Nintendo Lays To Rest Zelda Timeline Mystery
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Wait, if I suggest something to the writer he won't care!? What!? I'm one fan out of thousands, maybe millions, and they wouldn't care!? :O Outrageous!!Halfbreed13 said:I never even knew that there was supposedly a timeline. I just assumed that through each universe Link "The hero in the green cap" was a different person.
Still, you don't exactly tell the writers what to do with their story
They pulled the FF card on us...
I thought it was Ocarina of time then Majora's mask, then most of the other games, and the latest in terms of timeline being Windwaker since it is in game declared to not be the same Link and take place in origional Link's Hyrule's future.
I don't usually like to do this, but for my own sake (since it wont affect others)
*puts fingers in ears and starts screaming "LALALALALALACANTHEARYOULALALALALA"*
I thought it was Ocarina of time then Majora's mask, then most of the other games, and the latest in terms of timeline being Windwaker since it is in game declared to not be the same Link and take place in origional Link's Hyrule's future.
I don't usually like to do this, but for my own sake (since it wont affect others)
*puts fingers in ears and starts screaming "LALALALALALACANTHEARYOULALALALALA"*
AS screwed up as MGS's? MAH DEAR BOY, THAT IS AN UNDER STATEMENT. Off hand I cannot think of a single franchise that breaks its own canon more thoroughly than LoZ. Put like that, I would say it is a trait to be cherished by its creators. Plus all of those fan-made theories make my head hurt.hopeneverdies said:
From reading the posts on the first half of this thread I don't think a lot of people even watched the damn video.
I think it was incredibly well thought out, and sure the guy was a bit cocky, but I would be too if I was clever enough to deduce that.
The petition is stupid however if he had left it at Nintendo's response, Nintendo would have gone out looking like a fan-ignoring company.
I think it was incredibly well thought out, and sure the guy was a bit cocky, but I would be too if I was clever enough to deduce that.
The petition is stupid however if he had left it at Nintendo's response, Nintendo would have gone out looking like a fan-ignoring company.
So now a standardised PR letter referencing what Aonuma said when Wind Waker was released ("No timeline! Bleh!"), and who then later contradicted himself when Twilight Princess was released ("There IS a timeline! Bleh" because things changed and they had to find a specific place to fit TP in, according to him) suddenly becomes fact. I don't buy it until it comes straight from the horse's mouth, in the present day. I don't care what any such timeline is, but to dismiss the notion of any chronology whatsoever between the games is just stupid, considering both the games and Miyamoto/Aonuma themselves have suggested elements of continuity (around the time of TP, and also mentioned that a written timeline exists on one of their PCs). Either way, it's a cop out, whether it's by PR or them. They talk about developing the story aspect of the games more, but that just seems pointless when nothing is connected and gives them an excuse to exploit using Ganon yet again, while TP sets it up for Ganondorf being subdued for awhile (if not forever).
And as for the "Link is different except where otherwise noted." We already knew that, and again the games themselves made this clear.
And as for the "Link is different except where otherwise noted." We already knew that, and again the games themselves made this clear.
That's rich! I always felt those timelines took things to far. But then again, I would've liked to see it confirmed, which would've shown that Nintendo can create deeper stuff, not just limited to comedic characters and flimsy plotlines.
Eh... You've obviously never heard of one of their rather more obscure titles they released in Japan years ago. (Unfortunately, my research skills have let me down, and I can't remember what it was called)owner276 said:I'm pretty sure Nintendo would rather kill themselves than even hint about sex in one of their games and lose their precious "family friendly" image...they need that image to attract droves of small children, and, consequentely, pedophiles to buy their systems and make record sales numbers so that Miyamoto can afford to buy another whorehouse to go on his 5 mile long, 30 story yacht...maybe I'm just bitter that I don't have a yacht...la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Aside from which, there's Super Mario Sunshine...
What's that you say? How does that imply sex?
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Well, Bowser Jr. appears to be under the delusion that Princess Peach is his mother...
>.< - I think that kind of speaks for itself.
They won't outright say certain things, but they certainly can imply them. XD.
That was always my thought on the subject. It is interesting to view the theories proposed by video game nerds with too much time on their hands, but it seems they are all for not. Also, creating a petition to force Nintendo to create a timeline is the dumbest thing I've ever heard (today).
I can understand Nintendo's arguement, that says to me, "They're just games. Have fun."
But what's the point of being a fan if you can't have the water-cooler discussions/arguments? If anything, Nintendo should give the guy a pat on the back and say, "Nice work. We're glad you like our game. Here's a T-shirt."
But what's the point of being a fan if you can't have the water-cooler discussions/arguments? If anything, Nintendo should give the guy a pat on the back and say, "Nice work. We're glad you like our game. Here's a T-shirt."
Truthfully I'm only casually into Zelda and it shocks me that this much time was spent on people coming up with a continuity when it seemed obvious that they were all stand alone stories using a generic protaganist. I mean even the back story in the various "instruction books" made this fairly clear.
Trying to reconcile the timeline and the way things play out seems insane given how most of the games start and the way supporting cast (like say Zelda herself) are handled.
I think Nintendo could have saved themselves an upcoming headache of nerd-rage had it occured to them to use some differant (but similar) protaganists rather than recycling the same green clad elf for a bajillion incarnations.
Final Fantasy managed to use the same name and a lot of the same characters without causing this kind of thing (as far as I've seen) by mixing up the protaganists and giving the world a differant name most of the time.... admittedly though they are starting to cause themselves some problems with the whole Ivalice thing though (but that is fairly recent comparitively speaking, and I mostly try and avoid Ivalice-lore arguements).
There are many cases where I cheer for the fans and think that companies are out of line... but really... I can't side with the fans here.
Trying to reconcile the timeline and the way things play out seems insane given how most of the games start and the way supporting cast (like say Zelda herself) are handled.
I think Nintendo could have saved themselves an upcoming headache of nerd-rage had it occured to them to use some differant (but similar) protaganists rather than recycling the same green clad elf for a bajillion incarnations.
Final Fantasy managed to use the same name and a lot of the same characters without causing this kind of thing (as far as I've seen) by mixing up the protaganists and giving the world a differant name most of the time.... admittedly though they are starting to cause themselves some problems with the whole Ivalice thing though (but that is fairly recent comparitively speaking, and I mostly try and avoid Ivalice-lore arguements).
There are many cases where I cheer for the fans and think that companies are out of line... but really... I can't side with the fans here.
i didnt get into the whole zelda thing but my friends have and they have said its the same almost every time just zelda gets older
How can the Zelda games be directly linked to each other?
- Windwaker starts with a young Link on an Island and Hyrule is found much later in the game as a city below the surface of the water.
- Ocarina of Time starts with a young Link living with Elves and there is no ocean whatsoever.
For me, it was very clear from the start that the Link-character is just a normal boy chosen by faint to become a hero.
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Hey, but even if I was completely wrong... a petition about something like that... get a life my friend.
- Windwaker starts with a young Link on an Island and Hyrule is found much later in the game as a city below the surface of the water.
- Ocarina of Time starts with a young Link living with Elves and there is no ocean whatsoever.
For me, it was very clear from the start that the Link-character is just a normal boy chosen by faint to become a hero.
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Hey, but even if I was completely wrong... a petition about something like that... get a life my friend.
I didn't really care about the timeline, only the diffrent adventures Link went on. But ocarinahero10 explained the timeline perfectly, so nintendo should acknowledge it.
I just some it up with are they not all called 'Legend' ... meaning story, not fact. Different stories, with one protagonist hero. I think personally, I haven't played ALL of them, but enough ... it's better left as individual games, with seperate stories.