thenumberthirteen said:
ohhh ouch, what model did you have?.
I've just done a minutes silence in your PS3's honour.
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ohhh ouch, what model did you have?.
I've just done a minutes silence in your PS3's honour.
That's the thing, they weren't. From what I've been able to gather, it's some sort of hacked development kit, the person using it is in essence pretending to be a licensed game developer so that the PS3 will allow unlicensed software to run. The backup launcher or whatever it's called is one such unlicensed software. That is not to say that this won't eventually unleash the long-held-back hacker hordes who will crack the system itself, but so far it hasn't happened. Then again I might be wrong, of course, only working on what I've been able to dig up from Google.WilliamRLBaker said:
I wholeheartily agree. Can't hackers go back to what they used to do before hacking? ...oh wait...Corpse XxX said:
Anyhow, I'm rooting for Sony, and here's hoping that the hackers DIAF. (Sorry if this insults anyone, this is just my own personal opinion).
The number of pirates was reduced, sure, but it's a long cry from "they are no longer". You can still buy the old models all over the internet; all you can say for sure is that pirates won't be upgrading to the 3000 and Go models any time soon, that's about it.Sinclose said:
What I mean is, Sony won the "arms race" against hackers in the end (as they are bound to with their own platform and especially if it needs to connect to their servers like the PS3), but that only stopped the piracy form spreading, not in any way eliminate the models already hacked.
On one hand, I support Sony's right to enforce anti-pirating and keeping their system intact, but on the other hand:
DAMN, those hackers are good. It'd be a shame for them to all get sued or something. I kinda respect people who'll look a giant like Sony in the eye, and say "SCREW YOU"
DAMN, those hackers are good. It'd be a shame for them to all get sued or something. I kinda respect people who'll look a giant like Sony in the eye, and say "SCREW YOU"
Well the hacks have already been modified to get past the new firmware. This is gonna be more or less a game of tennis with Sony releasing a patch to block the latest hacks.
It's a shame as the only people that suffer is the legit users who have to download 160MB sized patches every week. (on my slow connection it takes about half an hour in total to download and install)
Why don't Sony simply block the machines that are pirating from the PSN like MS did? Instead of messing about with a losing battle
It's a shame as the only people that suffer is the legit users who have to download 160MB sized patches every week. (on my slow connection it takes about half an hour in total to download and install)
Why don't Sony simply block the machines that are pirating from the PSN like MS did? Instead of messing about with a losing battle
It was the best model the 60gb launch model (expanded to 120gb) with backwards compatibility and card readers.ColdStorage said:
I hope Sony gets what's coming at it.
Gotta be REALLY REALLY stupid, seriously, just INCREDIBLY stupid, to take out Linux functionality when you KNOW it's what's keeping the hackers/crackers/scene/howeverthehellyouwannacallthem from cracking your system to dust.
Sony asked for this, and I really hope the scene grants them their wishes. In spades. (Mind you, this is not a pro-piracy statement, I don't even have a PS3 myself, I just wish to see stupidity punished).
It's only a matter of time before they find a way through this, if they haven't already.
Gotta be REALLY REALLY stupid, seriously, just INCREDIBLY stupid, to take out Linux functionality when you KNOW it's what's keeping the hackers/crackers/scene/howeverthehellyouwannacallthem from cracking your system to dust.
Sony asked for this, and I really hope the scene grants them their wishes. In spades. (Mind you, this is not a pro-piracy statement, I don't even have a PS3 myself, I just wish to see stupidity punished).
Oh yes, shut down. The code has already been released throughout the internet and being rewritten for use in iPods, iPads, iPhones, PSPs, several kinds of smartphones, and even the bloody DualShock 3 itself.Jaredin said:
It's only a matter of time before they find a way through this, if they haven't already.
Nope, after they released the ps3.5 (the so-called "slim"), sony will never again get sympathy from me.
After all, I paid fair bit o' cash for one of the first models, and then blam, it was obsolete like sony had been sitting on slightly better tech all along...
And even if they hadn't had the tech at the time, it was wrong of them to expect me to buy the system twice.
After all, I paid fair bit o' cash for one of the first models, and then blam, it was obsolete like sony had been sitting on slightly better tech all along...
And even if they hadn't had the tech at the time, it was wrong of them to expect me to buy the system twice.
