I'll probably end up resisting my fanboy urges and wait a while before this mainly because I have a DS that I rarely play as it is (despite having a large library of games) so I doubt I would play the 3DS very much.
Kickass, I hate having to get up to get my hotpockets out of the microwave.Snotnarok said:Wait 3 days and there'll be a 3DsXP or something with bigger screens and a microwave built in.
Because that requires actual work/coding to make the games playable for the 3DS, you can't simply download it and expect it to run. Either recode the games or they would have to put somekind of emulator into the hardware, and emulators take up a good chunk of power from hardware. Hell the PSP is a powerful little machine and it chugs horrendously with N64 emulators and some SNES games. Whereas GB/GBA games are pretty piss easy to emulate.LightspeedJack said:$300 is roughly £190 here in the UK however I would expect a £250 price tag for us Brits. I don't think they would have to balls to charge £300 for a handheld console. As for the virtual console why stop at GBA games, why not have SNES, NES and N64 games?
Enjoy your coma!Cassita said:Wake me when this flops and Nintendo go bankrupt.
An important point you seem to be missing is that not every new version of a handheld was necessarily better from the previous one. Sure, there were improvements and extra features, but those features weren't necessarilly important for everyone.Snotnarok said:I'd say this thing is going to be a disaster but Nintendo seems to be able to mostly avoid that. I wasn't a huge fan of 2 screens to begin with, and touch screens annoy me more but now 3D just buries it for me I've got zero interest in this besides Megaman Legends 3 is coming out for it.
Also, I don't know why ANY of you are planning on buying this the day it comes out, haven't you learned yet?
GBA, GBASP, GBA Micro, GBA SP+
DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL
Wait 3 days and there'll be a 3DsXP or something with bigger screens and a microwave built in.
Oh awesome! First time I've heard of it doing that, but it's a welcome addition. One of the best feature of the PSP Go, I think. Pretty damn stupid of Sony not to bring it to all PSPs.Tom Goldman said:Another new functionality added to the 3DS is the ability to pause a game to multitask, perhaps switching to the web browser or camera, after which players can jump right back into their games.
Thanks for the essay, but the next model is always better with the only exceptions being the DSi and the GBA Micro, the GBA SP was mandatory as upgrades go, because you couldn't see the god damn screen unless you were on the sun. The DS Lite was mandatory since the DS felt like a flimsy tiger electronic toy, and the screens might as well have been game and watch style they were so dark and cruddy. The DSiXL looks pretty awesome to me vs any of the DSs since it's got a nice bigger screen. Doesn't have a GBA adapter? That's a shame because I'd rather play on my GBA anyway.Tom Phoenix said:An important point you seem to be missing is that not every new version of a handheld was necessarily better from the previous one. Sure, there were improvements and extra features, but those features weren't necessarilly important for everyone.Snotnarok said:I'd say this thing is going to be a disaster but Nintendo seems to be able to mostly avoid that. I wasn't a huge fan of 2 screens to begin with, and touch screens annoy me more but now 3D just buries it for me I've got zero interest in this besides Megaman Legends 3 is coming out for it.
Also, I don't know why ANY of you are planning on buying this the day it comes out, haven't you learned yet?
GBA, GBASP, GBA Micro, GBA SP+
DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL
Wait 3 days and there'll be a 3DsXP or something with bigger screens and a microwave built in.
Now, granted, the Game Boy Advance line of handhelds was preety evolutionary for the most part. The SP in particular was superior to the original Advance in every way, especially since it got rid of the requirement for 4 AA bateries by including a Lithium Ion one. But the Micro was already in many ways a tradeoff from the SP and which one you wanted depended on your preference. While it was more portable and featured a customizable faceplate, a backlit screen and a standard headphone jack (the SP required a special adapter to use headphone), it also sacrificed SP's larger screen size as well as GB/GBC backwards compatibility (plus, the SP+ that was released around the same time as the Micro also had a backlit screen).
With the DS line, the differences between various versions became even less crucial and more based on preference. For example, the only advantage the Lite had over the original DS was the slimmer form factor. While a more compact handheld is always nice, it isn't exactly the kind of upgrade that everyone would see a need for. Don't get me started on the DSi, which essentially sacrificed backwards GBA compatibility and cut the battery life for a camera, SD card slot and online functionality....a tradeoff that not everyone (especially many gamers) would be willing to make. While the DSi also has improved hardware specs, the fact that most game developers developed games for the entire DS line in mind makes that a rather moot point. The XL/LL model isn't even worth mentioning....it's just a DSi with a bigger screen size.
