Ninjas Can Beat Arkham City in 8 Hours

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thethingthatlurks said:
They didn't claim it was a speedrun though, just playing from a developer's perspective.
"I can tell you that our QA guys, who are ninjas and obviously know everything in the game, can do just the core story missions, nothing else, in about eight hours, just straight-lining."
Just doing the core story missions, nothing else, and just straight-lining is the definition of a speedrun.
 

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Tdc2182 said:
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8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
It's not a knee jerk reaction.

I want replay value in a game purchase. 8 hours to them is about 10 to 11 hours for me. I'm a "buy three or four" games a year kinda guy. If a game doesn't have multiplayer or a long lasting solid campaign, It's basically a pass.
I highly doubt that you will be able to complete the entire game, side-missions, riddler puzzles, and storyline, in 10 hours if it takes 8-hours to speed-run through the storyline, knowing every optimal strategy and where the missions are located.

Prove me wrong by all means, it'd be interesting to see a 100% speed-run finish of the game :D
 

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Denamic said:
thethingthatlurks said:
They didn't claim it was a speedrun though, just playing from a developer's perspective.
"I can tell you that our QA guys, who are ninjas and obviously know everything in the game, can do just the core story missions, nothing else, in about eight hours, just straight-lining."
Just doing the core story missions, nothing else, and just straight-lining is the definition of a speedrun.
A speedrun is reaching the end of the game in as little time as possible, utilizing as many exploits is possible. Doing nothing but the story missions is not a speedrun, it's just completing the game. They never claimed to have tried to do it as fast as possible, just that they managed to complete the game's story missions in 8 hours. Given the scope of most large games (including RPGs), 8 hours is pretty standard for nothing but campaign missions.
 

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FaceFaceFace said:
If they want to promote it maybe they SHOULD put an estimate on how long an ordinary gamer could play through it. I'm certainly hoping for much more than 8 hours of Batman.
They're saying they fully expect everyone to get much more than 8 hours of play from a full clear, since they barebonesd run it, and knew every nook and cranny so there was no puzzle solving. The straight run-through was 8 hours. Considering that I blitzd FO:NV in 5 hours just there, that's quite impressive.
 

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thethingthatlurks said:
A speedrun is reaching the end of the game in as little time as possible, utilizing as many exploits is possible.
I was with you while reading this, since I just said something similar in my post.
Then I read this:
Doing nothing but the story missions is not a speedrun, it's just completing the game.
And came to the conclusion that you did not read the OP.
Or, you did not understand it.
 

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Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
It's not a knee jerk reaction.

I want replay value in a game purchase. 8 hours to them is about 10 to 11 hours for me. I'm a "buy three or four" games a year kinda guy. If a game doesn't have multiplayer or a long lasting solid campaign, It's basically a pass.
I highly doubt that you will be able to complete the entire game, side-missions, riddler puzzles, and storyline, in 10 hours if it takes 8-hours to speed-run through the storyline, knowing every optimal strategy and where the missions are located.

Prove me wrong by all means, it'd be interesting to see a 100% speed-run finish of the game :D
And yet, you don't know me at all.

Go ahead and ask me how much I care about collectibles.
 

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Tdc2182 said:
Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
It's not a knee jerk reaction.

I want replay value in a game purchase. 8 hours to them is about 10 to 11 hours for me. I'm a "buy three or four" games a year kinda guy. If a game doesn't have multiplayer or a long lasting solid campaign, It's basically a pass.
I highly doubt that you will be able to complete the entire game, side-missions, riddler puzzles, and storyline, in 10 hours if it takes 8-hours to speed-run through the storyline, knowing every optimal strategy and where the missions are located.

Prove me wrong by all means, it'd be interesting to see a 100% speed-run finish of the game :D
And yet, you don't know me at all.

Go ahead and ask me how much I care about collectibles.
I love collectibles, it's a shame that most games come with only a paltry amount of collectibles (like, find 20 intelligence laptops or whatever throughout the game). I personally like to take my time with my games, explore every nook and cranny just in case there's a weapon upgrade or a hidden healthpack that I could backtrack to later.
 

