New PS3 Update Kills Jailbreak

[Lord_Gremlin]

Looks like this particular hack is nullified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kmfDeasuoA&feature=related

 

[Dak_N_Jaxter]

LOL
Awesome.
Swift decisive action beats sueing people anytime.

 

[-Samurai-]

I haven't done the update yet, so I'm wondering what they've done to stop the USB thing from working.

I better still have access to my USB sticks(which I use to put old saves on my computer to save HDD space on the PS3) and card readers. I use those things almost every day.

I guess I should go start it and see...

[EDIT] Still works.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

*Pokes Nintendo's shoulder*

Hey, Hey you see that?

*Points at Sony*

That's how you stop mods.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Well, fair enough. Sony is perfectly entitled to defend itself like this.

 

[oranger]

After all, I paid fair bit o' cash for one of the first models, and then blam, it was obsolete like sony had been sitting on slightly better tech all along...
And even if they hadn't had the tech at the time, it was wrong of them to expect me to buy the system twice.

What do the newer models have that the older ones don't? I'm still using a 40GB version (3rd release I think it was) expanded to 120 GB and haven't found any logical reason whatsoever to upgrade... are the older models missing something compared to the new ones?

Yes, the newer ones have their hardware optimized, and in some cases the firmware has been expanded.

 

[alrekr]

I hope Sony wins this..

Hackers make it worse for people who pay up fair and square..

I wish I could believe this. We've not seen any improvement or cost decrease in games during the period that the PS3 has been secure. It would be lovely if Sony rewarded those that are loyal to the brand but unfortunately that won't happen. The big business boys are more interested in squeezing as much they can out of the community so they can buy their next luxury yacht.

Sony really offered themselves to the wolves by removing the 'Other OS' capability, there was never any justification for hacks or exploits prior to that as there was no legitimate reason to exploit the platform.

As a software developer, I liked the idea of the PS3 linux partition but found it was very awkward to use in conjunction with my kids wanting to use the PS3 for normal use. The USB device would give me a great temporary way of running unsigned *legal* code on the platform, and I'd like to be able to do that.

The Linux was removed because people *cough* US Air Force *cough* were using clusters of ps3 as super computers but Sony actualy loses money per console so sony was losing shed loads of cash. Consoles don't make money, but the games for them do.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100513/0113129410.shtml

 

[cerebus23]

yea but the us air force and researchers are not all that interested in the latest firmware so they can play games online either, in fact i am sure the people using ps3 linked together for supercomputing functions are doing the same now as they ever have.

bottom like xbox, xbox 360, ps1, ps2, psp, wii, all have been hacked to death, only difference with the latest ps3 hack is it requires no invasive moddding to the hardware or to the software far as i can tell at lest. even with the abundance of hacking in all these systems most of them continue to sell games at a good clip.

also begs the quest of how this hack for ps3 works? if you can rent a game, copy it to your hd, return the game and play the game anytime you like, that is a bad precident combined with the simply using a usb device to mod it. if you are required to download your hacked games then it still is a tremendous bother for most people, being that ps3 games are 20 to 40 gig in size that is quite a long download on all but the fastest of fast broadband connections.

somewhow i doubt the ps3 will be ruined even if this thing is allowed to exist in some way shape or form, any more than the ps2 was ruined and xbox 360 have been ruined by modded consoles, should be easy for sony in either case to lock hacked systems out from online anyway, hell microsoft nuked modded xbox users on live without warning.

sony would be better served of letting them have their way a bit see how it plays out and take some time and develop a real nerf to it and not some bandaide that from some posts on here i assume is already cracked by the modders. or just let them all play their ps3 and brick their systems one day.

 

[SpaceMedarotterX]

If anyone needs help understanding how this works

The original hacks took advantage of the PS3 boot order being USB drives first and then the Harddrive, this just re-arranges the order, as well as locking out the options to change which order you want.

This doesn't actually surprise me.

I heard (from a 3rd party mind you) that the hacks developer went to Sony and said "I figured out the exploit, I also figured out how to fix it, pay me a whole bunch of money and I'll tell you how"

 

[poiuppx]

Do all you corporate ass-kissers realize that Sony stole the Other OS feature from legit, paying customers? Is that perfectly OK with you?

Yep. Perfectly. Didn't affect me worth a damn. And quite honestly, whatever they need to do or delete to keep security up on the PS3 is fine by me. Beats consoles turning into the same wild west as PC gaming, where each developer is free to fark around with whatever security measures they see fit to. All I want to do is play my damn games I paid for. The rest is filler.

 

[Optimystic]

You know I remember when a PS3 update used to add new features. When are they going to update the flash player, or implement cross game chat, or do something besides cover their asses?

But... that would require caring about their players!

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

*Pokes Nintendo's shoulder*

Hey, Hey you see that?

