Nintendo Admits to Being Bad at Hardcore Games

duchaked

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perhaps one day I shall return to those series Nintendo games I grew up with...but today is not that day

not that anything new has ever beaten Mario Kart 64 =]
 

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And this is coming from the company that made the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series... Two series that successfully parodied the entire gaming industry with their own icon, with jokes that only the hardcore crowd could truly get (just look up screens of Paper Mario, there's jokes about how long an RPG should be excluding side-quests and about people complaining on forums about games they never played).

Go away, Nintendo. You're killing me here.
 

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Eatbrainz said:
Their shopping channel is so popular because it lets you play the older, better titles, pixel perfect.
wow i completely agree with this
 

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Macgyvercas said:
EDIT: And for the love of all things holy, BRING BACK DONKEY KONG!
Nononononononononononono! Do not bring back Donkey Kong, Rare was the only company that could make a truly amazing, without question Donkey Kong game. (The DKC Trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, Dk 64) :/
 

duchaked

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perhaps one day I shall return to those series Nintendo games I grew up with...but today is not that day

not that anything new has ever beaten Mario Kart 64 =]
 

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Mr.PlanetEater said:
Macgyvercas said:
EDIT: And for the love of all things holy, BRING BACK DONKEY KONG!
Nononononononononononono! Do not bring back Donkey Kong, Rare was the only company that could make a truly amazing, without question Donkey Kong game. (The DKC Trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, Dk 64) :/
So get Rare back into the mix. Come on, when Nintendo was teamed up with Rare, they were freakin' unstoppable!
 

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Say what they might, but I still like Nintendo. Also, "hardcore" games aren't just about what's rated M.
 

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Macgyvercas said:
Mr.PlanetEater said:
Macgyvercas said:
EDIT: And for the love of all things holy, BRING BACK DONKEY KONG!
Nononononononononononono! Do not bring back Donkey Kong, Rare was the only company that could make a truly amazing, without question Donkey Kong game. (The DKC Trilogy, Diddy Kong Racing, Dk 64) :/
So get Rare back into the mix. Come on, when Nintendo was teamed up with Rare, they were freakin' unstoppable!
Nonono! Don't do that mistake! I don't know exactly what happened to Rare, but something did happen and they're not exactly what they used to be any more.
 

Beefjerky

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Who cares really? Nintendo makes great games and I love most of them.

I am a "hardcore gamer" and I mean HARDCORE. But still, I'd play a Mario game over Modern Warfare 2 or Bioshock 2 anyday.
 

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Woodsey said:
Twad said:
THey dont make hardcore games.

Look where nintendo is now, top sellers.

So.. is it a problem? I dont think so.
Not for them it isn't.

I'm sure a few gamers might have a problem with it.
Soooo buy a 360 or PS3 as well? I have a 360 for my hardcore gaming and my wii for fun multiplayer stuff
 

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Yea cause 'hardcore' means it has to have loads of blood and swearing instead of challenging, fun and innovative gameplay seen in titles like Fire Emblem, Zelda, Mario, Metroid etc. These games are all casual and appeal to people who don't play games
 

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Who cares if they cant make hardcore games. They make fun games. Ultimately thats the point. Although i would love to see them have a go at it, i think they could pull something very interesting out of their very colorful bag of tricks.
 

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I'll always know that Nintendo have some of my favorite games on their console, the n64 was a beast for games back in the day Goldeneye, FZX and loads of other awesome ones.
 

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What a shocker!
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. You have my support Nintendo.
*choking back tears*
 

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experiment0789 said:
First I want to congratulate Nintendo for FINILY admitting this; of course this is like a(an) alcoholic telling you that he/she is not drunk when you are both at a bar,at 1:00pm,Its now 8:00pm, and there is enough empty glass bottles at/around your table that you could make a stain glass window.
So lets give Nin?ten...do a @#$#en medal for all there??what ever.
Now that?s out of the way, I agree with Woodsey some gamers might have a problem with that
(I know I do). I don?t know if I?m a hardcore gamer, but I?m getting a little deterred from anything Nintendo. It?s like what Yahtzee say's a in his Left-4-Dead-2 and New-Super-Mario-Bros-Wii video (from 2:52 on), ?WHAT REALLY HAS BEEN THE POINT OF THE LAST 15 YEARS IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE MARIO 3 AGAIN COMPLETE WITH CHERPY NEW SOUND EFFECTS STILL INTACT,IN WHAT IS SOUPOSALLY A NEXT-GEN CONCEL NO LESS?
There really needs to be a "Yahtzee's Law", which is basically Godwin's Law only it brings Yahtzee into an argument. First off, he is wrong about calling Mario 3 and NSMBW the same exact game. They are not. The only things the two have in common is the base powerups (mushroom, fire flower, star), the Koopalings as world bosses, and the map screen mechanics. To imply otherwise is to say that Super Mario 3 had any of the following: Yoshi, Wall Kicks, Ground Pounds, Four-Player Simultaneous co-op, A penguin suit. Ice Flowers, Helicopter Suit powerups, Occasional Airship Levels instead of one every world, and many many many many other differences that separate it from Mario 3. Secondly, to parrot what he says without having any sort of other information on the subject is just lazy. I'm not saying it's bad to agree with Yahtzee but I am saying it's bad to agree with such an obvious fanboy statement that he is wont to make whenever the Wii is being talked about. I can directly attack this statement because I actually played the game to completion, found it exponentially harder than Mario 3 (which I have beaten in one sitting before without continues) and therefore can easily say the two games are different.

Where was I going with this? Oh nowhere, except to point out that the point of "re-releasing Mario 3" was to make money, and money it did make. Even though it's a lot harder than most typical Mario platformers (there is a reason that there's a term called "Nintendo Hard" after all) Even though it still isn't the same thing as Mario 3 no matter how badly someone may try to tell you it is. Just like the point of any sequel that adds to existing base concepts is made to cash in and turn a profit. There are bad sequels and good sequels, and New Super Mario Bros. Wii definetely falls into the latter category, in my opinion. I don't see why Mario needs to be anything other than a platformer in most iterations. After all the adventure game forays with Mario were pretty bad other than Luigi's Mansion

And once again this topic continues to point out that these are the true definitions of Hardcore and Casual now

Hardcore: What a gamer likes
Casual: What they don't like.

And that is not how either of those words should be used.
 

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I see Nintendo as a gamers training company. All my friends grew up on Nintendo games and it created staunch hard core gamers who have all moved on too valve games at this point. Who cares if the Zelda games are all the bloody same what matters is that due to their broad circulation Nintendo continues to create hard core gamers to keep our way of life alive. Dramatics aside Nintendo doesn't need to be hard core they need only to create them