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Denamic said:
thethingthatlurks said:
A speedrun is reaching the end of the game in as little time as possible, utilizing as many exploits is possible.
I was with you while reading this, since I just said something similar in my post.
Then I read this:
Doing nothing but the story missions is not a speedrun, it's just completing the game.
And came to the conclusion that you did not read the OP.
Or, you did not understand it.
*sigh*
They never claimed to have beaten the game in 8 hours solely to set a time record. The difference between doing nothing but the story missions and a speedrun is a great deal of preparation, neglect for story, and heavy use of exploits. While I can believe that the designers are going to be able to do it faster than me, I rather doubt the story missions alone exceed ten hours for most players, or at least on their second run through the game.
 

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Guys you dont understand whats it saying....

Ninjas do it in 8 hours... it doesnt mean the avarage gamer... it means people that know every single thing and follow up in the game... and let me tell you, to go straight forward to your objectives, and knowing every single fast travel technique and secret route and still take 8 hours its a lot of time...

an avarage gamer will get lost, you also have secondary missions, and a lot to explore and do.

dont get yourselfs confused about this, to us that dont know anything it will problably take 15 hours or more.
 

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Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
He'll rent it and then buy it.

Everybody wins so I wouldn't try to negotiate him out of his plans :p.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
If someone who knows ever in and out of the game, where enemies are, where they walk to, which powers you have, etc... without doing ANY second missions (which if like the other game gives you XP, making you level slower and therefore making the game harder) can do it in 8 hours, then would say y our first time run will probabl take you about 20 hours or more.

They promoted it by saying "This game takes atleast 8 hours, and that's by an absoute master of the game. it will take you MUCH longer"

EDIT: 20 hours WAS hyperbole... but you get my point
Baneat said:
They're saying they fully expect everyone to get much more than 8 hours of play from a full clear, since they barebonesd run it, and knew every nook and cranny so there was no puzzle solving. The straight run-through was 8 hours. Considering that I blitzd FO:NV in 5 hours just there, that's quite impressive.
I realize and (based on the first one) have faith that the game will be much longer than 8 hours. I was just pointing out that, as the kneejerk reaction to this headline indicates, actually telling people the game can be as short as 8 hours isn't a very good form of promotion.
 

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theultimateend said:
Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
He'll rent it and then buy it.

Everybody wins so I wouldn't try to negotiate him out of his plans :p.
Just wanted to clarify the whole situation, it's not as bad as some people are making it out to be.
 

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Jumplion said:
theultimateend said:
Jumplion said:
Tdc2182 said:
8 hours?

Gonna have to be a rent then.
For the QA people who play the game day in and day out, know every single thing in the game, doing only the core, story missions and no side missions whatsoever. Seriously, people, stop glancing over the news and giving knee-jerk reactions, everythings chill, dude.

In fact, this only heightens my excitement for the game. I've been hanckerin' for a good, solid, single-player focused game, and the original Arkham Asylum was fantabulous, so color me giddy for Arkham City.
He'll rent it and then buy it.

Everybody wins so I wouldn't try to negotiate him out of his plans :p.
Just wanted to clarify the whole situation, it's not as bad as some people are making it out to be.
You can reason people out of situations they didn't reason themselves into :). Your heart is in the right place but I'd wager you'll save yourself a few more years before carpel tunnel sets in by not putting in too much effort ;).
 

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+1 for you for the Knife Eye Attack link, John.

Anyway, 8 hours for someone who knows everything means a lot more time for me. Hurray!

Ekonk said:
Dr. McNinja reference from John = winning in a way that is usually reserved for Charlie Sheen.
I know it's a meme, but still: the concept that Charlie Sheen thinks anything he's done recently qualifies as winning is hilarious. And saying that anyone is "winning" in the same way as Sheen just seems insulting. :p
 

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I'm excited about the Metroidvania style. I think it will take me significantly longer than 8 hours to finish it...

I just finished playing through Super Metroid for the umpteenth time, and that was in 9 hours for a game that probably averages about 7. I just really like to soak it in and try random impossible/improbable stuff. If they throw sequence breaks in it, it will be my game for quite some time.
 

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Well done. I just wanted to see if anyone else on this site likes Naruto like I do. So many people can't stand it, or just hate it, that sometimes I feel like I'm the only one.
That wasn't that hard. And I really like Naruto. I may be watching it right now. >.>
 

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Dr. McNinja reference from John = winning in a way that is usually reserved for Charlie Sheen.
Agree.

And don't make fun of the Knife Eye ATTAAaAAACK!
 

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Are kidding the last time the kids in naruto unleashed their power they destroyed a whoooooOOOoooooooooooole kitchen.

Cookie for reference

(I love Naruto)