*Points at Sony*

That's how you stop mods.

Nintendo doesn't care about mods or homebrew except for paying lipservice to the whole thing to appease clueless stockholders/or 3rd party developers.

You know why? Because Ninty is too smart to sell hardware at a loss and hope to make up the difference in volume. If you buy a Wii and hack it immediately Nintendo still makes money, cool huh?

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Do all you corporate ass-kissers realize that Sony stole the Other OS feature from legit, paying customers? Is that perfectly OK with you?

Yep. Perfectly. Didn't affect me worth a damn. Also I'm not against people drowning puppies for fun, because that doesn't affect me worth a damn either.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Antari]

Sony has just chosen to fight a battle that can't be won. Congrats Sony!

 

[Unrulyhandbag]

Do all you corporate ass-kissers realize that Sony stole the Other OS feature from legit, paying customers? Is that perfectly OK with you?

Yep. Perfectly. Didn't affect me worth a damn. Also I'm not against people drowning puppies for fun, because that doesn't affect me worth a damn either.

Fixed that for you.

I don't see any difference. [mumbles] Steal my other OS from me, bastards [/mumbles]

They could have released new firmware that patched the hypervisor to stop the (extremely difficult) Linux unlock before it even got started rather than simply pulling the plug on my cheap second computer.... but I guess fixing something is way too much hard work.

OT this means nothing, once the hackers have access outside the hypervisor creating new hacks will be relativity simple and there's nothing stopping them creating a layer to run the PS3's firmware over the top of their own much like the PSP hacks meaning updates only bother legit users.

Oh and you can go log onto PSN with a hacked PSP it's just a case of getting one tiny program to solve that issue.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

*Pokes Nintendo's shoulder*

Hey, Hey you see that?

*Points at Sony*

That's how you stop mods.

Nintendo doesn't care about mods or homebrew except for paying lipservice to the whole thing to appease clueless stockholders/or 3rd party developers.

You know why? Because Ninty is too smart to sell hardware at a loss and hope to make up the difference in volume. If you buy a Wii and hack it immediately Nintendo still makes money, cool huh?

If I were Nintendo, I'd care about people being able to store the DS' ENTIRE library on a mini SD card.

The last time a company didn't care about its 3rd party it, for lack of better words, fucked them right up. I believe that companies name was SEGA

 

[Macgyvercas]

Fireware arms race.

I like the sound of that. I wasn't around during the Cold War, but this should do nicely for something to keep an eye on (and is less deadly than nukes too!)

 

[aaron552]

Rooting for the hackers.
Closed systems are bad.

'Legit' users are annoyed because the DRM crap is up their asses being annoying.
While the hackers hack precisely because the DRM is annoying.
Well, some of them. I'm sure many just want free games.
Publishers need to get a clue and understand that you don't beat piracy by punishing legit users.

There was no DRM crap on PS3 that would interfere in any way with the legit user, so everything else in your logic is useless.

Except for all the mandatory updates?

 

[Rayansaki]

Rooting for the hackers.
Closed systems are bad.

'Legit' users are annoyed because the DRM crap is up their asses being annoying.
While the hackers hack precisely because the DRM is annoying.
Well, some of them. I'm sure many just want free games.
Publishers need to get a clue and understand that you don't beat piracy by punishing legit users.

There was no DRM crap on PS3 that would interfere in any way with the legit user, so everything else in your logic is useless.

Except for all the mandatory updates?

Yeah, and pirating the console stops that? Jailbreak has no effect on your one "DRM crap" you mentioned, and I still disagree with it being a bad thing.

Updates fix problems, add features, etc. Every service needs updates. Steam needs to update if you want to keep playing, Games need patches if you want to continue to have access to online, its all part of the basic progress in quality.

Besides, they hardly disrupt your access since it takes 20~30 minutes to install the biggest patches and 10- for the small ones, and you hardly get 1 per month, and that's when you get any at all, with periods of 3-4 months with no updates.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

*Pokes Nintendo's shoulder*

Hey, Hey you see that?

*Points at Sony*

That's how you stop mods.

Nintendo doesn't care about mods or homebrew except for paying lipservice to the whole thing to appease clueless stockholders/or 3rd party developers.

You know why? Because Ninty is too smart to sell hardware at a loss and hope to make up the difference in volume. If you buy a Wii and hack it immediately Nintendo still makes money, cool huh?

If I were Nintendo, I'd care about people being able to store the DS' ENTIRE library on a mini SD card.

The last time a company didn't care about its 3rd party it, for lack of better words, fucked them right up. I believe that companies name was SEGA

The difference is SEGA didn't have rock solid first party games like Nintendo. Even if every 3rd party developer went away Nintendo hardware would still sell because people would buy it for the latest iteration of Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party devs, 3rd party devs need Nintendo for its marketshare and low development costs.