Simply put, it's not worth bothering yourself with whether or not a "better" version of the handheld might come out in two years or so, beacuse there is no guaruantee that it will include things you actually care about. So if someone is interested in obtaining the 3DS, they might as well buy it. Besides, if they ever grow interested in one of the later versions, they can always sell their original 3DS.
...Oh....looks like I'm still waiting....mad825 said:*sigh*
I'm still waiting for those battery specs.......
Em....I never wrote any of this with the intention of "gaining your permission". My entire point was to refute your idea that every new handheld model is automatically superior to the previous one and you yourself have admitted that the DSi and Micro were hardly a "necessity". You can throw in the DSi XL in there as well. Yes, a larger sceen is nice, but far from a "mandatory" upgrade (at least compared to how the SP was).Snotnarok said:Thanks for the essay, but the next model is always better with the only exceptions being the DSi and the GBA Micro, the GBA SP was mandatory as upgrades go, because you couldn't see the god damn screen unless you were on the sun. The DS Lite was mandatory since the DS felt like a flimsy tiger electronic toy, and the screens might as well have been game and watch style they were so dark and cruddy. The DSiXL looks pretty awesome to me vs any of the DSs since it's got a nice bigger screen. Doesn't have a GBA adapter? That's a shame because I'd rather play on my GBA anyway.Tom Phoenix said:An important point you seem to be missing is that not every new version of a handheld was necessarily better from the previous one. Sure, there were improvements and extra features, but those features weren't necessarilly important for everyone.Snotnarok said:I'd say this thing is going to be a disaster but Nintendo seems to be able to mostly avoid that. I wasn't a huge fan of 2 screens to begin with, and touch screens annoy me more but now 3D just buries it for me I've got zero interest in this besides Megaman Legends 3 is coming out for it.
Also, I don't know why ANY of you are planning on buying this the day it comes out, haven't you learned yet?
GBA, GBASP, GBA Micro, GBA SP+
DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL
Wait 3 days and there'll be a 3DsXP or something with bigger screens and a microwave built in.
Now, granted, the Game Boy Advance line of handhelds was preety evolutionary for the most part. The SP in particular was superior to the original Advance in every way, especially since it got rid of the requirement for 4 AA bateries by including a Lithium Ion one. But the Micro was already in many ways a tradeoff from the SP and which one you wanted depended on your preference. While it was more portable and featured a customizable faceplate, a backlit screen and a standard headphone jack (the SP required a special adapter to use headphone), it also sacrificed SP's larger screen size as well as GB/GBC backwards compatibility (plus, the SP+ that was released around the same time as the Micro also had a backlit screen).
With the DS line, the differences between various versions became even less crucial and more based on preference. For example, the only advantage the Lite had over the original DS was the slimmer form factor. While a more compact handheld is always nice, it isn't exactly the kind of upgrade that everyone would see a need for. Don't get me started on the DSi, which essentially sacrificed backwards GBA compatibility and cut the battery life for a camera, SD card slot and online functionality....a tradeoff that not everyone (especially many gamers) would be willing to make. While the DSi also has improved hardware specs, the fact that most game developers developed games for the entire DS line in mind makes that a rather moot point. The XL/LL model isn't even worth mentioning....it's just a DSi with a bigger screen size.
Simply put, it's not worth bothering yourself with whether or not a "better" version of the handheld might come out in two years or so, beacuse there is no guaruantee that it will include things you actually care about. So if someone is interested in obtaining the 3DS, they might as well buy it. Besides, if they ever grow interested in one of the later versions, they can always sell their original 3DS.
Either way what you gave me was a long winded opinion and why you're going to run out and buy a 3DS day one, if you're going to buy it you don't need my permission, go ahead. Personally I have better places to spend 300 dollars than on another device that costs more than a 360 or PS3, that's far too expensive.
Personally I think the GBA is a far better handheld than the DS and the 3DS, it was simple GEnesis/Super Nintendo style games and honestly I dont really like the two screens, I hate touch screen games and I don't like 3D so it's a waste for me.
