime writer (doing such works as Kindaichi Case Files and the ever-hilarious GetBackers). So prepare for the Japanese aesthetic to be in full-force. And thank freaking Buddha for that.

I'd like to think that them announcing a new writer of all positions is an acknowledgement that the writing of Awakening wasn't up to the standards set by the previous games.

And if Reddit analysis of the manga writer's past tendencies holds any sort of truth, he'll hopefully make for more interesting conversations than "We saw each other naked in a comedic fashion! Will you marry me?"

 

[Nixou]

And here go away 300 more hours of my life.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I'd like to think that them announcing a new writer of all positions is an acknowledgement that the writing of Awakening wasn't up to the standards set by the previous games.

And if Reddit analysis of the manga writer's past tendencies holds any sort of truth, he'll hopefully make for more interesting conversations than "We saw each other naked in a comedic fashion! Will you marry me?"

Or, y'know, they did it for funsies. Plus he's ALSO one for the gags in manga. Seriously, Getbackers had fanservice cranked up like mad (equal opportunity at that). And are we REALLY trying to act like Awakening was NEW to that kind of writing? For crying out loud, Kieran and Rhys' support can best be described as an Idiot and Straight Man routine with increasingly goofy injuries. Oh, and let's not forget Lute in Sacred Stones' inability to talk in anything other than "research speak." Or Florina's crippling shyness over Hector that's so acute it takes her damn pegasus to drag him in front of her just so she can finally talk to the guy. Or Ephraim who was so thick-headed around Tana he chose to discuss his rivalry with her brother instead of the giant "Jump my friggin' bones, lunkhead" sign written in glowing neon over her head. The series was rife with it to begin with.

 

[Hectix777]

Yes yes this is very pretty, NOW TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND THE WAIFUS!!!!!!

 

[Constable Reggie]

I suppose Awakening's method of support conversations, where several characters actually have the exact same lines in specific conversations depending on their parents, makes for better fleshed out characters. Quantity > Quality, after all.

Fire Emblem has had goofy or comedic conversations, it's not like it's a masterful series when it comes to characterization or anything. But the previous games have had fantastic conversations unmatched by anything Awakening could bring to the table, which I feel is because there were fewer, more tightly focused conversations. Wallace couldn't romance every single female character in Fe7, so you get something like the amazing Wallace/Lyn support chain, which adds a layer of depth and complexity to his initial somewhat loose and carefree shtick we see. Similar conversations include Jaffar/Nino, Jaffar/Matthew, Serra/Lucius, Lute/Knoll (which alone is better than all of Miriel's conversations combined), and so on.

I'm not denying that Fire Emblem has had its silly writing in the past; Kieran doesn't really have much of a character, for example, but the ratio has been so heavily skewed in Awakening. There are no doubt some very good bits in Awakening (some of Virion's conversations come to mind), but they're hidden under a trove of ridiculous conversations that add practically nothing to anyone's characterization. They're no doubt enjoyable for many people, which is fine, but Awakening's characters are very shallow compared to ones from previous games.

I'm not even gonna mention Awakening's story lol

 

[Malbourne]

I've only ever played Sacred Stones and Radiant Dawn, so I'll probably be tackling Awakening before this. That said, I still don't wanna wait too long to play it!

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

(Is it gonna be another dating sim?)

Unlikely considering that Fire Emblem games generally only carry over secondary mechanics to other games in the same universe, and this game clearly isn't happening in the same world as Awakening, and even if they were in the same world there could still be a change, given the huge changes between other fire emblems and their direct sequels (like dropping parent/child with Tharcia 776, the changes to bonus exp and supports in Radiant Dawn, and the addition of a main character who didn't suck ass to Blazing Sword).

 

[Arfreid]

SO MUCH HYPE! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I am excite, in case you couldn't tell

I think your avatar says it all friend !

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

(Is it gonna be another dating sim?)

Unlikely considering that Fire Emblem games generally only carry over secondary mechanics to other games in the same universe, and this game clearly isn't happening in the same world as Awakening, and even if they were in the same world there could still be a change, given the huge changes between other fire emblems and their direct sequels (like dropping parent/child with Tharcia 776, the changes to bonus exp and supports in Radiant Dawn, and the addition of a main character who didn't suck ass to Blazing Sword).

There's no way Supports done the way Awakening did aren't going to return; Supports have been popular since their introduction in Binding Blade and titles like Radiant Dawn and Shadow Dragon caught hell for removing them. I don't see kids returning, but there is certainly going to be a Waifu Emblem Redux.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

(Is it gonna be another dating sim?)

Unlikely considering that Fire Emblem games generally only carry over secondary mechanics to other games in the same universe, and this game clearly isn't happening in the same world as Awakening, and even if they were in the same world there could still be a change, given the huge changes between other fire emblems and their direct sequels (like dropping parent/child with Tharcia 776, the changes to bonus exp and supports in Radiant Dawn, and the addition of a main character who didn't suck ass to Blazing Sword).

There's no way Supports done the way Awakening did aren't going to return; Supports have been popular since their introduction in Binding Blade and titles like Radiant Dawn and Shadow Dragon caught hell for removing them. I don't see kids returning, but there is certainly going to be a Waifu Emblem Redux.

Aside from Awakening, supports did not end in marriage scenes, romances often ended ambiguously, and the vast majority of supports were not romantic, with most characters maybe having one or two possible pairings among roughly 8 or so supports. Also the children thing. Without all of those elements, I cannot imagine the game being the waifu simulator that Awakening was.

I mean, let's be honest, who in their right mind would call path of radiance a waifu simulator?

 

[xaszatm]

(Is it gonna be another dating sim?)

Unlikely considering that Fire Emblem games generally only carry over secondary mechanics to other games in the same universe, and this game clearly isn't happening in the same world as Awakening, and even if they were in the same world there could still be a change, given the huge changes between other fire emblems and their direct sequels (like dropping parent/child with Tharcia 776, the changes to bonus exp and supports in Radiant Dawn, and the addition of a main character who didn't suck ass to Blazing Sword).

There's no way Supports done the way Awakening did aren't going to return; Supports have been popular since their introduction in Binding Blade and titles like Radiant Dawn and Shadow Dragon caught hell for removing them. I don't see kids returning, but there is certainly going to be a Waifu Emblem Redux.

Aside from Awakening, supports did not end in marriage scenes, romances often ended ambiguously, and the vast majority of supports were not romantic, with most characters maybe having one or two possible pairings among roughly 8 or so supports. Also the children thing. Without all of those elements, I cannot imagine the game being the waifu simulator that Awakening was.

I mean, let's be honest, who in their right mind would call path of radiance a waifu simulator?

Yeah, but remember the context. Fire Emblem was to be the last game in the series if it sold poorly. Awakening is one of the best selling, if not THE best selling, Fire Emblem games of all time. At the very least, the pair up system is back from Awakening given we see that it the gameplay. I think we will see quite a bit of carry-over from that game. That being said, I think this game will be the harder game as IS did talk about how they were unhappy with the lack of unique maps in Awakening.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Aside from Awakening, supports did not end in marriage scenes, romances often ended ambiguously, and the vast majority of supports were not romantic, with most characters maybe having one or two possible pairings among roughly 8 or so supports. Also the children thing. Without all of those elements, I cannot imagine the game being the waifu simulator that Awakening was.

I mean, let's be honest, who in their right mind would call path of radiance a waifu simulator?

And with the way Awakening did it, Supports were even more popular. Yeah, we're going to get multiple pairings, probably marriages, and unambiguous romances again. The omission of kids will probably mean they have to do something else to entice the player into hooking people up which could make for something interesting gameplay-wise.