if you actually read the article, he hit her in the chest with a brickJamash said:So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?
Does freedom of speech not apply to children, who can be shot for being mouthy?
I know it's not quite as simple as that, but it does seem a bit extreme to shoot a child, even if he was being a bastard.
I hope she was a crack shot and was aiming for his shoulder, because if not she's extremely lucky. Six inches out and she could have hit him in the head or chest.
Does not work that way. In the U.S. many states have laws authorizing private citizens to use deadly force to defend themselves against less than deadly threats to their home, their property, even, in some states, their personal space. The same does not go for riots. It isn't a fucking police state over there. I personally think they are a little crazy.Jamash said:This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.xDarc said:No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.Jamash said:So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?
People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.
very clear and succinct, I'm glad someone can put it into words so efficiently.UltraParanoia said:This happened in Chicago, which happens to be a hellhole. Hooray Granny for trying to remove one peice of shit from that sewer.
As far as I can tell the people who think granny was in the wrong are basing that opinion on two things: He was twelve, and "he didn't do anything to warrant deadly force."
1. So, he was 12, if he was 18 would it automatically make it okay for her to shoot the hell out of him? The fact that this little fucker was 12 is irrelevant. 12 is more than enough time to be aware of what you're doing to people. The kinds of teens who enjoy terrorizing and assaulting the elderly generally also enjoy tormenting animals, random assault, and setting the homeless on fire. Not to mention, it's not like bullies ever escalate, so he'd never outright rape, beat or kill her sometime down the road, right?
Oh, and as for the "where are his parents" questions, another article I read on it said he was raised by the same Grandmother who made up that wonderfully idiotic story in his defence. So she's probably one of those Let him do whatever he wants, and the when he inevitably gets iced for being a fuckhead, go on TV and scream "HE WUZ A GUD KID, HE AIN NEVA DON NUTHIN TO NOBODY" people that you just want to sterilize.
2. On to the second part, I can kill you with a brick, fairly easily. It's part of the reason rocks were the #1 goto military ammunition for thousands of years. Rocks, more effective than pointy sticks. Therefore, Bricks = Deadly Force, quit being fucking stupid about shit like this.
Your mistaking a pacifist with a madman or a person who doesn't feel emotion. Ofcourse I'd have undying hatred, I just wouldn't hunt for revenge like a blood-crazed animal. I would spit on the floor they walk upon and stare at them with pure hatred, but never attack. If they did do such crimes then there would be unfaulting evidence against them and they would spend the rest of their life in jail or a mental instituet. If everyone was a pacifist then the world would be a hell of alot better place.HG131 said:No, you aren't a pacifist, you're a punchingFallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:If someone was to commit such crimes against my family I would not persue revenge. Revenge helps with nothing and will consume anybody who trys to commit it. I would seek a fair trail under the laws of my country, England. If the accused is found innocent I accept the courts desision and move on withHG131 said:Do you think they could afford to fire aFallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:Then the police should be serverly punished or even fired, disregard of duty caused this.HG131 said:She did go to them. They hit her with a brick. They could have killed her. And not everyone deserves to live.Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:Ugh, you are one of those people. Everyone has a right to live, taking that away or saying someone doesn't deserve it puts you in the same catagory as Nazis to me. And he was a kid, a stupid kid who would of wised up after time in juvie. Shooting him was unnessisary, Granny should of gone to the cops. If it had been happening for a year then why didn't she go earlier? Violance is never needed and should always be avioded. For only weak minds turn to violance in times of need. There is always another way.HG131 said:It wasn't a "stupid thing", it had been happening for a year!Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:What? That's stupid! If I went around shooting everyone who did that I would've shot hundreds, possibly thousands of people. This is unjustifiable, especially seen as though it was a kid. And newsflash, kids do stupid things without thinking about it. She should of called the police and have him sent to juvie.
Some people shouldn't be allowed to live. This kid is one of those people.Celtic_Kerr said:There is a difference between hurt and killed. He's 12 years old. Not saying he shouldn't be hurt, but being shot is overkill.Richard Eis said:As far as i'm concerned, her aim was off.
Someone terrorises an old lady for a year, they deserve what they get, as they clearly have no sense of compassion or understanding. Prissy little "humans shouldn't be hurt, everyone is speshul" space cadets need a few lessons in real life.
And everyone has the right to a life, the opposite thought is what caused WW2 and countless other wars.
bunch of cops? New ones have to be tested and trained for a while. Also, if everyone has the right to life, does that mean that if someone were to say,
drop a nuke on NYC you'd say they should live? What if someone shot you in the gut and raped your entire family in front of you and then killed them all
and left you alive? Would you campaign for his right to life? Would you support a man who tortured you and everyone you love? We have a name for that.
Stockholm Syndrome.
my life and build a new future for myself. I would not dwell on the past, for that is who I am. A pacifist.
bag. I'm glad I'm not related to you, I'd cut off all ties with a family member who didn't feel an undying hatred for my murderer. You sound like you'd
become drinking buddies with a person who killed everyone you know and love.
I can think of many circumstances where shooting a child can easily be justifiedlinwolf said:Shooting a child can never be justified, no matter how must of a bastard the child might be.
Thank you....the best laugh I've had all day.DarkRyter said:I don't know why, but I imagine her saying "Eat some lead, *****!" and shooting the gun sideways.
... into WHAT, exactly? The other kid? Someone's car? Someone's bedroom window? Bullets don't just disappear at 50m IRL.Jamash said:I'd show it first and fire a warning shot ...