I said the gaining permission bit because it really was just explaining why each handheld was worth it or not, which is subjective also I was teasing you. But what it comes down to is that there is a version later that is superior, usually the second one.Tom Phoenix said:Em....I never wrote any of this with the intention of "gaining your permission". My entire point was to refute your idea that every new handheld model is automatically superior to the previous one and you yourself have admitted that the DSi and Micro were hardly a "necessity". You can throw in the DSi XL in there as well. Yes, a larger sceen is nice, but far from a "mandatory" upgrade (at least compared to how the SP was).Snotnarok said:Thanks for the essay, but the next model is always better with the only exceptions being the DSi and the GBA Micro, the GBA SP was mandatory as upgrades go, because you couldn't see the god damn screen unless you were on the sun. The DS Lite was mandatory since the DS felt like a flimsy tiger electronic toy, and the screens might as well have been game and watch style they were so dark and cruddy. The DSiXL looks pretty awesome to me vs any of the DSs since it's got a nice bigger screen. Doesn't have a GBA adapter? That's a shame because I'd rather play on my GBA anyway.Tom Phoenix said:An important point you seem to be missing is that not every new version of a handheld was necessarily better from the previous one. Sure, there were improvements and extra features, but those features weren't necessarilly important for everyone.Snotnarok said:I'd say this thing is going to be a disaster but Nintendo seems to be able to mostly avoid that. I wasn't a huge fan of 2 screens to begin with, and touch screens annoy me more but now 3D just buries it for me I've got zero interest in this besides Megaman Legends 3 is coming out for it.
Also, I don't know why ANY of you are planning on buying this the day it comes out, haven't you learned yet?
GBA, GBASP, GBA Micro, GBA SP+
DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSiXL
Wait 3 days and there'll be a 3DsXP or something with bigger screens and a microwave built in.
Now, granted, the Game Boy Advance line of handhelds was preety evolutionary for the most part. The SP in particular was superior to the original Advance in every way, especially since it got rid of the requirement for 4 AA bateries by including a Lithium Ion one. But the Micro was already in many ways a tradeoff from the SP and which one you wanted depended on your preference. While it was more portable and featured a customizable faceplate, a backlit screen and a standard headphone jack (the SP required a special adapter to use headphone), it also sacrificed SP's larger screen size as well as GB/GBC backwards compatibility (plus, the SP+ that was released around the same time as the Micro also had a backlit screen).
With the DS line, the differences between various versions became even less crucial and more based on preference. For example, the only advantage the Lite had over the original DS was the slimmer form factor. While a more compact handheld is always nice, it isn't exactly the kind of upgrade that everyone would see a need for. Don't get me started on the DSi, which essentially sacrificed backwards GBA compatibility and cut the battery life for a camera, SD card slot and online functionality....a tradeoff that not everyone (especially many gamers) would be willing to make. While the DSi also has improved hardware specs, the fact that most game developers developed games for the entire DS line in mind makes that a rather moot point. The XL/LL model isn't even worth mentioning....it's just a DSi with a bigger screen size.
Simply put, it's not worth bothering yourself with whether or not a "better" version of the handheld might come out in two years or so, beacuse there is no guaruantee that it will include things you actually care about. So if someone is interested in obtaining the 3DS, they might as well buy it. Besides, if they ever grow interested in one of the later versions, they can always sell their original 3DS.
Either way what you gave me was a long winded opinion and why you're going to run out and buy a 3DS day one, if you're going to buy it you don't need my permission, go ahead. Personally I have better places to spend 300 dollars than on another device that costs more than a 360 or PS3, that's far too expensive.
Personally I think the GBA is a far better handheld than the DS and the 3DS, it was simple GEnesis/Super Nintendo style games and honestly I dont really like the two screens, I hate touch screen games and I don't like 3D so it's a waste for me.
Personally, I haven't decided whether or not I am going to buy it. While I cannot deny that I see great potential in the 3DS and that the software lineup is absolutely stellar, the steep price (which will likely be even steeper in Europe) puts me off somewhat. Plus, we still don't know whether or not it will be region-locked. If it does turn out to be region-locked, that would almost certainly be a deal-breaker for me, since I am an import gamer.
I absolutely agree with you that the Game Boy Advance was a fantastic handheld. I have a Micro and I love it to death; never regretted the purchase. But while I am also not crazy over the touch screen, I do think that some games benefit greatly from having two screens. Turn-based strategies and strategy RPGs, for example, become much easier to play, since the dual screens allow you to see more information at a glance as opposed to having to rely on various buttong "shortcuts".
As for the stereoscopic 3D, I can't really judge it until I have seen it with my own eyes. I do think it has potential to enhance modern games (if nothing else, I see more potential for 3D in gaming than I do in cinema), but I would have to see it for myself to know for certain.