Nintendo 3DS to Liberate Gamers from Evil Cartridges
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This reminds me of the days of "my friends" original modded Xbox w/ a 200gig hard drive. You could just rent games and copy them to the hard drive.
I just can't imagine how this won't come back to bite them squarely on the ass though. Even if they put DRM safeguards in place the fact you can copy games to your 3DS and play w/o the cartridge has already done a ton of work for the people looking to crack the 3DS. I would almost be willing to wager that if this feature makes it to launch the 3DS will be cracked before it's commercial release.
I just can't imagine how this won't come back to bite them squarely on the ass though. Even if they put DRM safeguards in place the fact you can copy games to your 3DS and play w/o the cartridge has already done a ton of work for the people looking to crack the 3DS. I would almost be willing to wager that if this feature makes it to launch the 3DS will be cracked before it's commercial release.
WANT WANT WANTJohn Funk said:
OT: In all seriousness, this thing looks great. I'll be buying it for sure.
Now all we need is the amount of memory this thing packs and its battery life, which is probably just a little strained by the higher resolution, glasses-less 3D screen. Though I do want to know how this'll work. So, I can rent a new game and install on the 3DS and have it forever for a fraction of the price? There's a catch here somewhere.
I don't know how intricate the R4 is, or how much fooling about one needs to do in order to utilize it, but I'm willing to bet that it requires at least a small amount of technical know-how to get it to work.John Funk said:
Nintendo incorporating this as a feature, and telling people how to do it (presuming there are no restrictions) means that even your average Joe with a DS is now on the honor system. I'm not so sure that said average Joe is worthy of such trust.
We'll have to wait to see the ramifications of such a system. Nintendo may be onto something here: until further notice, I shall have faith that they know what they are doing with this.
This is huge, I mean I've got an R4 for this very reason and having gone that far the temptation to just download games is intense. Some kind of sensible DRM could still be reasonable, perhaps you could require the original cartridge to uninstall it. That way space for about 15 games would still be unfeasibly awkward for casual piracy. It would still make game sharing more convenient than I think Nintendo would be happy with so I suspect this feature is going to be crippled in some way.John Funk said:
Actually, since Cartridges do in fact have the memory on them as well, wouldn't it be fairly simple to program something into them that only let's them install once?
Yeah, assuming they keep this as an option, I will fight through a crowd of people to get a 3DS.
I'm guessing that nintendo will attach some sort of DRM to each cartridge then? there's no way they'd be stupid enough to let every cartridge have unlimited downloads. i'm guess that it will be some sort of code system, where the game can be played on other systems after the initial install, but it can only be installed on one or two systems.
i'm sort of interested with how they're planning on doing this. if it's anything like the initial sony proposal for the ps3 to limit a single copy of a game to a single system, it will horribly fail. can't remember if that was ever official enough, but the rumor was bad enough to steer me away from the ps3 at launch.
i'm sort of interested with how they're planning on doing this. if it's anything like the initial sony proposal for the ps3 to limit a single copy of a game to a single system, it will horribly fail. can't remember if that was ever official enough, but the rumor was bad enough to steer me away from the ps3 at launch.
I'm willing to bet there's way more too it. Like with the PS3 installs cutting load time but still needing the disks to play and stuff, or a limit of a hand full of games or something like that. Or a time limit, which would bite teh big one for longer trips.theaceplaya said:
I want this.
Its sad how every now and again Nintendo likes to remind us how we are all it's bitches.
Its sad how every now and again Nintendo likes to remind us how we are all it's bitches.
I foresee there being a scratch code that comes with each cartridge, that allows for installation to only 1 unique console. The cartridge remains unlocked so if you lose your 3DS your games aren't bricked. So this would allow for at most 2 people playing the game simultaneously, which isn't all that bad.
To remedy the buy-and-return tactic, game stores could enact a policy that for a full refund you need to return it with an unscratched installation code. So if you want to just try and a game you can buy and return, but you can't install the game for free.
To remedy the buy-and-return tactic, game stores could enact a policy that for a full refund you need to return it with an unscratched installation code. So if you want to just try and a game you can buy and return, but you can't install the game for free.
Okay, what's the catch? This is all too many pros going on here.
Not to mention it would extend the life of your cartridges from constantly being swapped in and out. You gets your cartridges and can have them longer. This is a big win idea.Rainbowloid said:
If you are thinking of the PSPGo, then no. That doesn't use physical media, you download the games on it. So you have to depend on some wireless source, and have a few other limitations.Catalyst6 said:
I am still at a loss why people think Nintendo cares about what Apple does. Yes, Apple has made the iPod Touch, iPhone, and iPad. But all of those are good only for casual smalltime games and can't run what's being produced for handheld gaming consoles like the PSP and DS. It's Oranges to Apple-shaped Broccoli, really. Now if Nintendo decides to make a DS that doubles as a phone and pc-port...then we will know what the big N thinks of Apple.fix-the-spade said: