Nintendo claiming to be done with gimmicky bullshit and releasing a hardware giant?
Did Peter Molyneux take over the company when i wasn't looking?
Did Peter Molyneux take over the company when i wasn't looking?
New Nintendo Console "Confirmed" for E3
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I'm quite skeptical. Nintendo have repeatedly said that their next console HAS to be more than just a graphical upgrade. Plus I don't see them announcing it since the 3DS is still young and they gave the DS two years to itself before the Wii rolled around.
Wow, so Microsoft and Sony are going to imitate Nintendo and go after a market they have no sway over and whose every potential buyer already owns a Wii?The Random One said:
Prediction: You probably made a comment like this when the Sony and Microsoft announced motion controls.
Seriously, don't underestimate the Big N. They know what they're doing most of the time.
How about the motion gaming curve? How about being the only console maker actually interested in making games for kids? How about the handheld curve?AncientYoungSon said:
Nintendo is further ahead than you give them credit for. While I don't like the Wii, I consider myself a strong supporter/critic of the big N. Nintendo is the only reason Sony and Microsoft are trying to do something different. Right now, Microsoft and Sony are following a trend set by Nintendo several years ago. So the "Macarena" may be disappearing but we won't look back and ask ourselves "Why did we like that?" We will be saying "That's where it all started."
In short, Nintendo has more curves than a fat housewife.
The Xbox 360 and PS3 weren't even top-of-the line hardware when they were launched. The 360 arcade models ($200) are currently being sold at a profit. A $300 dollar console that is noticably more powerful would be easy to make.NinjaTigerXIII said:
Also, backwards compatibility is only difficult if you radically change your system architecture. They could easily produce a more powerful version of their current processor that runs Wii/Gamecube code natively.
well i called it. I said it on the g4 website as soon as i heard about the price drop. i said that if the price drop wasn't leading to a new console i might consider buying a wii. Well f@#$ Me colored, i called it and now with them making a new console i might as well wait around because by the time i can gather the funds for the NGP the new prototypes from sony and microsoft will be out. I must say damn you to hell nintendo! I'm going to steam because it's just not worth it as a financially challenged college student! It's just not worth it! Good day to you sir!
Why are so many sites talking like it'll be a big deal if it's about the same power as the 360/ps3? If it is, it's a massive and i mean MASSIVE fail on nintendo's part. It should be much faster.
Going up to AMD and asking for the crappest thing they have in stock to put in a wii2 would still result in something 2 times more powerful than a 360. It'd also probably only cost about $200 tops.
Reality? The wii will likely be about 3-4 times more powerful than a 360 for around $300-350 and half the power of the average gaming PC.
Going up to AMD and asking for the crappest thing they have in stock to put in a wii2 would still result in something 2 times more powerful than a 360. It'd also probably only cost about $200 tops.
Reality? The wii will likely be about 3-4 times more powerful than a 360 for around $300-350 and half the power of the average gaming PC.
Nobody's really been taking advantage of PC hardware. Crysis is still the best looking game out there, and from what I've heard it wasn't even that well of an optimized engine. Everything is still being designed around DX9 video cards and 512mb combined system and video memory, so people who just look at the occasional screenshot don't realize just how far ahead PC hardware is right now.TheComfyChair said:
Also, crysis is still 4 years oldBloodSquirrel said:
PC's are scarily ahead, with a graphics card (on it's own, remember CPU's have some input on the PC) from the last generation having 10 times the raw compute power of the ps3's CELL. Now considering that the CELL can't really lever most of it's power towards gaming that's a pretty huge difference.Consoles are so old in terms of tech it's unbelievable and the fact that people can even consider a new console could be LESS powerful than the (effectively compared to current tech) ancient junk in the ps3 and xbox is beyond me.
As much as I hate motion gaming all around, Kinect is far ahead of that curve.Jeronus said:
But I still think it won't matter. I'm not convinced that motion gaming is here to stay. Much like the Guitar Hero fad, I wouldn't be surprised to see it end at some point in the near future.
Leapster.
And last I checked, 3rd parties still release plenty of E rated games on the PS360.
The iPhone is a better handheld gaming system than the DS or 3DS. In fact, the iPhone is the sole reason we've seen so many new DS iterations lately, including the 3DS: Nintendo is scrambling under Apple's pressure.
Nintendo delayed the inevitable, especially because they didn't use their monetary advantage to follow through after becoming #1 again. They missed the boat on online play and online content delivery and how badly they've shafted 3rd parties is going to come back to haunt them when no 3rd party is going to offer anything better than cheaply made garbage for Nintendo's next console (or they'll port 5 year old next gen games to it. The Wii will FINALLY get Bioshock, lawl).
You know who the REAL innovative forces in the gaming industry are right now?
Apple and Valve, because they both provide a dirt-simple platform that independent developers can create games for, something Nintendo claimed they were going to do with WiiWare then wound up fucking WiiWare developers over by never advertising the fact that the service exists and investing next to nothing into the service.
More innovation is happening on the iTunes store and Steam than Nintendo or any other dev has done with all of the motion-controlled crap out there, ever.
Eternal Darkness was developed by Silicon Knights and only published by Nintendo.OutrageousEmu said:
Nintendo has as much to do with the creation of the game as they had with the creation of Professor Layton, hence why I said "if you count it".
The last NEW Nintendo IP was Pikmin, released in 2001. That was the LAST new internally developed franchise that wasn't a "Wii _____" game. Nintendo has not dared to create a new character-based game in roughly 10 years now.
How sad is that?
It's not a gimmick like the Wii he says? The Wii didn't have to be a gimmick, it's mainly the fault of the developers who barely did anything with the technology. The same can just as well happen with this new console.
This is somewhat long okay.AncientYoungSon said:
That's like criticizing the comic book industry for using the same character for 60 year and not using anything new when in reality they had introduced many characters throughout the comic that have to do with that character.
Others have done it GoW,Gears of War,Halo,etc. Tons of people do it.
The Nintendo characters just have to much potential because they don't try to be realistic.
They can make their characters out of yarn or paper if they want to, now could the other companies get away with that?
Or maybe the fact that the most of the games you say they rehash are actually one entire story line have anything to do with it.
As for zelda they are trying to do damage control.
And most Mario games have no timeline even the paper mario games.
Though being able to adapt a character to nearly anything given means you may as well not make another one. Though if you can tell me the time that Sony and Microsoft produced a game that had 10 yr old boy fighting something that can destroy universes you call me over on character development.
Personally Nintendo needs to retcon Zelda and start over and pokemon as well the games they have can be much better if they follow this.
Though I don't know what you are talking about with characters when the things they mostly release at Sony and Microsoft are super soldiers and the fact that Sony and Mirosoft just buy company's and have them make the games for them
It's not that Nintendo needs new characters it's that they are not using them to their full potential as they should,however they are bring out characters that they rarely used now.
Hopefully they are going to actually bring out the full selection of games to the US and
other places. For every game that makes it over here there are 5 that don't make it over here :/ Though I mainly blame folks that are so jaded.
Oh about a new IP Nintendogs,Tingle(they did...) and several others come to mind.
Don't say the most recent was Pikmin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games
Others have done it GoW,Gears of War,Halo,etc. Tons of people do it.
The Nintendo characters just have to much potential because they don't try to be realistic.
They can make their characters out of yarn or paper if they want to, now could the other companies get away with that?
Or maybe the fact that the most of the games you say they rehash are actually one entire story line have anything to do with it.
As for zelda they are trying to do damage control.
Though being able to adapt a character to nearly anything given means you may as well not make another one. Though if you can tell me the time that Sony and Microsoft produced a game that had 10 yr old boy fighting something that can destroy universes you call me over on character development.
Personally Nintendo needs to retcon Zelda and start over and pokemon as well the games they have can be much better if they follow this.
Though I don't know what you are talking about with characters when the things they mostly release at Sony and Microsoft are super soldiers and the fact that Sony and Mirosoft just buy company's and have them make the games for them
It's not that Nintendo needs new characters it's that they are not using them to their full potential as they should,however they are bring out characters that they rarely used now.
Hopefully they are going to actually bring out the full selection of games to the US and
other places. For every game that makes it over here there are 5 that don't make it over here :/ Though I mainly blame folks that are so jaded.
Oh about a new IP Nintendogs,Tingle(they did...) and several others come to mind.
Don't say the most recent was Pikmin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games