There is a major difference however. There were big periods between CFW builds during which you couldn't go online, and even now going online is hard on cfw.Generic Gamer said:
That isn't a big deal for the PSP, the console is mostly used on the move, most games don't have online, and even those that do, you usually don't buy them to play online.
PS3 on the other hand has a lot of online content, and a console that can't go online loses 50% of its features, so long periods of time with no online means a lot users of the pirated software will give up.
There are still those who don't care about online on the PS3, but its significantly less than those who don't care about online on the PSP.
1) How many Pittsburgh Pirate fans do you know of? Or the Red Skins in football? There is a supply/demand factor in their numbers that makes the owner think if they could earn more by under playing their team and operating at optimal costs (what EVERY business does) or do I attempt to bankrupt myself and try to run it closer to my costs equaling my revenue. If you are so inclined to the "true sportsmanship of potential teams" like that, cheer for the Packers or just watch the European league.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
2) JP Morgan paid their think tank (mostly) with that money. You can get another bank teller anywhere, but people who go to school for math and econ (hello) are considerably harder to come by. There is a reason why actuaries are one of the highest paying professions out there.
3) And who says that the owners (who had to fork over a ton of cash to own these franchises) didn't "earn" their money when they look at the numbers and decide to change one of the variables? Go tell that theory to a business analyst, all they do is attempt to trim the fat of corporations to make them run smoother by looking at numbers and changing ticket prices.
I will assume that you like the PS3 (you have the PSN badge after all) and so do I. However, if the hackers completely dominate the system (as you are hoping for in your posts) then the people on top won't make anything for it because there will be no returns. They will ultimately stop making games for it, and then everyone is SOL. Then you will be stuck with an out dated system because they went bankrupt attempting to fight them, or they released a PS4 that has higher anti-hacking definitions.
What do the newer models have that the older ones don't? I'm still using a 40GB version (3rd release I think it was) expanded to 120 GB and haven't found any logical reason whatsoever to upgrade... are the older models missing something compared to the new ones?oranger said:
Holy sweet Mary mother of Jesus, I too have one of those, the PS3 Model C (I believe its called), the card reader cover is currently open at "half mast" in respect of a fallen comrade.thenumberthirteen said:
Do all you corporate ass-kissers realize that Sony stole the Other OS feature from legit, paying customers? Is that perfectly OK with you?
And before anyone spouts the "don't run it online if you want the Other OS" crap, you need to understand the implied agreement in any software purchase. Customers know they are buying product that isn't necessarily perfect, however they expect to get updates which move the software closer to perfect and maybe add some implied but not implemented features.
And before anyone spouts the "don't run it online if you want the Other OS" crap, you need to understand the implied agreement in any software purchase. Customers know they are buying product that isn't necessarily perfect, however they expect to get updates which move the software closer to perfect and maybe add some implied but not implemented features.
If having to have the disc in the drive on the PC is considered cumbersome DRM, wouldn't the same be true for the consoles, when they have the capacity to install the game on the drive?Belladonnah said:
Also, if your console is lost/stolen or broken (and you don't want to pay $150+shipping for repairs), you automatically lose access to any and all PSN video content, both already purchased and any you might want to buy/rent in the future. You can only regain access if you manage to convince a Sony representative to restore it for you, which has to be done over the telephone, is not easy and ends in a failure more often than not, if Internet is to be believed. The DRM on PSN game content is more lenient (you get 5 chances instead of 1), but it's still the same system.
The hackers always, ALWAYS, win. This will be no different.
It's the right of the customer to do with their hardware as they wish, including hacking it. It's the right of Sony to make their updates mandatory for online access. Sony, however, will always lose in the long run, the hackers are smarter and more numerous. And all it takes is one of them figuring it out for the entire world to have access to the new hack. Hell, but fighting the jail breaking so hard, all Sony is doing it putting a gigantic target on their backs, the good hackers like nothing so much as a challenge.
Wonder how much money Sony is going to spend on this bullshit before they recognize the futility of their situation.
It's the right of the customer to do with their hardware as they wish, including hacking it. It's the right of Sony to make their updates mandatory for online access. Sony, however, will always lose in the long run, the hackers are smarter and more numerous. And all it takes is one of them figuring it out for the entire world to have access to the new hack. Hell, but fighting the jail breaking so hard, all Sony is doing it putting a gigantic target on their backs, the good hackers like nothing so much as a challenge.
Wonder how much money Sony is going to spend on this bullshit before they recognize the futility of their situation.
